Kennaugh

[ingsve]

Do they have to use the specific rider that has gotten the points or could they choose other riders if they want to, just as long as they have someone who has gotten them points to earn the spots?

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Do they have to use the specific rider that has gotten the points or could they choose other riders if they want to, just as long as they have someone who has gotten them points to earn the spots?

Pick who they like.

Will be interesting to see if Bradley chooses to join TeamCav.

 

[stefrees]

Do they have to use the specific rider that has gotten the points or could they choose other riders if they want to, just as long as they have someone who has gotten them points to earn the spots?

They can use anyone, doesn't have to be the riders with points.

For what it's worth, I'd go for

Stannard, Thomas, swift, millar, Cummings, Hammond, and then downing

 

[Anonymous]

Pick who they like.

Will be interesting to see if Bradley chooses to join TeamCav.

think its more likely he will focus on the time trial

They can use anyone, doesn't have to be the riders with points.

For what it's worth, I'd go for

Stannard, Thomas, swift, millar, Cummings, Hammond, and then downing

Id be similar, but might give Blythe a shot as he picked up a point. Could be useful in the leadout.

Of course, if Cavendish signs for Greenedge Dave Brailsford might decide to stick it to him and leave him out with the team riding for Swift

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

One leadout sprinter and the rest the biggest engines they can find presumably.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

think its more likely he will focus on the time trial

Yup, but that's 3 or 4 days before, and likely his last race of the year unless he rides worlds, so there'd really be nothing stopping him riding other than a lack of desire.

 

[Andy99]

They can use anyone, doesn't have to be the riders with points.

For what it's worth, I'd go for

Stannard, Thomas, swift, millar, Cummings, Hammond, and then downing

Possibly squeeze jez hunt in there for his experience. Either way, a pretty strong train for our Mark.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

They can use anyone, doesn't have to be the riders with points.

For what it's worth, I'd go for

Stannard, Thomas, swift, millar, Cummings, Hammond, and then downing

Pick the riders who want to be there. I'd have guessed, without thinking of anyone specifically, they'll be at least 1 rider you've listed who doesn't want to bother. Anyone going has to be 100% committed to the job they're given to do.

 

[Midnightfright]

So am I right in saying cummings 9th place in the GC gets the extra guy for the world championship?

 

[Anonymous]

So am I right in saying cummings 9th place in the GC gets the extra guy for the world championship?

if he stays there yes. Top ten get WT points

 

[ferryman]

Possibly squeeze jez hunt in there for his experience. Either way, a pretty strong train for our Mark.

Thank you for an early morning laugh. A GB train at the end of the Worlds

 

[Andy99]

Thank you for an early morning laugh. A GB train at the end of the Worlds

A few years ago, yes. Though if its as flat as conflicting reports suggest, there is indeed that possibility.

Anyhow, what do you care, your Scottish, so presumably one of Salmonds anti-uk cronies.

 

[Tank Engine]

I was surprised to see Kennaugh do the Giro. After a pretty hard 1st week he was about 20th (which seemed pretty impressive, even knowing about his baby giro exploits). He finished midfield (I guess Sky just put him in there for the experience, so there was no pressure). Since then, he podiumed at the Route de Sud (not a big race I know) and I was interested to see how he would do in Poland. I hoped he might come in the top 10. He was visible near the front quite often (e.g. when Nibali pushed the pace in Cieszyn and when Martin attacked in Zakopane). He seems to be a natural stage racer, is already good and will be very good, but how good remains to be seen.

 

[asdfgh101]

I maybe wrong, but I 'think' the ninth rider can be earned via the GB ranking in the Europe tour *


*see the uci 'rules'. Btw, I had lunch at UCI HQ in aigle today. Good spread. Highly recommended.

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/getObject.asp?MenuId=&ObjTypeCode=FILE&type=FILE&id=NjY2OTc&LangId=1

* A national federation not reaching its athlete quota through the UCI World Tour rankings of the UCI WorldTour calendar may obtain places up to the number of places it was unable to obtain in its respective tour.

The first 16 nations of the classification by nation of the UCI Europe Tour on 15 August 2011 excluding the nations qualifying via the UCI WorldTour classification: the first six nations qualifying can enter 9 riders, with 6 to start (rank 1); the nations ranked 7th to 16th can enter 5 riders, with 3 to start (rank 2).

The european nations with a rider among the first 200 of the individual classification of the UCI Europe Tour on 15 August 2011: each nation may enter 2 riders, with 1 to start.

 

[JRanton]

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/getObject.asp?MenuId=&ObjTypeCode=FILE&type=FILE&id=NjY2OTc&LangId=1

* A national federation not reaching its athlete quota through the UCI World Tour rankings of the UCI WorldTour calendar may obtain places up to the number of places it was unable to obtain in its respective tour.

The first 16 nations of the classification by nation of the UCI Europe Tour on 15 August 2011 excluding the nations qualifying via the UCI WorldTour classification: the first six nations qualifying can enter 9 riders, with 6 to start (rank 1); the nations ranked 7th to 16th can enter 5 riders, with 3 to start (rank 2).

The european nations with a rider among the first 200 of the individual classification of the UCI Europe Tour on 15 August 2011: each nation may enter 2 riders, with 1 to start.

So in English, does that mean GB get a 9th rider or not?

 

[asdfgh101]

Some points

1. GB 17th on UCI Europe Tour rankings as of 25 July but due to overtake Austria due to results in the last couple of days (Vuelta a Leon).

2. GB has Luke Rowe as its highest ranked rider on the UCI Europe Tour, 109th as of 25 July.

3. Regarding Sky tactics perhaps Stannard and Dowsett would have been better off racing the Eneco Tour.

Edit: Almost definitely a full team for GB and most likely Kennaugh and Cummings points weren't needed (although the 51 points acquired by Kennaugh have served to all but ensure a top 10 ranking in the UCI World Tour).

 

[JRanton]

Some points

1. GB 17th on UCI Europe Tour rankings as of 25 July but due to overtake Austria due to results in the last couple of days (Vuelta a Leon).

2. GB has Luke Rowe as its highest ranked rider on the UCI Europe Tour, 109th as of 25 July.

3. Regarding Sky tactics perhaps Stannard and Dowsett would have been better off racing the Eneco Tour.

Edit: Almost definitely a full team for GB and most likely Kennaugh and Cummings points weren't needed (although the 51 points acquired by Kennaugh have served to all but ensure a top 10 ranking in the UCI World Tour).

Thanks.

...

 

[greenedge]

I hope Cummings and Stannard can get in. I like them both, Cummings for being a stout rider who has shown good flair/ form this year and Stannard for his lead out roles.

 

[Anonymous]

So in English, does that mean GB get a 9th rider or not?

I dont think that counts because it is for countries not represented in the world tour rankings.

 

[Anonymous]

Edit: Almost definitely a full team for GB and most likely Kennaugh and Cummings points weren't needed (although the 51 points acquired by Kennaugh have served to all but ensure a top 10 ranking in the UCI World Tour).

I think they will have eight riders.

And Kennaugh, Cummings and Blythes points almost certainly were needed otherwise they would only have 6

 

[asdfgh101]

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/ge...Y2OTc&LangId=1

* A national federation not reaching its athlete quota through the UCI World Tour rankings of the UCI WorldTour calendar may obtain places up to the number of places it was unable to obtain in its respective tour.

 

[Andy99]

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/ge...Y2OTc&LangId=1

* A national federation not reaching its athlete quota through the UCI World Tour rankings of the UCI WorldTour calendar may obtain places up to the number of places it was unable to obtain in its respective tour.

Exactly. 9 riders it is.

 

[Anonymous]

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/ge...Y2OTc&LangId=1

* A national federation not reaching its athlete quota through the UCI World Tour rankings of the UCI WorldTour calendar may obtain places up to the number of places it was unable to obtain in its respective tour.

but then it says

*The first 16 nations of the classification by nation of the UCI Europe Tour on 15 August 2011 excluding the nations qualifying via the UCI WorldTour classification

I think we are guessing frankly, and I think the UCI rules are made deliberately complicated

 

[Tuarts]

Full document here

 

[sublimit]

but then it says

*The first 16 nations of the classification by nation of the UCI Europe Tour on 15 August 2011 excluding the nations qualifying via the UCI WorldTour classification

I think we are guessing frankly, and I think the UCI rules are made deliberately complicated

I must admit to have given up on the UCI qualifying rules, my brother is a nuclear scientist and even he is baffled.
My gut feeling is its 9 but thats more of a guess than knowing what the hell I'm talking about.