JV talks, sort of

[I Love To Dope]

Is this guy mad and boring 24/7?

 

[blackcat]

Re:

Hey JV, why did MPCC not kick out Astana after finding out it had a team doping program?

What's that? You would all look like hypocrites...............ta.

anti-doping is not anti performance enhancing drugs. it is a simulcrum of anti-doping and successfully communicating you are against performance enhancing drugs, and staying within the thresholds of the athlete bio passport.

The central europe teams, CCCPolsat, and the eastern Europe teams, Astana, Katusha, have still not got their heads around this puritan theory of anti-doping. They can't see the difference. Bernays is not their mentor.

 

[Benotti69]

JV is too busy being a pervert these days photographing lady photographers bottoms too see any doping at the TdF....crazy adaptive perversion!

https://twitter.com/Vaughters/status/620230725489430532

 

[BYOP88]

Re:

JV is too busy being a pervert these days photographing lady photographers bottoms too see any doping at the TdF....crazy adaptive perversion!

https://twitter.com/Vaughters/status/620230725489430532

Such a crazy guy!!!

 

[Benotti69]

Hey JV, See anything today that raised your anti doping stance from its slumber? Sky 1st(Froome), 2nd(Porte) and 6th(Thomas) although Thomas was told to stay behind Piti so who knows he could've finished 4th or 5th!!!!!!

Sky with all this crazy adaptive physiology at their finger tips...........well it's just.........crazy..........chin chin

edit

thanks for your quick reply.

Jonathan Vaughters ‏@Vaughters 1m
Well..... Hmmmmm... Not much to say.

yeah i thought so.......and yet Ryder did so well at the Giro.........hmmmm

 

[Benotti69]

Hey JV how about suing the UCI for breaking their rules, loss of income and granting Sky (Tour Racing Ltd) a licence while owning a Betting outfit?

Sky are paying riders via Tour Racing Ltd and taking bets via Sky Bet on those riders and their rivals.

Insider knowledge. Bet some are making a small to big fortune on bets.

http://www.stickybottle.com/blogs/the-gambling-links-uci-and-team-sky-must-finally-confront/

 

[Night Rider]

Re:

Hey JV how about suing the UCI for breaking their rules, loss of income and granting Sky (Tour Racing Ltd) a licence while owning a Betting outfit?

Sky are paying riders via Tour Racing Ltd and taking bets via Sky Bet on those riders and their rivals.

Insider knowledge. Bet some are making a small to big fortune on bets.

http://www.stickybottle.com/blogs/the-gambling-links-uci-and-team-sky-must-finally-confront/

You already know that article by stickybottle is factually incorrect, you replied to the post.

The blogger and the legal he used have made an interpretation error, I have quoted the full rule below mainly because I think he should also have mentioned the comparison to the Tour de France organisers.

Firstly, FWIW I think the lawyer has taken an incorrect interpretation. The rule applies to the license holder (the organisation "subject to the UCI regulations") "directly or indirectly" placing a bet, directly is quite obvious, indirect would be say the manager of Tour Racing Limited's wife or brother placing a bet on a race where is riders were involved for him.

It's a stretch to say "indirectly" is a shareholder of the organisation to the UCI regulations may also not have shareholdings in a company involved in gambling or any other permutation, I dont think that's the intent of the rule.

Secondly, Why did he crop the rule? Why did he not mention the Tour de France organisers are directly involved in gambling receiving a percentage share of the revenue? That example is better than the Unibet example.

"1.2.030 Anyone subject to the UCI regulations may not be involved directly or indirectly in the
organisation of bets on cycling competitions, under penalty of a suspension of between
8 days and one year and/or a fine of CHF 2,000 to 200,000.

In addition, if an organiser is involved, any competition organized by him may be
excluded from the calendar for one year.
(text modified on 1.01.00; 1.01.05)."

 

[Benotti69]

Jv asked Dan Martin's weight by Vayer........

Antoine VAYER ‏@festinaboy 13 hours ago
@Vaughters do you know @DanMartin86 weight ?

Jonathan Vaughters ‏@Vaughters 5 hours ago

@festinaboy @DanMartin86 Yes, 97kgs.

transparency...............

 

[BYOP88]

Re:

Jv asked Dan Martin's weight by Vayer........

Antoine VAYER ‏@festinaboy 13 hours ago
@Vaughters do you know @DanMartin86 weight ?

Jonathan Vaughters ‏@Vaughters 5 hours ago

@festinaboy @DanMartin86 Yes, 97kgs.

transparency...............

Well it is Vaughters.

 

[gooner]

Re:

Jv asked Dan Martin's weight by Vayer........

Antoine VAYER ‏@festinaboy 13 hours ago
@Vaughters do you know @DanMartin86 weight ?

Jonathan Vaughters ‏@Vaughters 5 hours ago

@festinaboy @DanMartin86 Yes, 97kgs.

transparency...............

That's the answer a guy like him deserves.

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Re:

Jv asked Dan Martin's weight by Vayer........

Antoine VAYER ‏@festinaboy 13 hours ago
@Vaughters do you know @DanMartin86 weight ?

Jonathan Vaughters ‏@Vaughters 5 hours ago

@festinaboy @DanMartin86 Yes, 97kgs.

transparency...............

That's the answer a guy like him deserves.

there are more than just Vayer who would like to know. But JV as ever, selling snakeoil.

 

[BYOP88]

Re: Re:

Jv asked Dan Martin's weight by Vayer........

Antoine VAYER ‏@festinaboy 13 hours ago
@Vaughters do you know @DanMartin86 weight ?

Jonathan Vaughters ‏@Vaughters 5 hours ago

@festinaboy @DanMartin86 Yes, 97kgs.

transparency...............

That's the answer a guy like him deserves.

I'd bet if someone like, ammattipyöräily asked, Vaughters would give the same 'funny' answer.

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Re:

Jv asked Dan Martin's weight by Vayer........

Antoine VAYER ‏@festinaboy 13 hours ago
@Vaughters do you know @DanMartin86 weight ?

Jonathan Vaughters ‏@Vaughters 5 hours ago

@festinaboy @DanMartin86 Yes, 97kgs.

transparency...............

That's the answer a guy like him deserves.

I'd bet if someone like, ammattipyöräily asked, Vaughters would give the same 'funny' answer.

JV finally has tuned into the circus, aka pro cycling..........he got with the program.

 

[gooner]

Re: Re:

Jv asked Dan Martin's weight by Vayer........

Antoine VAYER ‏@festinaboy 13 hours ago
@Vaughters do you know @DanMartin86 weight ?

Jonathan Vaughters ‏@Vaughters 5 hours ago

@festinaboy @DanMartin86 Yes, 97kgs.

transparency...............

That's the answer a guy like him deserves.

I'd bet if someone like, ammattipyöräily asked, Vaughters would give the same 'funny' answer.

Take it whatever you want(seen that tweet) but I happily engage with others, just not you.

 

[sniper]

Re:

Jv asked Dan Martin's weight by Vayer........

Antoine VAYER ‏@festinaboy 13 hours ago
@Vaughters do you know @DanMartin86 weight ?

Jonathan Vaughters ‏@Vaughters 5 hours ago

@festinaboy @DanMartin86 Yes, 97kgs.

transparency...............

Dan is dodgy and Vaughter's attempted sarcasm confirms it.

 

[sniper]

Re: Re:

Jv asked Dan Martin's weight by Vayer........

Antoine VAYER ‏@festinaboy 13 hours ago
@Vaughters do you know @DanMartin86 weight ?

Jonathan Vaughters ‏@Vaughters 5 hours ago

@festinaboy @DanMartin86 Yes, 97kgs.

transparency...............

That's the answer a guy like him deserves.

I'd bet if someone like, ammattipyöräily asked, Vaughters would give the same 'funny' answer.

Take it whatever you want(seen that tweet) but I happily engage with others, just not you.

ball, not man.

 

[gooner]

Didn't Vaughters hand over any stuff to ammatt or veloclinic before?

 

[BYOP88]

Re: Re:

Take it whatever you want(seen that tweet) but I happily engage with others, just not you.

ball, not man.

It's ok sniper, not bothered by it, just gutted I miss out on the great debate.

 

[Benotti69]

Wow! Machine calibration error again for Hesjedal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[doperhopper]

Yet another one-liner from Naughters (on Thor's Norwegian team, having issues with him in the past ):

Jonathan Vaughters ‏@Vaughters
In other news, Exxon Valdez captain decides to open ship driving academy...

 

[Benotti69]

Re:

Yet another one-liner from Naughters (on Thor's Norwegian team, having issues with him in the past ):

Jonathan Vaughters ‏@Vaughters
In other news, Exxon Valdez captain decides to open ship driving academy...

Vaughters taking a snide dig at Thor.

Obviously JV doesn't welcome the idea, relegates his team further down the pecking order.

His vocal anti-doping has been deafening during this tour.

 

[Benotti69]

Vaughters likes to think of himself of a know-it-all. He says comparing times is not accurate, yet now he is comparing times?

Guy really took too much dope!

Jonathan Vaughters ‏@Vaughters 3 hours ago

Ahhhh.... 39:25. So, over 2mins slower than the record?

Only 2 mins of guys who probably had a HcT of 60+%

I mean Quintana rode faster than Mr 64% Riis did in 1997.

Krusty the Argyle clown.

 

[Lyon]

JV will never change but that's ok - the portion of the human race that participates in pro cycling magically changed overnight sometime in 2008. And then again in 2009.

 

[Jacques (7 ch)]

Give JV a break. His volume has gone down rather, this year...

Haven't heard anyone say 'Crazy adaptive physiology' for quite some time!

Sport seems to have moved past the late 2000s/ early 2010s narrative (when there might have been a chance...) - Now it's back to maximum greed.

 

[goggalor]

Re:

Yet another one-liner from Naughters (on Thor's Norwegian team, having issues with him in the past ):

Jonathan Vaughters ‏@Vaughters
In other news, Exxon Valdez captain decides to open ship driving academy...

lol, that's pretty rich coming from one of the most notoriously incompetent team managers.