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Semper Fidelis

Semper Fidelis

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Ah ... the Outside Magazine called Men's Journal. Although I understand your confusion since they are both fish wrap.
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Correction MultiColored FishWrap...:eek:

Fish Wrap = black and white type

Multicolored Fish Wrap = anything with colors.

smack 101 :D

"prices and participation may vary"
 
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peacefultribe

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Where to start........First of all, the number of followers that Lance Armstrong has compared to Contador, one of the greatest cyclists of all time, is irrelevant. Contador is a true champion, and a class act, who has everything he needs in life, and always will. He doesn't need to make a spectacle of himself to be happy.

Lance Armstrong, and what he represents, is a shining example of a lot of things that are wrong with the US. Going into detail would take too long, but intelligent people already know what I'm talking about.

As for triathlon, it's sad. Triathlon was once a fun fringe sport that made it to the Olympics. Ironman was a fringe of a fringe that is now a huge moneymaking venture for a core group of individuals who are pretending to be about charity, love, and peace on earth. The Gods of Kona, the big dance, the underware run, and all that fun campy stuff. It is amazing how people follow, and have a need to be a part of something that they feel it greater than themselves. It will never go away, because that is what America has become.

There are some good, normal people, who participate in Ironman because they want to experience an epic adventure that requires work and discipline. They usually do a few of them, then go back to their lives. The Olympic triathletes seem a little more professional, and have Olympic dreams just like athletes in other Olympic sports. They are somewhat more legitimate than the Ironman athletes, which may be why they keep a comparatively lower profile. They don't have a need to shout out their legitimacy in public forums.

I will never knock Lance for his contributions to the fight against cancer. It is admirable. What lessens it in the minds of many is that Lance profits immensely from cancer, and so do many of his corporate partners. Lance also hides behind cancer, and charity, when he behaves like an !@#$#%^. We all know of those incidences, and don't need them rehashed.
 
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THISISIT

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peacefultribe said:
As for triathlon, it's sad...The Gods of Kona, the big dance, the underware run, and all that fun campy stuff. It is amazing how people follow, and have a need to be a part of something that they feel it greater than themselves. It will never go away, because that is what America has become.
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Seems like the Kona people are practically *** raping folks in exchange for a hefty fee. This is what happens when people with more money than sense over-populate a sport.
 
Mr.DNA

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MacRoadie said:
Taken on my way to a ride this evening:

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Personalized license plate? Check (A TRIGUY)
140.6 Decal? Check
"Swim, Ride, Run" decal? Check
"Ironman Finisher" license plate frame? Check
"Em-Dot" decal? Check

DB checklist is complete.:rolleyes:
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These days doing something isn't nearly as important as telling others you did it. I bet A TRIGUY litters Facebook with photos of his restaurant meals.
 
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andy1234

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Race Radio said:
Yeah, before Lance roadies and Tri geeks got along great. It was a lovefest. When somebody showed up on the group ride with their P5, disk wheel, areo bars and seat mounted bottle launchers they were welcomed with open arms.....but no longer. :rolleyes:

Yet another thing Wonderboy has ruined.
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Got it.

You obsess about everything Armstrong does, and comment negatively about everything he is involved in, but beyond that, Armstrong has no influence on you.
 
Benotti69

Benotti69

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peacefultribe said:
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I will never knock Lance for his contributions to the fight against cancer. It is admirable.

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His contribution is nothing compared to the true charities who work for the fight against cancer.

His is the fight to cash in before his star falls.
 
BroDeal

BroDeal

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Mr.DNA said:
These days doing something isn't nearly as important as telling others you did it. I bet A TRIGUY litters Facebook with photos of his restaurant meals.
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I bet he has one of these.

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This is one of the most hilarious things I found about M-Dot races. You can buy your own trophies and people actually do. For the entry fee of six bills the WTC gives you a crappy finisher's t-shirt and crappier flair. So the expo is filled with all sorts of branded M-Dot stuff you can put in your office to impress people. It includes the above trophy, which costs $700. They attach a plaque to the back with your name and event.

That car is classic.
 
Caruut

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peacefultribe said:
I will never knock Lance for his contributions to the fight against cancer. It is admirable. What lessens it in the minds of many is that Lance profits immensely from cancer, and so do many of his corporate partners. Lance also hides behind cancer, and charity, when he behaves like an !@#$#%^. We all know of those incidences, and don't need them rehashed.
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What? His "contributions" have been to plaster his face everywhere and use the suffering and despair of others to make money and provide a shield against criticism. It's like paying for an orphanage and then kidnapping the kids there, but then saying you won't knock him for it, because at least he paid for their meals. You've highlighted exactly why these things should be rehashed. Someone should not be allowed to put up a fake screen of do-goodery in order to avoid facing the consequences of their actions.
 
Caruut

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andy1234 said:
Got it.

You obsess about everything Armstrong does, and comment negatively about everything he is involved in, but beyond that, Armstrong has no influence on you.
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To be fair, it's quite hard to comment positively about much Armstrong is involved in. Besides, you totally failed to respond to the actual point, which was that roadies and triathletes have never exactly been best buds. It's like a brotherly thing - road is obviously the older, wiser, better brother, and tri is the younger brother constantly trying to prove itself.

We all still ride bikes and do endurance sport, but it's not quite the same. Obviously the sports are similar - you get football and rugby hating on each other too ("your sport is full of guys who are too soft, rugby has real man" and "your sport is all about being huge and has no skill"), but deep down they have much more in common with each other than the do with road or tri.
 
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BroDeal said:
I bet he has one of these.

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This is one of the most hilarious things I found about M-Dot races. You can buy your own trophies and people actually do. For the entry fee of six bills the WTC gives you a crappy finisher's t-shirt and an even crappier piece of flair, i.e. a medal. So the expo is filled with all sorts of branded M-Dot stuff you can put in your office to impress people. It includes the above trophy, which costs $700. They attach a plaque to the back with your name and event.
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Wow they have no shame, reminds me of Scientology. Let's take advantage of these weak people and drain them dry of any excess, or not even, cash they might have.

I'm just really disturbed at the moment, if they're making those things there must be somebody out there buying them. I fear for the human race.
 
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andy1234

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Caruut said:
To be fair, it's quite hard to comment positively about much Armstrong is involved in. Besides, you totally failed to respond to the actual point, which was that roadies and triathletes have never exactly been best buds. It's like a brotherly thing - road is obviously the older, wiser, better brother, and tri is the younger brother constantly trying to prove itself.

We all still ride bikes and do endurance sport, but it's not quite the same. Obviously the sports are similar - you get football and rugby hating on each other too ("your sport is full of guys who are too soft, rugby has real man" and "your sport is all about being huge and has no skill"), but deep down they have much more in common with each other than the do with road or tri.
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I'm surprised that this hating of Triathlon hasn't been doing the rounds in the clinic before. It couldn't possibly be because Armstrong is involved could it?
 
Jeremiah

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andy1234 said:
I'm surprised that this hating of Triathlon hasn't been doing the rounds in the clinic before. It couldn't possibly be because Armstrong is involved could it?
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First of all. Armstrong is a jerk. I was speaking to a well know journo the other day and I kinda "challenged" him to find anyone who wouldn't say that about LA and he just laughed.

Second, is it really "hating" Tri? More like Tri is a self parody.
 
BroDeal

BroDeal

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andy1234 said:
I'm surprised that this hating of Triathlon hasn't been doing the rounds in the clinic before. It couldn't possibly be because Armstrong is involved could it?
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In poker this is what is called showing your hand. Now we know that this fool has no clue about cycling culture. I guess they didn't hand out Cliff Notes at the MS150.
 
spetsa

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andy1234 said:
I'm surprised that this hating of Triathlon hasn't been doing the rounds in the clinic before. It couldn't possibly be because Armstrong is involved could it?
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Use the search feature before making ignorant comments. We had much fun at their expence a year ago.
 
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peacefultribe

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Caruut, I understand what you are saying, and believe me, I am no fan of Lance Armstrong. The reality is that he does raise some money for Cancer, and he does inspire some people who suffer from it. The really sad thing is that what you are saying is true. He prostitutes himself in the name of cancer, and his business partners are shameless. I am not fooled by anything that he does, and will never support his charities, or the corporations that align themselves with him.

People around the world, especially in America, are very gullible when it comes to following people who have polarizing personalities.
 
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andy1234

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BroDeal said:
In poker this is what is called showing your hand. Now we know that this fool has no clue about cycling culture. I guess they didn't hand out Cliff Notes at the MS150.
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Yet again, your defensiveness fuels your stupidity.

Why don't we compare our experience of "cycling culture"
Its juvenile, but you brought it up, I double dare ya.....

PS I had to google MS150. Not everyone lives in the US, Homer.
 
Race Radio

Race Radio

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andy1234

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Race Radio

Race Radio

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andy1234 said:
I'm surprised that this hating of Triathlon hasn't been doing the rounds in the clinic before



How many of those were in the clinic again?
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You do know how to use the search function don't you?

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=15986&highlight=triathlon
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=15597&highlight=triathlon
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=10902&highlight=triathlon
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=9457&highlight=triathlon
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=6783&highlight=triathlon
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=15597&highlight=triathlon

Your desperation is showing. It is not the clinic's fault that the myth is dying
 
Polish

Polish

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A car plastered with stickers reveals a high level of passion. Be it Political Stickers or Tree Hugger Stickers or Your a Moran Stickers. Passionate.

And the passion of the triathletes helps them become better athletes.

Lets face it, the average Just to Finish Tri Guy/Gal is a better athlete than the average Just to Finish Charity Rider.

And the average Half Marathon athlete is a better athlete than the average Wednesday Night Worlds rider.

And the Top10 at Kona are better athletes than the Top10 at the Tour.

Better average all around athletes at all levels on average.

I guessing that the average anti-tri road riders have problems processing this fact.
 
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