Race Radio said:I look forward to the "Is Hog on the Garmin Bandwagon?" threads
Beat me to it.
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Race Radio said:I look forward to the "Is Hog on the Garmin Bandwagon?" threads
Race Radio said:I look forward to the "Is Hog on the Garmin Bandwagon?" threads
I always enjoy this type of comment, not just in cycling. The idea that you need to earn the right to criticize, or have an opinion. That outsiders ought to accept what they're told and stfu.zigmeister said:I always enjoy the keyboard warriors who don't run a team, manage a team, or really have a full idea of the responsibility of owning a team and what that involves.
JV's (highly filtered) perspective is very interesting and that he posts here is great, but if he doesn't feel like posting any more, so be it. The prospect of that happening shouldn't deter anyone from freely expressing his opinion up to and including calling out JV on his BS.zigmeister said:But continue on fellas...enventually JV won't come on here anymore and you can continue to talk yourselves in circles (not that you don't already as the past several pages have shown) and end up completely nowhere.
Those suggestions are completely tangential to what posters here seek: Information. We aren't asking JV to tell us how we can personally do something to combat doping.zigmeister said:JV has made a few suggestions, which of course, nobody will ever take him up on. One is, go get involved in your local cycling, not just racing, but the other aspects that include the managing/doping controls etc.
The only possible impact of a vote is an astronomically small chance to determine the outcome of an election. In other words, you might as well throw it in the trash. Why doing something as useless as voting should be a prerequisite to complain and criticize is a mystery.zigmeister said:But, like many if this World, people complain, like politics, yet never go out and do anything about it, and keep voting the same jackasses into the job.
Seems like you might be a typical white knight of the internet, excited to garner JV's attention by admonishing the boorish clinic posters. Kind of like a nerdy guy who hopes he can score with the girl of his dreams when he defends her against mean bullies.zigmeister said:Seems some of you are so excited to garner JV's attention, that it fuels your senselessness. Kind of like young school girls who's father didn't give them attention and never had a role model show them has a woman should be treated. Then, when any guy comes along and gives you attention, you lose your minds. Then become strippers of course.
zigmeister said:The thread is becoming quite useless at this point, even when JV is trying to accommodate people. I don't see Brailsford or the likes on here trying to engage and talk about these issues.
why does JV pretend not to know or not to care about Froome? Froome is beating his riders by quite some margin.zigmeister said:
nice strawman. i think you'll find all six of your favorite posters agreeing with you here.GuyIncognito said:But he has the right to an opinion, as I have a right to mine.
mewmewmew13 said:This is one of my nagging questions. I do believe that Brailsford changes his comments to fit the times.
Everything he's said before though is on record but he never seems to be actually confronted with his previous statements.
And yes..Zam is totally spot on..if you want to have JV come here and seriously answer your questions than the few that are being aggressive and antagonistic should learn some manners and act in a mature fashion. That is not defined as @ss-kissing
You may not agree with JV but acting superior or attacking does nothing and only brands those who do as immature Neanderthals..
and btw yes you can be confidant and straightforward and at the same time be somewhat thin-skinned. I totally get that. So shut up
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problem with lies, or spin, or expedient responses, you never really can go back to history, and reverse engineer their source based on the truth.mewmewmew13 said:This is one of my nagging questions. I do believe that Brailsford changes his comments to fit the times.
Everything he's said before though is on record but he never seems to be actually confronted with his previous statements.
And yes..Zam is totally spot on..if you want to have JV come here and seriously answer your questions than the few that are being aggressive and antagonistic should learn some manners and act in a mature fashion. That is not defined as @ss-kissing
You may not agree with JV but acting superior or attacking does nothing and only brands those who do as immature Neanderthals..
and btw yes you can be confidant and straightforward and at the same time be somewhat thin-skinned. I totally get that. So shut up
GuyIncognito said:The level of attitude in here is insane.
Having an opinion is fine. Being a massive ******* is not. I never thought I'd say this, but about 6 of you are worse than Sky fans. And I actually mean it.
Do I trust JV fully? Of course not, the man signed Nuyens for god's sake. But he has the right to an opinion, as I have a right to mine.
GuyIncognito said:The level of attitude in here is insane.
Having an opinion is fine. Being a massive ******* is not. I never thought I'd say this, but about 6 of you are worse than Sky fans. And I actually mean it.
Do I trust JV fully? Of course not, the man signed Nuyens for god's sake. But he has the right to an opinion, as I have a right to mine. The circuitous arguments some of you come up to justify being asshats to him while claiming he owes you something alternate between hilarious and infuriating, but never stray too far from very goddamn stupid.
The guy even went as far as he could in implying Froome is on drugs as he can without being sued, but nope...not good enough. The entitlement is staggering.
I'll say it again. Half a dozen of you are blinder than Sky fans. Which I previously didn't think possible.
Netserk said:JV what do you think of the 'new' 2017(?) plans? (Regarding the calender and divisions)
Netserk said:Would you like things to stay as they are, or just drop the whole WT/PT?
Netserk said:JV what do you think of the 'new' 2017(?) plans? (Regarding the calender and divisions)
JV1973 said:I think it's a ridiculous piece of shit.
Granville57 said:JV,
I'm not sure if you've read any or all of Juliet Macur's most recent book, but I'm wondering about Allen Lim's assessment of Floyd's mental health, as presented on those pages.
I can't seem to shake the notion that Allen may have been overreacting to some of Floyd's behavior, because, I dunno, maybe Lim just hadn't been around too many extreme personalities up that point in his life? Purely conjecture on my part, of course.
But beyond the back-and-forth about how much money Lim did or did not receive, and the extent that Lim may or may not have been a part of Floyd's doping, do you think he painted an accurate picture of Floyd?
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JV1973 said:You're not asking the right question. The question you should ask is: "as a fan, what do I want professional cycling to be like?
Netserk said:Okay, I'd like smaller teams (in races), so 6 men in races where we now have 8, and 8 in the GTs. It seems to do the trick in the OG.
Do you think that would lead to smaller teams (rosters), teams participating in more races, more teams (if they also get smaller)? Do you think it will result in better (and less controlled) racing?
Granville57 said:I think a good starting point would be to make more races available for those who actually want to watch them. But that's just me...thinking outside of the box.
(Snark not directed at you, JV. It's a total joke that I the only way I can follow much of the sport is through unreliable pirate feeds on the internet.)
Oh, and before I forget: I would love to see TT bikes banned from the sport. Too many times, these professional athletes at the height of their capabilities, are made to look like rank amateurs. Mutliple riders going off the road during TTTs, riders crashing while going slowly around sharp bends in a TT...the list goes on and on.
The best TT riders are still the best whether competing on road bikes or TT bikes, so what's the point? In my opinion, it's bad for the sport. When a casual—or potentially new—fan see riders losing control of their machine as if they've never been on one before, it is hardly a flaterreing image for the sport.
But I digress...