Kimmage interviews Floyd Landis: Sunday Times + Bombshell NYVC transcript [merged]

[sniper]

For me the big thing is its in the magazine. Not the sports pages. There are a lot of times readers who have probably heard of lance armstrong despite not being cycling fans, and may even have heard that some bitter crackpot called floyd who is writing lies about him. But thats all they know.

This article will be read by many thousands of those people, who know have a bit of an insight into floyd. For me this article will have a big impact on public opinion of the "non cycling fans". It gives floyd a lot of credibility.

While armstrong has millions and plenty of people to do his PR for him. Floyd doesnt have very many friends to do the same. Kimmage is one of the few. There will be a few people learnt, or changed their minds about landis this morning.

+1
Couldn'T agree more.
Hats off to Kimmage for sticking his neck out in name of the truth.

 

[Granville57]

Since we're seeing this extensive sit-down with Kimmage, and Floyd had previously done the same with Bonnie D. Ford, wouldn't that seem to suggest that Floyd is probably not planning on writing a book of his own?

 

[SaftyCyclist]

I think another thing people reading this article will take from it is that, this time, Floyd is telling the truth, I think that's maybe what Kimmage was aiming at, restoring the credibility of a man who's been stated as having no credibility. I goes into the fact that he's not profiting from this, he's also deliberately perjured himself and thinks he may go to jail, but he's told the truth now and he's getting to a point where his demons may go away.

 

[TubularBills]

Since we're seeing this extensive sit-down with Kimmage, and Floyd had previously done the same with Bonnie D. Ford, wouldn't that seem to suggest that Floyd is probably not planning on writing a book of his own?

Good insight - A Kimmage/Landis collaboration? Maybe their saving the full story for a book and this is just a teaser. Broaden the audience with a human interest story and then release the book. Has anyone asked Kimmage if he's working on a book? The timing seems excellent from a marketing perspective with the supposed upcoming indictments.

Also, 'in hiding' could simply mean 'in seclusion' for the 'tell all' collaboration? Insulated from the political backlash and mudslinging of the LA propaganda and vitriol machine.

 

[nevada]

I think another thing people reading this article will take from it is that, this time, Floyd is telling the truth, I think that's maybe what Kimmage was aiming at, restoring the credibility of a man who's been stated as having no credibility. I goes into the fact that he's not profiting from this, he's also deliberately perjured himself and thinks he may go to jail, but he's told the truth now and he's getting to a point where his demons may go away.

I dont think most people reading the magazine will give a sh1te and may not even read it. It should have been in the Sport section.

 

[Anonymous]

I dont think most people reading the magazine will give a sh1te and may not even read it. It should have been in the Sport section.

I disagree. A "human intrest" story in the magazine will get much more readership. To be honest, the bulk of those that read the sports section will probably know much of the background already. Having it the magazine brings floyd to a whole new readership.

As an example, i can give you at least one household where the non-sports fans all read the entire magazine today but would not normally look at the sports section.

 

[gree0232]

For me the big thing is its in the magazine. Not the sports pages. There are a lot of times readers who have probably heard of lance armstrong despite not being cycling fans, and may even have heard that some bitter crackpot called floyd who is writing lies about him. But thats all they know.

This article will be read by many thousands of those people, who know have a bit of an insight into floyd. For me this article will have a big impact on public opinion of the "non cycling fans". It gives floyd a lot of credibility.

While armstrong has millions and plenty of people to do his PR for him. Floyd doesnt have very many friends to do the same. Kimmage is one of the few. There will be a few people learnt, or changed their minds about landis this morning.

This is factually wrong.

Floyd obviously has friends with enough money to bankroll his participation in a Bike team, get booths at the ToC, and 'encourage' him to go out of his 'story' out there.

There are also guys like Kimmage, LeMond, **** Pound, and organizations like AFLD, and THEIR backers that are ensuring the legal process is well funded.

Floyd is not an underdog in this one. And there are vested interests driving the Landis accussations and their 'drive to light' that probably SHOULD be acknowledged as we turn Landis into the proverbial David vs. Goliath.

If there is anything that I feel badly for Landis about, it is that these interests pushing and using his anger and frustration couldn't give a rip less about him. When the process is done, Floyd will then truelt be left in the lurch - his supporters abandoning him (particularly if the process fails), and the sport unwilling to touch him with a ten foot pole as result of his actions.

Kimmage isn't lending any credibility to anything other than himself. And demanding that Roche and Shleck behave like pompous asses helps no at all.

 

[SaftyCyclist]

This is factually wrong.

Floyd obviously has friends with enough money to bankroll his participation in a Bike team, get booths at the ToC, and 'encourage' him to go out of his 'story' out there.

There are also guys like Kimmage, LeMond, **** Pound, and organizations like AFLD, and THEIR backers that are ensuring the legal process is well funded.

Floyd is not an underdog in this one. And there are vested interests driving the Landis accussations and their 'drive to light' that probably SHOULD be acknowledged as we turn Landis into the proverbial David vs. Goliath.

If there is anything that I feel badly for Landis about, it is that these interests pushing and using his anger and frustration couldn't give a rip less about him. When the process is done, Floyd will then truelt be left in the lurch - his supporters abandoning him (particularly if the process fails), and the sport unwilling to touch him with a ten foot pole as result of his actions.

Kimmage isn't lending any credibility to anything other than himself. And demanding that Roche and Shleck behave like pompous asses helps no at all.

Ackowledge away, we need to know who these people are if they exist, otherwise how can we ackowledge them, is there any proof that the ones mentioned above have any financial interest? If not, then who?

 

[thehog]

I disagree. A "human intrest" story in the magazine will get much more readership. To be honest, the bulk of those that read the sports section will probably know much of the background already. Having it the magazine brings floyd to a whole new readership.

As an example, i can give you at least one household where the non-sports fans all read the entire magazine today but would not normally look at the sports section.

I just hope Mr. Wiggins reads it. Not far where he was for a while.

I think article balances the mental states of Armstrong v Landis very well. There's a lot implied in the article. One is on a self confined path to destruction. The other is free. Guess whos who.

Agree on the magazine. Most who are not interested in sport pitch the sports section. I've seen the Times Sunday magazine sit in cafes for a week with multiple reads. Chics read it too!

 

[Race Radio]

This is factually wrong.

Floyd obviously has friends with enough money to bankroll his participation in a Bike team, get booths at the ToC, and 'encourage' him to go out of his 'story' out there.

There are also guys like Kimmage, LeMond, **** Pound, and organizations like AFLD, and THEIR backers that are ensuring the legal process is well funded.

Floyd is not an underdog in this one. And there are vested interests driving the Landis accussations and their 'drive to light' that probably SHOULD be acknowledged as we turn Landis into the proverbial David vs. Goliath.

If there is anything that I feel badly for Landis about, it is that these interests pushing and using his anger and frustration couldn't give a rip less about him. When the process is done, Floyd will then truelt be left in the lurch - his supporters abandoning him (particularly if the process fails), and the sport unwilling to touch him with a ten foot pole as result of his actions.

Kimmage isn't lending any credibility to anything other than himself. And demanding that Roche and Shleck behave like pompous asses helps no at all.

Comedy gold!

Landis is now the big money guy shaping the media.

 

[thehog]

I just hope Mr. Wiggins reads it. Not far where he was for a while.

I think article balances the mental states of Armstrong v Landis very well. There's a lot implied in the article. One is on a self confined path to destruction. The other is free. Guess whos who.

Agree on the magazine. Most who are not interested in sport pitch the sports section. I've seen the Times Sunday magazine sit in cafes for a week with multiple reads. Chics read it too!

I should add:- it's the first Armstrong/Landis article I've read whereby the comments section is not filled with "never tested positive", "Floyd is a liar" and the like. Bravo Kimmage.

 

[Benotti69]

This is factually wrong.

Floyd obviously has friends with enough money to bankroll his participation in a Bike team, get booths at the ToC, and 'encourage' him to go out of his 'story' out there.

There are also guys like Kimmage, LeMond, **** Pound, and organizations like AFLD, and THEIR backers that are ensuring the legal process is well funded.

Floyd is not an underdog in this one. And there are vested interests driving the Landis accussations and their 'drive to light' that probably SHOULD be acknowledged as we turn Landis into the proverbial David vs. Goliath.

If there is anything that I feel badly for Landis about, it is that these interests pushing and using his anger and frustration couldn't give a rip less about him. When the process is done, Floyd will then truelt be left in the lurch - his supporters abandoning him (particularly if the process fails), and the sport unwilling to touch him with a ten foot pole as result of his actions.

Kimmage isn't lending any credibility to anything other than himself. And demanding that Roche and Shleck behave like pompous asses helps no at all.

Floyd thought he had a friend who has enough money to bankroll the rest of Floyd's natural life, but there is no friendship in TeamPharmastrong.

Kimmage has nothing to do with ensuring Floyd's legal process is well funded.

i would like to see some evidence of Richard Pound and AFLD backing Landis.

If you are again knocking Landis on behalf of TeamPharmstrong consider yourself failed.

 

[enrecul]

Kimmage Times Article

Apologies if someone had posted a link to this already. I have looked but with no joy, so does anyone have a link to the Kimmage Article from the ST today?
Or a copy and paste?

Cheers

 

[Barrus]

Do not ask for scans or links to copyrighted material, you'll need to register with the sunday times

 

[MarkvW]

His name is **** Pound, isn't it?

Do not ask for scans or links to copyrighted material, you'll need to register with the sunday times

Is his name ****?
Or is his name Asterisk?

 

[Barrus]

Is his name ****?
Or is his name Asterisk?

What does that have to do with my post?

 

[Benotti69]

Is his name ****?
Or is his name Asterisk?

his name is Dïck but the swear filter edits it to ****

 

[Anonymous]

While armstrong has millions and plenty of people to do his PR for him. Floyd doesnt have very many friends to do the same. Kimmage is one of the few. There will be a few people learnt, or changed their minds about landis this morning.

This is factually wrong.

Floyd obviously has friends with enough money to bankroll his participation in a Bike team, get booths at the ToC, and 'encourage' him to go out of his 'story' out there.

There are also guys like Kimmage, LeMond, **** Pound, and organizations like AFLD, and THEIR backers that are ensuring the legal process is well funded.

Floyd is not an underdog in this one. And there are vested interests driving the Landis accussations and their 'drive to light' that probably SHOULD be acknowledged as we turn Landis into the proverbial David vs. Goliath.

Would you like to tell me how this is factually wrong? Armstrong does have a lot of money, and has the best PR and Lawyers money can buy, weve seen countless articles cancelled, toned down etc through his PR guys. Armstrong has the likes of Sherwen and Liggett to peddle his lies across the television, he has the head of the UCI for crying out loud to tell us all what a liar Landis is. he also has a certain cancer charity, that will peddle his lies. Millions of fans worldwide who think Landis is a liar because lance survived cancer.

Floyd has what? No money, a few journalists such as kimmage and walsh who the UCI do their best to discredit. And a handful of ex riders such as Lemond, and Andreau who have had their fair share of knockers in the press.

The idea that I was factually wrong is insane. One other point "floyd got a booth at the ToC.. ok, but WHO got to actually ride the ToC.. I will give you a clue. It wasnt floyd.

That said, the tide is turning. One by one the major press outlets are turning on armstrong. Its only a matter of time.

 

[Benotti69]

Would you like to tell me how this is factually wrong? Armstrong does have a lot of money, and has the best PR and Lawyers money can buy, weve seen countless articles cancelled, toned down etc through his PR guys. Armstrong has the likes of Sherwen and Liggett to peddle his lies across the television, he has the head of the UCI for crying out loud to tell us all what a liar Landis is. he also has a certain cancer charity, that will peddle his lies. Millions of fans worldwide who think Landis is a liar because lance survived cancer.

Floyd has what? No money, a few journalists such as kimmage and walsh who the UCI do their best to discredit. And a handful of ex riders such as Lemond, and Andreau who have had their fair share of knockers in the press.

The idea that I was factually wrong is insane. One other point "floyd got a booth at the ToC.. ok, but WHO got to actually ride the ToC.. I will give you a clue. It wasnt floyd.

That said, the tide is turning. One by one the major press outlets are turning on armstrong. Its only a matter of time.

Now go back to your boss and tell him. You did youre best but we're not buying it.

he doesn't need to go back, i bet his boss is addicted to this very clinic and visits everyday

 

[Anonymous]

his name is Dïck but the swear filter edits it to ****

Whos name is d1ck?

 

[Digger]

This is factually wrong.

Floyd obviously has friends with enough money to bankroll his participation in a Bike team, get booths at the ToC, and 'encourage' him to go out of his 'story' out there.

There are also guys like Kimmage, LeMond, **** Pound, and organizations like AFLD, and THEIR backers that are ensuring the legal process is well funded.

Floyd is not an underdog in this one. And there are vested interests driving the Landis accussations and their 'drive to light' that probably SHOULD be acknowledged as we turn Landis into the proverbial David vs. Goliath.

If there is anything that I feel badly for Landis about, it is that these interests pushing and using his anger and frustration couldn't give a rip less about him. When the process is done, Floyd will then truelt be left in the lurch - his supporters abandoning him (particularly if the process fails), and the sport unwilling to touch him with a ten foot pole as result of his actions.

Kimmage isn't lending any credibility to anything other than himself. And demanding that Roche and Shleck behave like pompous asses helps no at all.

So have you read much of Paul's work in the past twenty years? Any examples you especially dislike?

By the way, he is multi award winning and left his previous newspaper because the Editor took a comment from his piece and used it out of context in the frontpage. The Editor used it in a malicous way and Paul resigned, but not before insisting the paper issued a front page apology. This really is the action of a man who looks out for himself.

Note: Still waiting for you to acknowledge that the UCI did not blow the lid on Operation Puerto and bust Valv. piti

 

[Benotti69]

Whos name is d1ck?

Dïck Pound.

 

[Anonymous]

Dïck Pound.

Who Barras didnt mention. Hence the complete confusion

 

[ultimobici]

I refuse to have to pay money to read one single article on the net. What is this world coming to?

Don't be a tight ****, mate. If you were to buy the actual paper it's £2.20 for one issue. £1 for 20 days access is obscenely cheap, even the £1 a week is fair too.

 

[Anonymous]

Don't be a tight ****, mate. If you were to buy the actual paper it's £2.20 for one issue. £1 for 20 days access is obscenely cheap, even the £1 a week is fair too.

When you consider you get to read the paper as printed (see below)

And you get the crossword and everything for £1 for a month and then £2 a week its a bargain. Useful as hell when you are on holiday and cant get an english paper. And besides, its just convenient. for 40p a day i can read it every morning over breakfast. The wife can take captures of recipes etc.

Times online rocks!