Lance appearing on Oprah next week

[ChewbaccaD]

Armstrong is about to have his guts severed open in Federal Court.

His "apparent" attempt at redemption with Floyd etc. is all BS. He's playing the game again but this time it's a different tune.

He now wants to be the best at confessing! Can you believe this sh1thead?

Sad and pathetic.

He's going down.

Tygart telling him where to stick it was the first act. He'll give Winphrey little and start competing in the Super Frog triathlon which no one will care about.

He'll be worth about 2m in 18 months time.

Yep, those are the words of the day.

 

[Cozy Beehive]

http://www.oprah.com/pressroom/Lance-Armstrong-on-Oprahs-Next-Chapter

Live "no holds barred" interview.

I wondered how much of it will get edited till the Thursday airing. An individual who works as a production manager told me that the first cut today was 2 1/2 hours long of which they'll bring down to 1 1/2 hours for public viewing.

 

[Page Mill Masochist]

The Wall Street Journal nailed it.

Here.

"The meeting, which was tense, took place at a conference room near the Denver airport. Mr. Tygart told Mr. Armstrong that he had already had his chance to come clean, and that, at best, if he gave full cooperation, the ban would be eight years.

"Mr. Tygart told Mr. Armstrong he stood accused of offenses that stretched beyond doping to a coverup marked by nearly 15 years of denials, threats and actions against anyone who told the truth about doping on the team.

"When Mr. Armstrong told Mr. Tygart that he held the keys to his own redemption, said one person with knowledge of the meeting, Mr. Tygart responded: "That's b—." He told Mr. Armstrong that all he wanted to do was figure out a way to compete again.

"Mr. Armstrong shot back that he would compete in unsanctioned races, hurled a profanity, and walked out.

"While in Hawaii, Mr. Armstrong spent time with Ms. Winfrey."

 

[trompe le monde]

I wondered how much of it will get edited till the Thursday airing. An individual who works as a production manager told me that the first cut today was 2 1/2 hours long of which they'll bring down to 1 1/2 hours for public viewing.

Yeah, it will be interesting to see what the 1 1/2 hours look like.

I dislike the man, but I give either he or his handlers (probably his handlers as Lance doesn't strike me as the brightest of people) credit for moving the interview from his house to a hotel. The hypocrisy of contrition while being interviewed in his own home - look at me, look at the life of splendor being exceptional at cheating has given me! - would probably be too much to take for most viewers with a functional brain stem.

 

[ValleyFlowers]

I wondered how much of it will get edited till the Thursday airing. An individual who works as a production manager told me that the first cut today was 2 1/2 hours long of which they'll bring down to 1 1/2 hours for public viewing.

Probably quite a bit. They'll need to have some background info probably with a podium shot of Lance in yellow and
add a few 'reaction shots' from others involved (maybe Travis Tygart and Betsy Andreu? we can always hope) and time for Oprah to say or make what ever point(s) she wants.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Does anyone else have the feeling that Lance is going to try and bring down absolutely everyone he can?

 

[the sceptic]

Does anyone else have the feeling that Lance is going to try and bring down absolutely everyone he can?

Not really, but lets hope so. That would be amazing TV

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Not really, but lets hope so. That would be amazing TV

He won't. He will only give that information up for a price. What he doesn't realize is that the full price of all of this is already too high for tell-all testimony to cover. From what the WSJ article quoted, he still doesn't realize that the horse is ****ing dead. He still thinks he can ride off into the sunset with some modicum of glory. He is more ****ed than he knows, and it is almost sad to see...almost.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Not really, but lets hope so. That would be amazing TV

It does not sound like Lance to simply either not bring someone down or to not get something out of this 'confession'.

 

[Kennf1]

Interesting article. Oprah spent time in Hawaii before the interview was even announced.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324734904578241801441261928.html?mod=wsj_share_tweet

 

[eljimberino]

"In October, Mr. Armstrong huddled with friends and advisers and told them he was considering coming clean about doping. One person who was there said he laid out several options, ranging from a newspaper interview to incorporating a confession into a Lance Armstrong documentary. He also thought about producing a book, and began reading a biography of Steve Jobs."


Haha.

Imagine the conversation went something like this:

'Get me some books of great men. I'm going to write my own biography. No. No. Not Mussolini. Pol Pot? Whose side are you on? I'll turn this around, you watch. Steve Jobs. Yes, Stevie. He was a great man. Get me his book.'

 

[Kernel]

The best take on today's news

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/questions-oprah-should-ask-lance-armstrong-230849439.html

This story by Dan Wetzel summarizes it at best. Really hope Oprah asks at least one of these questions. Way better then Welsh's questions. On which Welsh will agree I think

 

[peterst6906]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/questions-oprah-should-ask-lance-armstrong-230849439.html

This story by Dan Wetzel summarizes it at best. Really hope Oprah asks at least one of these questions. Way better then Welsh's questions. On which Welsh will agree I think

Love that. Pointed and honest. How times have changed.

 

[mountainrman]

The Wall Street Journal nailed it.

Here.

"The meeting, which was tense, took place at a conference room near the Denver airport. Mr. Tygart told Mr. Armstrong that he had already had his chance to come clean, and that, at best, if he gave full cooperation, the ban would be eight years.

"Mr. Tygart told Mr. Armstrong he stood accused of offenses that stretched beyond doping to a coverup marked by nearly 15 years of denials, threats and actions against anyone who told the truth about doping on the team.

"When Mr. Armstrong told Mr. Tygart that he held the keys to his own redemption, said one person with knowledge of the meeting, Mr. Tygart responded: "That's b—." He told Mr. Armstrong that all he wanted to do was figure out a way to compete again.

"Mr. Armstrong shot back that he would compete in unsanctioned races, hurled a profanity, and walked out.

"While in Hawaii, Mr. Armstrong spent time with Ms. Winfrey."

It proves the obvious - Tygart never had any real interest in Lance telling all - as witness the indecent haste with which they produced the charging document before any real diplomacy - reinforced by the total intransigence of Tygart demonstrated here at this meeting in which it would appear LA was ready to deal.

So Why did Tygart bother to go if he knew he would not be offering a deal and digging his heels in on 8 years - in complete defiance of Tygarts stating previously that truth and reconciliation needed minimal sanctions to work. Seems to me Tygart went because he wanted to humiliate Armstrong face to face - hard to see any other purpose was served.

The reality is that LA knows plenty enough to help the sport not least by showing up UCI for what it is, and I think LA should cut a deal direct with WADA to tell what he knows. If the sport will not budge off 8 years to do that, it is passing up a massive opportunity. Why should LA give up what he knows exceot in exchabge for a reasonable deal?

 

[GJB123]

It proves the obvious - Tygart never had any real interest in Lance telling all - as witness the indecent haste with which they produced the charging document before any real diplomacy - reinforced by the total intransigence of Tygart demonstrated here at this meeting in which it would appear LA was ready to deal. So Why did Tygart bother to go if he knew he would not be offering a deal and digging his heels in on 8 years - in complete defiance of Tygarts stating oreviously that truth and reconciliation needed minimal sanctions to work. Seems to me Tygart went because he wanted to humiliate Armstrong face to face - hard to see any other purpose was served.

The reality is that LA knows plenty enough to help the sport not least by showing up UCI for what it is, and I think LA should cut a deal direct with WADA to tell what he knows. If the sport will not budge off 8 years to do that, it is passing up a massive opportunity.

Blahblahblahblah.

 

[peterst6906]

It proves the obvious - Tygart never had any real interest in Lance telling all...

 

[mountainrman]

Sio don't you guys want to hear the truth about UCI those years?
And if so what are you willing to concede to LA to get that information?

8 years is a lifetime ban by a different name. Not a concession.
It takes two to tango.

 

[Mr.38%]

Love that. Pointed and honest. How times have changed.

Really?

The people who donated to Livestrong under the illusion that this was 100-percent real? So what? The money still went to a good cause. It wasn't stolen for some nefarious purpose. You really aren't the victim.

Open the ****ing Cancer Pandora. Publicly unmask Livestrong and its real purpose once and for all. Awerness for Lance himself is not a good cause.

 

[GJB123]

Sio don't you guys want to hear the truth about UCI those years?
And if so what are you willing to concede to LA to get that information?

8 years is a lifetime ban by a different name. Not a concession.
It takes two to tango.

It is the constant slagging off of Tygart that really takes the p!ss as far as I am concerned. The guy did his job and in a sterling way and against considerable adversity at that. C'est le ton qua fait la musique and you instrument clearly needs tuning.

 

[peterst6906]

Really?


Open the ****ing Cancer Pandora. Publicly unmask Livestrong and its real purpose once and for all. Awerness for Lance himself is not a good cause.

More for this onwards:

He did, however, try to destroy some people – their finances, their businesses, their reputations, their names. These are the victims of Lance Armstrong, and the only hope is that Winfrey didn't just let Lance brush aside the truly aggrieved parties or the obvious questions.

Armstrong isn't necessarily a bad guy for doping. He is a bad guy for the way he used his immense power, fame and fortune to attempt to ruin anyone who dared to speak the truth to his avalanche of lies.

That was some punk behavior.

So here are some of the questions we hope Oprah asked Lance:

 

[mountainrman]

It is the constant slagging off of Tygart that really takes the p!ss as far as I am concerned. The guy did his job and in s sterling way and against considerable adversity at that. C'est le ton qua fait la musique and you instrument claerly needs tuning.

You did not answer the question.
If you want the truth about UCI and LA to dish the dirt on it, what are you willing to concede to get it? 8 years is not a concession.

It was Tygarts job to strike that deal - and by the accounts of that meeting in Denver he failed. So not such a Sterling job since LA or so we are told by insiders came willing to deal.

What deal would you have done to expose McQuaid and Verb?
2-4 years stood a chance of being agreed, and I would have agreed depending on how much LA agreed to tell.

 

[Fatclimber]

The Wall Street Journal nailed it.

Here.
....
"While in Hawaii, Mr. Armstrong spent time with Ms. Winfrey."

Well, just in case there was even a sliver of hope that something of value might come out of the O-sho, that opportunity was blown to smithereens like armstrong's conscience during his teenage years. He simply cannot participate in anything in which he doesn't have control over. Sheesh. This is going to be embarrassing. Marion Jones take II.

 

[Fatclimber]

You did not answer the question.
If you want the truth about UCI and LA to dish the dirt on it, what are you willing to concede to get it? 8 years is not a concession.

It was Tygarts job to strike that deal - and by the accounts of that meeting in Denver he failed. So not such a Sterling job since LA or so we are told by insiders came willing to deal.

What deal would you have done to expose McQuaid and Verb?
2-4 years stood a chance of being agreed, and I would have agreed depending on how much LA agreed to tell.

There aren't any do-overs this time. For once he has to follow a rule or 2. The very ones his agent helped put into place.

 

[RobbieCanuck]

Any “confession” by LA has to be viewed in its context – cynical, calculating and desperate. Real redemption requires the redeemer to have redeeming qualities of character. Armstrong has none. His fraud is the greatest in sports history. His denials, bullying, hollow lawsuits, in short his behaviour during the period of denial (1993 to present) make this that rare and egregious case where redemption should not be available to a serial liar and cheat.

 

[frenchfry]

Any “confession” by LA has to be viewed in its context – cynical, calculating and desperate. Real redemption requires the redeemer to have redeeming qualities of character. Armstrong has none. His fraud is the greatest in sports history. His denials, bullying, hollow lawsuits, in short his behaviour during the period of denial (1993 to present) make this that rare and egregious case where redemption should not be available to a serial liar and cheat.

And the good news is that the media is following this train of thought.

The "confession" is not working out, and we haven't even seen it yet!