Jumbo - QuickStep merger

[Andre]

I would be happy to take Cattaneo, Cavagna, Lampaert as my TDF doms. But there is a limit to how many of these workhorses you can utilize.

I don't understand why the merger isn't happening with Lotto. Those teams are much closer in spirit and they already swap sponsors all the time. Just keep the top 5 lotto riders and merge into the Wolfpack, and you might actually have enough firepower to challenge in the classics.

I see what you mean but they already challenge the classics pretty well. There is also Van Wilder and Bagioli

 

[pastronef]

I would be happy to take Cattaneo, Cavagna, Lampaert as my TDF doms. But there is a limit to how many of these workhorses you can utilize.

I don't understand why the merger isn't happening with Lotto. Those teams are much closer in spirit and they already swap sponsors all the time. Just keep the top 5 lotto riders and merge into the Wolfpack, and you might actually have enough firepower to challenge in the classics.

because Plugge probably does not want to get the unstable Lotto team, Ewan, Heulot and co.
Lefevere and Plugge are more ruthless and lead 2 of the best teams in the WT. and probably Lotto wouldn't be pumping as much money as Soudal

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

I think @proffate indicates Soudal-QuickStep should merge with Lotto-Dstny, given he speaks about a merge into Wolfpack.

 

[pastronef]

also, the "merge" or takeover idea was started by Plugge/Jumbo who are in need of a backer (and knew Lefevere-Bakala wanted to sell) and Lotto is probably the last team they thought about

 

[Lexman]

I see what you mean but they already challenge the classics pretty well. There is also Van Wilder and Bagioli

Bagioli is leaving to Trek or Jayco can't remember...

 

[Monte Serra]

Richard Plugge and Riejanne Markus met with Apple CEO Tim Cook. Fueling rumours that Jumbo-Visma might be able to secure some serious funding for the team, without having to merge with SQS.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1706363795478634683

View: https://twitter.com/tim_cook/status/1706363795478634683

 

[Berniece]

Richard Plugge and Riejanne Markus met with Apple CEO Tim Cook. Fueling rumours that Jumbo-Visma might be able to secure some serious funding for the team, without having to merge with SQS.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1706363795478634683

View: https://twitter.com/tim_cook/status/1706363795478634683

Lol, definitely not apple

 

[CyclistAbi]

One angle we haven't discussed yet is. If there is not much love in between JV and Remco. According to Thomas insights. The remaining question is does Remco love Ineos and does Thomas love Remco.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Based on all we know i am rather sure that this merger will happen.

 

[Berniece]

The remaining question is does Remco love Ineos and does Thomas love Remco.

Yes

 

[danielovichdk2]

None of them can up and leave if they don't like the situation, unless they have a clause in their contracts. If they want out they would have to agree a fee with JV to release them.

I don't know their contracts and I doubt you do either?

But if you have a contract with X and X becomes Y, then legally it seems Y is a new entity. I am reaching here, but you catch my drift I think.

🙃😀

 

[joseph89]

Does remco love ineos money more than getting the Jumbo-Visma upgrade?

 

[ManicJack]

Based on all we know i am rather sure that this merger will happen.

You'll have more to base your guesses on when the UCI publishes the list of license applicants for 2024. Should be early October?? Do they publish a list of those needing an extension?

 

[joseph89]

I don't know their contracts and I doubt you do either?

But if you have a contract with X and X becomes Y, then legally it seems Y is a new entity. I am reaching here, but you catch my drift I think.

🙃😀

Never said i did.

either way you are correct and only riders on team X becoming Y would be free to leave.

But just like how intermarche found a loophole to buy CCC's license when they folded, JV could find a loophole too

 

[Gigs_98]

Richard Plugge and Riejanne Markus met with Apple CEO Tim Cook. Fueling rumours that Jumbo-Visma might be able to secure some serious funding for the team, without having to merge with SQS.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1706363795478634683

View: https://twitter.com/tim_cook/status/1706363795478634683

You might like e-bikes, but you aren't ready for iBikes

 

[Oldermanish]

To keep them from riding for the competition...

Wasn't that the old Discovery model? It worked until Contador stared down Lance, thankfully.

 

[CyclistAbi]

You'll have more to base your guesses on when the UCI publishes the list of license applicants for 2024. Should be early October?? Do they publish a list of those needing an extension?

It's just that if you put together on what was going on behind the scenes, then you can be rather sure something will happen. As on why it's more likely, for the merger to happen with JV, well, it just makes sense for all parties involved. As for individual riders. Here the situation is a bit moot and hard to predict the final outcome. We'll see.

 

[LesDiablesRouges]

I doubt INEOS will sign anyone for big money while its oligarch owner is still dreaming of buying Man Utd - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...united-bid-to-revive-takeover-hopes#xj4y7vzkg

A contract for Remco would be loose change in a couch for someone like Ratcliffe.

 

[T-Nielsen]

This could be terrible for the JV riders. They are on the edge of tech and training. Bringing in anyone from SQ would water down the backstage talent.

 

[samhocking]

A contract for Remco would be loose change in a couch for someone like Ratcliffe.

Exactly, even taking out the fact what Ineos the company itself is worth, Ratcliffe's wealth alone equates the team cost as 0.2% of what he is worth each year. It's less investment financially than the average working man buying his xmas presents each year!

 

[Aimar16]

A contract for Remco would be loose change in a couch for someone like Ratcliffe.

Irrelevant, as it's pretty clear that the dude is not spending anything on the cycling team as he is trying to buy ManUtd for what could cost more than €7 billion (although it's clear the guy has no money to do so).

 

[ice&fire]

Irrelevant, as it's pretty clear that the dude is not spending anything on the cycling team as he is trying to buy ManUtd for what could cost more than €7 billion (although it's clear the guy has no money to do so).

He could boost his finances buying Remco for what is worth and selling him for what his fans say he's worth.

 

[joseph89]

If the merger goes through who benefits from the Jumbo performance package upgrade?

Asgreen is nearly back to his best and would be next level.

Landa would be pure flames but he would need to go rogue.

 

[EddyMazzoleni]

Van Wilder if he stays

 

[Wyndbrook]

Irrelevant, as it's pretty clear that the dude is not spending anything on the cycling team as he is trying to buy ManUtd for what could cost more than €7 billion (although it's clear the guy has no money to do so).

Who needs money to buy an English football club, current owners did not, just loaded it with debt.