JV talks, sort of

[roundabout]

Re:

Vaughters likes to think of himself of a know-it-all. He says comparing times is not accurate, yet now he is comparing times?

Guy really took too much dope!

Jonathan Vaughters ‏@Vaughters 3 hours ago

Ahhhh.... 39:25. So, over 2mins slower than the record?

Only 2 mins of guys who probably had a HcT of 60+%

I mean Quintana rode faster than Mr 64% Riis did in 1997.

Krusty the Argyle clown.

Over 2 minutes faster than what his guys managed as well.

Make that 5 minutes faster than Talansky.

Maybe it's time to invest in some better riders if he has no problems with his team getting destroyed?

 

[Benotti69]

JV, you might want to check some of those snakeoil bottles are not out of date, ol Tommy D seems to have found a bad'un.

 

[blackcat]

#machinecalibrationerror trending on twitter

 

[BYOP88]

Re:

JV, you might want to check some of those snakeoil bottles are not out of date, ol Tommy D seems to have found a bad'un.

Anything from him about this or is it the normal: look at my wine cellar or I've got my pilot's license or the gold standard, weiner gag?

 

[blackcat]

anychance this news was news 6 or seven weeks ago, and Garmin ended up on bread and water at the Tour because they knew they had a positive down the line so Talansky never got his blood refills?

 

[Benotti69]

Re:

anychance this news was news 6 or seven weeks ago, and Garmin ended up on bread and water at the Tour because they knew they had a positive down the line so Talansky never got his blood refills?

Notification from USADA of a failed anti doping test from July 9.

It didn't stop Hesjedal's MCE in the 3rd week of the TdF.

Danielson's is the first testosterone positive at this level since 2012."Old school", maybe JV's internal testing program don't test for old school doping........

 

[blackcat]

will need all his Denver MBA skilz to reverse out of this clusterfukc.

mebbe we can bring back Kristin's corner. the alliteration just does not look as good spelling Kristin with a K. how about "Cath's corner"? better still, "Cound's corner"

I could buy the LRP was on the exogenous testo, but Tommy Dee? no siree, only endogenous testo all the way, why would he need to take the isotope 13C. only 12C for Tommy.

 

[Benotti69]

Tour of Utah announces that entire Cannondale-Garmin team has withdrawn from the race. Tom Danielson was two-time, defending champion. Let's hope USADA retests all Slipstream samples.

 

[Benotti69]

JV in a tweet (he since deleted) said ;

All of our sponsors contracts are breached on 1 positive test. We get a positive, we disappear.

25/05/2013

Maybe things changed when the team merged with Cannondale, but long standing contracts with other sponsors might have remained the same....so I expect JV to spin this in his favour, or take this opportunity to get some use out of his MBA........

 

[Benotti69]

this from June 2015

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/26/sports/cycling/us-cyclists-fight-to-spread-their-message-were-clean.html?_r=2

Early on, the team implemented a stringent doping policy that remains today. If a rider is caught doping, the whole team will be fired.

So will JV fire the whole team, then rehire them?

What happened to JV's internal testing program, is that BS? Does it exist? Why did it not see TD's testosterone?

Today, Cannondale-Garmin performs additional screening for performance-enhancing drugs, beyond what is required.

JV caught with his pants down on this.

 

[mrhender]

JV in a tough spot...

Put himself there in my opinion..

Betting the house, that none of your riders tests positive... Is heavy betting..
But he had a long and (partly) good run with this discourse...

Well, maybe the B-sample could change things... Let's see...

 

[Warhawk]

Re:

JV in a tough spot...

Put himself there in my opinion..

Betting the house, that none of your riders tests positive... Is heavy betting..
But he had a long and (partly) good run with this discourse...

Well, maybe the B-sample could change things... Let's see...

It was always a stupid way of going about things in the first place. Even if you're 100% earnest in your and your organization's opposition to doping, you can't account for the decisions of every rider on your team.

 

[Benotti69]

Jv thought he was smarter than the average bear...............

 

[Benotti69]

Are Mauro Gianetti, Manolo Saiz and Bjarne Riss still looking for a job, Girona aint to far too travel.................

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

I think Jona is done talking for now and is sucking up to Doug as we speak. Sad really.

 

[SeriousSam]

Re: Re:

JV in a tough spot...

Put himself there in my opinion..

Betting the house, that none of your riders tests positive... Is heavy betting..
But he had a long and (partly) good run with this discourse...

Well, maybe the B-sample could change things... Let's see...

It was always a stupid way of going about things in the first place. Even if you're 100% earnest in your and your organization's opposition to doping, you can't account for the decisions of every rider on your team.

Yes, it's pure idiocy. But if you want to cash in on the "look at us, zero tolerance about dem dirty dopers!" market you better be ready to be a man of your word.

Now, it just needs to be twisted into Tom not really testing positive. Had a bad steak, the pharmacy made a mistake, someone rubbed cream on him without him knowing it, too many unit of alcohol or what have you. Willful doping, though? Heaven forbid.

 

[arthurvandelay]

Re: Re:

JV in a tough spot...

Put himself there in my opinion..

Betting the house, that none of your riders tests positive... Is heavy betting..
But he had a long and (partly) good run with this discourse...

Well, maybe the B-sample could change things... Let's see...

It was always a stupid way of going about things in the first place. Even if you're 100% earnest in your and your organization's opposition to doping, you can't account for the decisions of every rider on your team.

Yes, it's pure idiocy. But if you want to cash in on the "look at us, zero tolerance about dem dirty dopers!" market you better be ready to be a man of your word.

Now, it just needs to be twisted into Tom not really testing positive. Had a bad steak, the pharmacy made a mistake, someone rubbed cream on him without him knowing it, too many unit of alcohol or what have you. Willful doping, though? Heaven forbid.

Tommy D has always been a doper. The word in the cycling community here in Durango is that his first wife left him over his doping. I am guessing that maybe Tommy D thought that the American races would be less stringent with testing so he started his "T" buildup early but instead got caught by an out of competition test. Definitely one the dumber dopers in the peloton.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Come on JV
The Forum
is
Waiting for a Message of Some Sort or Another
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTFIzLKaZj4?t=53

 

[afpm90]

Re:

anychance this news was news 6 or seven weeks ago, and Garmin ended up on bread and water at the Tour because they knew they had a positive down the line so Talansky never got his blood refills?

The whole team seems to be on bread and water since the beginning of the year. Except for Hesjedal during the Giro.

 

[pastronef]

Re:

Come on JV
The Forum
is
Waiting for a Message of Some Sort or Another
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTFIzLKaZj4?t=53

this forum better wait
I would never enter these quick sands again in I were him.
there's nothing he could say

 

[AICA ribonucleotide]

Re:

anychance this news was news 6 or seven weeks ago, and Garmin ended up on bread and water at the Tour because they knew they had a positive down the line so Talansky never got his blood refills?

Talansky got 11th in the tour clean??

 

[MarkvW]

Next time (and there will be a next time) some *** artist and former doper pitches a line about "clean cycling," you can just laugh and say "whatever, dude."

Pro cycling is post-hypocritical. Sponsors! Run away!!

 

[Lyon]

Re: Re:

anychance this news was news 6 or seven weeks ago, and Garmin ended up on bread and water at the Tour because they knew they had a positive down the line so Talansky never got his blood refills?

Talansky got 11th in the tour clean??

At least on low octane. It seems only a few riders do the high octane stuff during the Tour nowadays. Some stages a few of the helpers might be on better stuff than lower ranked GC guys.

 

[the delgados]

Re:

Next time (and there will be a next time) some *** artist and former doper pitches a line about "clean cycling," you can just laugh and say "whatever, dude."

Pro cycling is post-hypocritical. Sponsors! Run away!!

And go where?
I agree with everything you said, but it always strikes me as odd that posters here act as though they have been betrayed.

 

[Taxus4a]

Re: Re:

JV in a tough spot...

Put himself there in my opinion..

Betting the house, that none of your riders tests positive... Is heavy betting..
But he had a long and (partly) good run with this discourse...

Well, maybe the B-sample could change things... Let's see...

It was always a stupid way of going about things in the first place. Even if you're 100% earnest in your and your organization's opposition to doping, you can't account for the decisions of every rider on your team.

Yes, it's pure idiocy. But if you want to cash in on the "look at us, zero tolerance about dem dirty dopers!" market you better be ready to be a man of your word.

Now, it just needs to be twisted into Tom not really testing positive. Had a bad steak, the pharmacy made a mistake, someone rubbed cream on him without him knowing it, too many unit of alcohol or what have you. Willful doping, though? Heaven forbid.

Tommy D has always been a doper. The word in the cycling community here in Durango is that his first wife left him over his doping. I am guessing that maybe Tommy D thought that the American races would be less stringent with testing so he started his "T" buildup early but instead got caught by an out of competition test. Definitely one the dumber dopers in the peloton.

Possibly, fortunately he has been caught and that is a message for other possible dopers in those races.

JV must give an explanation of how a possible doper along these years is in his team.

Anyway JV deserves more aplause in the antidoping than most of the directors.