Kimmage, Macur and others on Armstrong

[TexPat]

That's the $10,000 question right there.
I'd very curious, if everything does break out in the open, to see what all the wives and girlfriends have to say. Not just Lance's, but Floyd's and Tyler's too. It makes one wonder what Sheryl may have been privy to as well.

This has been on my mind of late. I had a rather strange dream last night with her in it (no, not THAT kind of dream!). The women will play a pivotal role in this trainwreck. Betsy started it. As there are a lot of strong minded women in the background, I'd almost guarantee it.

 

[Granville57]

This has been on my mind of late. I had a rather strange dream last night with her in it (no, not THAT kind of dream!). The women will play a pivotal role in this trainwreck. Betsy started it. As there are a lot of strong minded women in the background, I'd almost guarantee it.

We could build a house
We could build a wall
We could move a mountain
And we could watch it fall

Beautiful Dream
-Sheryl Crow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wGEailNMao

 

[BotanyBay]

To Flicker and FatandFast I have a question.......what would you say if Kristin tells all about Lance's doping? Will yee think it's lies?

I know this question is not addressed to me, but please allow...

No way will she do anything beyond testifying in court. Any non-disclosure agreement she's signed (and you can be sure she's signed one) likely involves a provision that she "shuts the hell up" about her life with Lance. That agreement will specify that she can only say what she's legally required to say.

In other words, Kik likes her megamillion dollar deal just the way it is, thanks.

 

[blackcat]

and she has her children to think about and protect, and maintain a production r/ship with their *** father.

 

[BotanyBay]

This has been on my mind of late. I had a rather strange dream last night with her in it (no, not THAT kind of dream!). The women will play a pivotal role in this trainwreck. Betsy started it. As there are a lot of strong minded women in the background, I'd almost guarantee it.

What can you say about the respective personalities of the women folk here? Kik's been a welded zipper, and Crow has her own empire to manage.

But can you speak to your opinion of what the women folk were like?

 

[TexPat]

I know this question is not addressed to me, but please allow...

No way will she do anything beyond testifying in court. Any non-disclosure agreement she's signed (and you can be sure she's signed one) likely involves a provision that she "shuts the hell up" about her life with Lance. That agreement will specify that she can only say what she's legally required to say.

In other words, Kik likes her megamillion dollar deal just the way it is, thanks.

Ahh, yes. But that's really all that is needed, n'est-ce pas?

 

[flicker]

To Flicker and FatandFast I have a question.......what would you say if Kristin tells all about Lance's doping? Will yee think it's lies?

My prediction is Kik stays mum. For many reasons. My wife and I agree on this, Kik was smart to lose Armstrong. Great rider, dedicated but who on earth would want to spend time with him. particularly in relationship. /than again maybe Kik is the same as Armstrong, they look alike to me.

 

[elizab]

and she has her children to think about and protect, and maintain a production r/ship with their *** father.

Funny how this argument was never used to explain why I never lied and went through what I did for doing so. I thought about my kids - what kind of mom would I be if I lied under oath? It's okay for her to remain mum "for the sake of the kids". "For the sake of the kids" maybe the truth should be told because it means something.
I understand her predicament; I wouldn't have acted in the same manner, however. Then again, I'm not divorced with kids ***. You can protect your kids from so much. Little children do not remain little and ignorant of the realities of life forever.

 

[flicker]

Funny how this argument was never used to explain why I never lied and went through what I did for doing so. I thought about my kids - what kind of mom would I be if I lied under oath? It's okay for her to remain mum "for the sake of the kids". "For the sake of the kids" maybe the truth should be told because it means something.
I understand her predicament; I wouldn't have acted in the same manner, however. Then again, I'm not divorced with kids *** You can protect your kids from so much. Little children do not remain little and ignorant of the realities of life forever.

The sad thing Beth is the kids find out in the end and things happen.

People think they are smarter than everyone else, their parents, their kids, their bosses. They are only fooling themselves.

In my opinion tragic. I guess it has been this way from the beginning of time, we need only study the Romans and the bible.....

 

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[TexPat]

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[elizab]

The sad thing Beth is the kids find out in the end and things happen.

At least her kids are young enough where they can be shielded from all of this meaning the criminal federal investigation of their biological father - until a certain point.
We can keep ours ignorant of the ugly reality as well but the time will come when they'll read it all. We can't protect them from the truth about their dad either even when we explain why and when he did it. That will be tough.

Beth

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Yes, someday Lance's little ignorant kids will grow up and read posts like yours on the interwebs.

They will be grateful for their home alarm systems...

THERE is no ROOM for that type of garbage on this site! Serious Polish you should know better. Rise above it and reply with dignity.

Be careful how YOU proceed.

 

[flicker]

At least her kids are young enough where they can be shielded from all of this meaning the criminal federal investigation of their biological father - until a certain point.
We can keep ours ignorant of the ugly reality as well but the time will come when they'll read it all. We can't protect them from the truth about their dad either even when we explain why and when he did it. That will be tough.

Beth

You know I have trashed many here including you Elizabeth. I have been wrong and I apologize.

I attended a teen parenting class last night. The woman who taught it was from New York, information was coming out in nano seconds, a little quick for our berg. I realized how little I know, but there in wisdom abounds.

Thank you Elizabeth I apologise for being out of bounds. I respect you.

Flicker

 

[Digger]

You know I have trashed many here including you Elizabeth. I have been wrong and I apologize.

I attended a teen parenting class last night. The woman who taught it was from New York, information was coming out in nano seconds, a little quick for our berg. I realized how little I know, but there in wisdom abounds.

Thank you Elizabeth I apologise for being out of bounds. I respect you.

Flicker

If she testifies, will you accept it as the truth, or merely another person with an axe to grind?

 

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[thehog]

At least her kids are young enough where they can be shielded from all of this meaning the criminal federal investigation of their biological father - until a certain point.
We can keep ours ignorant of the ugly reality as well but the time will come when they'll read it all. We can't protect them from the truth about their dad either even when we explain why and when he did it. That will be tough.

Beth

I remember at the time of Comeback 2.0 Armstrong made a comment in regards his alleged drug use. He said didn't want Luke reading all of the drug innuendo and wanted to prove to him Daddy was no cheat. Now of course Armstrong's 2009 was just as drug fuelled as any. The sad story here was that he would actually use his son's name as a shield against doping accusations and continue to dope. It's sick. We expect the denial but to use your own child as defence is really sad as he'll grow up reading that statement.....*

 

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[Susan Westemeyer]

Let's keep the kids out of this. No more posts on that subject, or face a ban.

Susan

 

[hubbard]

kudos to armstrong for donating 50k cash to the qld flood relief fund. what are you keyboard warriors contributing?

 

[Benotti69]

Let's keep the kids out of this. No more posts on that subject, or face a ban.

Susan

i would have thought somebody might have got a time out for OP...

 

[Roland Rat]

kudos to armstrong for donating 50k cash to the qld flood relief fund. what are you keyboard warriors contributing?

If that same nation had just given me $2m in order to ride in the sun for a week (all expenses paid by another 3rd party), I'd donate more than 5% of that.

 

[hubbard]

sure roland. sure you would.

 

[Benotti69]

If that same nation had just given me $2m in order to ride in the sun for a week (all expenses paid by another 3rd party), I'd donate more than 5% of that.

cheaper to give $50k that an ad campaign

 

[flicker]

If she testifies, will you accept it as the truth, or merely another person with an axe to grind?

Truth is good. Honesty is good. Also I weigh things out in the big world.

My answer is I try to weigh out what I want to believe, fiction, truth to enjoy watching cycling. But then again, what do I know, I am just a newbie.

For instance Kimmage, doing his diatribe and analogy on cancer.

I wish he would just move on, it is bad for the sport how Kimmage carries himself.

Is Kimmage bringing on young cyclists to the sport, no.

I put ole Johnny Rotten on here because his step daughter passed away from cancer this last December. In December he did a BBC interview and never mentioned her. Class pure class Johnny.

I find the haters like Kimmage to be dismally droll and bitter.

I mean where does Paul get off on making analogies on cancer, uncalled for in my book.

I do think the people, who grind their axes with hatred for Lance, are a little over the top. I would leave that job to Novitzky and if Betsy testifies that is fine by me, under oath in a court of law.