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RedheadDane said:
So, you're saying that "everybody" knew... except for the people who should have been the first to know? Yeah... that's worse!
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tobydawq said:
No I am not.

I am saying that everybody knew that "something" was going on. Lots of different teams have been involved in the rumours.
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In an interview three weeks ago, Jens Reynders mentioned that it was difficult to come to an agreement with a team, as most were cautious because of the the Ineos-QS merger rumours. So no idea if anyone really knew that Jumbo was going to be involved, but there was enough reason to leave some spots open.
 
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Interesting comment from Pete Kennaugh on todays podcast. Said he was at a gig with Bessel Kok who is part of the 80% ownership of Quickstep team along with Bakala. Extremely wealthy. Pete said the discussion was around them and other teams creating a new cycling league along the lines of motogp consisting of super teams and every rider races every race. This might well explain this merger being preparation for that happening. Quite the twist!
 
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As for plot twists, the guy who had the scoop that Amazon will be a new sponsor says he's quite sure that they'll contribute 15 million a year, Visma's amount will increase to 20 million, and the name will be Visma-Amazon. This guy is known to be not very factually accurate, but on the other hand, it seems at least the Amazon sponsorship is true.

www.indeleiderstrui.nl

Sportmarketeer Chris Woerts: 'Jumbo-Visma wordt Visma-Amazon, Amerikaanse gigant legt 15 miljoen in'

Nieuwe informatie aan de horizon als het gaat om Jumbo-Visma
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We all thought Specialized met with Jumbo Visma to talk about merger details.

What if the meeting was not only to talk about that but to talk about Roglic switching teams? Real plot twist would be him appearing at Bora.

Specialized will sponsor one less team after leaving Total and will lose one marquee rider in Sagan.
 
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The worst type of person. I know something but I won’t tell you, but I want you to know that I know.

Those people can die
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Don't know about "die," but it's just such a lame cop out. Of course there is more coming to this story...

The Apple/Amazon rumors, if true, would certainly mean that Visma doesn't need Soudal, right? I mean, Apple Visma or Amazon Visma should be more than enough. So in the end, maybe just smoke without fire? That said, I'd think very carefully if I was Apple or Amazon whether cycling is a sport I want to get involved with...one "incident" and you've got a major PR headache.
 
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samhocking said:
Interesting comment from Pete Kennaugh on todays podcast. Said he was at a gig with Bessel Kok who is part of the 80% ownership of Quickstep team along with Bakala. Extremely wealthy. Pete said the discussion was around them and other teams creating a new cycling league along the lines of motogp consisting of super teams and every rider races every race. This might well explain this merger being preparation for that happening. Quite the twist!
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How can anybody think that would be a good idea?
 
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samhocking said:
Interesting comment from Pete Kennaugh on todays podcast. Said he was at a gig with Bessel Kok who is part of the 80% ownership of Quickstep team along with Bakala. Extremely wealthy. Pete said the discussion was around them and other teams creating a new cycling league along the lines of motogp consisting of super teams and every rider races every race. This might well explain this merger being preparation for that happening. Quite the twist!
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The "every rider rides every race" can only be done if they reduce the number of races that count as "every race". I can't see GT riders doing more than two GTs, more than three 1-week stage races and a few non-hilly 1-day races.
 
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Don't know about "die," but it's just such a lame cop out. Of course there is more coming to this story...

The Apple/Amazon rumors, if true, would certainly mean that Visma doesn't need Soudal, right? I mean, Apple Visma or Amazon Visma should be more than enough. So in the end, maybe just smoke without fire? That said, I'd think very carefully if I was Apple or Amazon whether cycling is a sport I want to get involved with...one "incident" and you've got a major PR headache.
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Are there Apple rumours? Yes, Plugge and Riejanne Markus met with Tim Cook as part of his PR tour around Europe, but that's it, I think? The Amazon rumours seem more credible. Also because Jumbo-Visma already work with Amazon.

I don't know if a doping case will really hurt Amazon's brand, just like I don't think anyone blames Visma for the Hessmann story. And let's say the story that Amazon will contribute 15 million is true... that's just pocket money for Jeff Bezos. Cycling is such a cheap sport to get involved in. I'd say there's more upside than downside.
 
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