JV ......Is "yes" so hard to say?

[BroDeal]

JV or Barton Fink?? You decide.

 

[Digger]

JV reminds me of the hitchhiker in There's Something About Mary - the guy who had the body bag in the front seat. Harland Williams.

 

[Race Radio]

What is Pee Wee doing with that chick who rode the Giro?

 

[shouldawouldacoulda]

Home much luggage does JV bring

Whenever I see pics of JV I always wonder how much luggage the guy brings on a trip. He must have the highest baggage overcharges for anyone on the team...

 

[Winterfold]

JV doesn't say "Yes, I was doped", because that would undoubtedly lead to negative media coverage from the typical "cycling is the only sport where people dope"- journalists. Instead, what JV does here, is that he says a clear "yes" to the cycling supporters and fans (you don't have to be very smart to realise what he implies), while at the same time, he is stopping the media from making any interesting headlines about it by not admitting it openly.

Why is this so hard for seemingly intelligent people to comprehend?

Ideology? Sometimes aspects of this forum do seem more like a moral crusade than a pragmatic approach to reducing doping in the sport.

Still, in the meantime we can ***** about his clothes like a bunch of fags.

 

[Polish]

Still, in the meantime we can ***** about his clothes like a bunch of fags.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.
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[Winterfold]

I agree that *****ing about a dude's clothes with a bunch of fags is a great way to pass the time.

But in this case it seems to be because the argument is, although ideologically sound, ultimately impractical, people have decided the play the man rather than the ball.

That said, JV definitely seems like a Brit trapped in a US passport

 

[Oldman]

Why is this so hard for seemingly intelligent people to comprehend?

Ideology? Sometimes aspects of this forum do seem more like a moral crusade than a pragmatic approach to reducing doping in the sport.

Still, in the meantime we can ***** about his clothes like a bunch of fags.

Heyheyhey HEY! Sometimes we all resemble that remark. You don't have any embarrassing sartorial choices in your background? Although JV seems to take it to a Daliesque level.

 

[flicker]

JV or Barton Fink?? You decide.

JV must have learned to dress from some of the pro chefs I know. Absolutley nothing wrong with that. The guys I know who are chefs are not fags. Besides I have nothing against homosexuals, as long as they are out in the open about it.

 

[sartain]

Garmin are using SRAM this season, what's LA stake in them 15%???

he could have used campag or shimano (like this year) and not given a penny or exposure to LA but no SRAM it is? does that not tell you what JV is about?

doesn't say much for cervelo either

This is a spot on point you raise, and one I have questioned myself. Say a lot IMO.

 

[Skandar Akbar]

stock up

When I am tired of being tired I drink FRS. Just a tip from the fat and sassy Lord Armstrong.

In that case you had better stock up...... that stuff will be history soon.

 

[sartain]

If you've got to work so hard to create a 'unique image', it probably means that you're either making up for something or distracting from something.

Doofus...

Does this comment apply to LA as well?

 

[frenchfry]

Does this comment apply to LA as well?

Lance's image as a world class pr!*k is hardly unique.

 

[BroDeal]

Interesting interview with Anthony Tan. Among other things, he discusses the Vaughters.

http://nyvelocity.com/content/interviews/2010/anthony-tan-interview

 

[_yngve_]

Garmin are using SRAM this season, what's LA stake in them 15%???

he could have used campag or shimano (like this year) and not given a penny or exposure to LA but no SRAM it is? does that not tell you what JV is about?

doesn't say much for cervelo either

I'd wager LA's stake is < 5%. If Lehman paid $200MM for 40%, and LA made a "meaningful passive investment...said to be in the millions of dollars", we're probably talking low single digits.

But really, at the end of the day, equipment sponsorships are about what the manufacturer brings to the table (in terms of gear, support, and $$), not who has a minor stake in the company.

 

[Benotti69]

I'd wager LA's stake is < 5%. If Lehman paid $200MM for 40%, and LA made a "meaningful passive investment...said to be in the millions of dollars", we're probably talking low single digits.

But really, at the end of the day, equipment sponsorships are about what the manufacturer brings to the table (in terms of gear, support, and $$), not who has a minor stake in the company.

at the end of day there are 2 other manufacturers without alining your team to someone, no matter how small, who is the biggest fraud in the sport!

 

[Dr. Maserati]

at the end of day there are 2 other manufacturers without alining your team to someone, no matter how small, who is the biggest fraud in the sport!

I don't think JV had much choice about accepting SRAM.
According to Gerard Vroomen's blog they were already under contract - so by accepting Cervelo JV was also accepting SRAM.

Most of the sponsors have also found homes elsewhere. Some at Garmin, some elsewhere. There we tried to also help as much as possible, of course for those who were under contract with CTT for next year as we were obliged to, but also for those who were not as we really get along well with our industry partners and want them to be successful, with or without Cervelo.

 

[BotanyBay]

I don't think JV had much choice about accepting SRAM.
According to Gerard Vroomen's blog they were already under contract - so by accepting Cervelo JV was also accepting SRAM.

You'd be amazed how much power and influence a minority partner has in a company when he's also a name-brand celebrity. Lance has pull in this one.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Interesting interview with Anthony Tan. Among other things, he discusses the Vaughters.

http://nyvelocity.com/content/interviews/2010/anthony-tan-interview

It is good to get Tan's perspective on this, I thought this was a fair and accurate summary:

Having sat on what he's said I accept his position—I even would goes as far to say I respect it—but still do not fully agree with it.

 

[fatandfast]

In that case you had better stock up...... that stuff will be history soon.

FRS sells for between 12-20 dollars. The vitamin and mineral slammed starburst chews sell for the same price. It's made from apple juice castoff products. Not only will it stiffen your dtool it will make everybody involved a multi millionaire this pennies to make product will be around for a long time. Gatorade has taught everybody to add or delete water and sugar from your product and rename the same thing and increase your product line by 50%. Sugar water sold for dollars instead of pennies. Brilliant. Lance is the master ,colored rubber bands and koolaide..I love the guy. Good luck on the SRAM..nobody was buying Sachs..so repaint it and remarket it..put it on enough bikes that even if it doesn't work perfectly 100's of pro world wide will praise it while they cash their pay check.

 

[Race Radio]

Funny line from Tam

I especially fear Levi will punch me in the shins

 

[Semper Fidelis]

You'd be amazed how much power and influence a minority partner has in a company when he's also a name-brand celebrity. Lance has pull in this one.

Yes very true. SRAM will use him for what it is worth until the wheels fall off.