Lance being Lance

[Caruut]

I'd be willing to bet that as super charged as he is now he could get a top ten at the Tour.

I would take that bet.

 

[JPM London]

I would take that bet.

Or as LA himself would say when hitting Paris "I didn't see who won - I was a bit behind"

 

[Race Radio]

I would take that bet.

It would be a good bet. I doubt he has improved in the last 2 years

23 Lance Armstrong (USA) Team Radioshack

 

[Jeremiah]

I would take that bet.

Or as LA himself would say when hitting Paris "I didn't see who won - I was a bit behind"

It would be a good bet. I doubt he has improved in the last 2 years

I was writing hypothetically as if he had free reign to prepare in cycling as much as he's now preparing in Tri.

I think he's back to 1999 levels in his preparation for events. It just falls under the heading of life extension.

Quick question, why do all these Tri people talk about "nutrition?" Now armstrong is talking in this stupid lingo.

 

[Caruut]

I was writing hypothetically as if he had free reign to prepare in cycling as much as he's now preparing in Tri.

As was I. He's 40 now, and I don't think he'll have got any better than 2 years ago.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

and how's the weather in Austin today?

Yesterday and the day before it was very warm with the Humidity up in the 40% range. Mostly sunny with temperatures steady or falling to near 86F. Winds light and variable.

Today is more of the same but the day’s official high was at 89F...which is extremely warm for this time of year. Winds were variable at or about 3mph out of the south southeast. Air quality is poor.

Expect more of the same in the upcoming week. A real heat wave is building for Memorial Day weekend.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Yesterday and the day before it was very warm with the Humidity up in the 40% range. Mostly sunny with temperatures steady or falling to near 86F. Winds light and variable.

Today is more of the same but the day’s official high was at 89F...which is extremely warm for this time of year. Winds were variable at or about 3mph out of the south southeast. Air quality is poor.

Expect more of the same in the upcoming week. A real heat wave is building for Memorial Day weekend.

ugh. Thankx for the update Glenn
hang in there

how the h$ll do you run and train for a triathlon when the weather is like that

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Watching Lance beat up on age group Tri geeks in his retirement in order to make a few $$ is like seeing some Heavyweight champion become a doorman in Las Vegas

Easy,,,,,I think these guys Maxim Kriat, and Francesc Godoy are not just age groupers. Just saying.

 

[Jeremiah]

As was I. He's 40 now, and I don't think he'll have got any better than 2 years ago.

I was thinking he couldn't prepare as well as he would have liked to in 2010.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

ugh. Thankx for the update Glenn
hang in there

how the h$ll do you run and train for a triathlon when the weather is like that

just in fun mewmewmew13......

I would never train for a triathlon because I hate the sport and do not much care for the participants either...if you know what I mean?

But running in this weather is a challenge. THANK who ever for Body Glide! Serious Life saver!
I have what is known as "the bucket" and it sits on my patio full of Tide detergent some color clorox / water,,,,,that is where my days running shorts, socks, go after the days run. If I did not do it.......the trouble it can cause! Plus I never wash that stuff in my main washing machine. I have another machine just to wash things like that and other bad stuff! hehe

Notice that this LA guy does not even stick around to train in it! He is a wimp and has to go somewhere that has ideal training conditions.

Summer starts around January and ends around January! Seriously there are a few days that are good training weather ...between December and Feb. that is about it.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

I was writing hypothetically as if he had free reign to prepare in cycling as much as he's now preparing in Tri.

I think he's back to 1999 levels in his preparation for events. It just falls under the heading of life extension.

Quick question, why do all these Tri people talk about "nutrition?" Now armstrong is talking in this stupid lingo.

Nutrition …..Because they need to eat during the event in order to keep energy levels up. JUST like in cycling…???? Or are you just jerking my chain?

 

[Jeremiah]

Nutrition …..Because they need to eat during the event in order to keep energy levels up. JUST like in cycling…???? Or are you just jerking my chain?

There's always an element of jerking the chain, but these Tri people are so "precious" about their "nutrition." As if this precise balance is the be all end all and it's going to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Cyclists have been eating something since before Tri even existed.

Pre event nutrition for Frank Shorter was a handful of M&M's and a gin and tonic. During he'd drink some flat coke. Now they need all this junk concocted in a lab run by Bill Romanowski.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

There's always an element of jerking the chain, but these Tri people are so "precious" about their "nutrition." As if this precise balance is the be all end all and it's going to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Cyclists have been eating something since before Tri even existed.

Pre event nutrition for Frank Shorter was a handful of M&M's and a gin and tonic. During he'd drink some flat coke. Now they need all this junk concocted in a lab run by Bill Romanowski.

You are either giving away your age or you read a little bit about runners. Anyhow....Yes about the flat coke. I still use this with my races (Have not raced in a long time though). Open a coca cola the night before race leave it opened overnight put it into a water bottle the morning of the race. Also leave a snickers bar along with this water bottle at mile 20 of a marathon.

Today people will buy anything that someone says gives an edge or is trending. gu / power gel / Encapsulated goat snot. It is all the same pre packaged garbage that will sell to the minions. Sorta like yellow bands..

 

[amp300]

You are either giving away your age or you read a little bit about runners. Anyhow....Yes about the flat coke. I still use this with my races (Have not raced in a long time though). Open a coca cola the night before race leave it opened overnight put it into a water bottle the morning of the race. Also leave a snickers bar along with this water bottle at mile 20 of a marathon.

Today people will buy anything that someone says gives an edge or is trending. gu / power gel / Encapsulated goat snot. It is all the same pre packaged garbage that will sell to the minions. Sorta like yellow bands..

Quite possibly the best "energy bar" ever. Give me a snicker's bar over a power/cliff/encapsulated goat(nice one) snot bar any day.

 

[Anonymous]

Quite possibly the best "energy bar" ever. Give me a snicker's bar over a power/cliff/encapsulated goat(nice one) snot bar any day.

Just don't put it in your jersey pocket on a warm day.

 

[MacRoadie]

ugh. Thankx for the update Glenn
hang in there

how the h$ll do you run and train for a triathlon when the weather is like that

You fly directly from Florida to Kona...

 

[MacRoadie]

Quite possibly the best "energy bar" ever. Give me a snicker's bar over a power/cliff/encapsulated goat(nice one) snot bar any day.

A Snickers bar and a can of Coke will cure even the worst bonk in about 5 minutes....

 

[Merckx index]

A Snickers bar and a can of Coke will cure even the worst bonk in about 5 minutes....

And if you don't bonk, you can use the coke to clean the rust off your chain.

 

[Cloxxki]

I used flat coke also, it was a real hit in MTB racing for the last lap.
I know know that probably putting a single small sugar cube in my mouth would have had the same effect. It's more about the signal to the brain than anything else. You're not going to burn that half a bottle of flat coke on your way to the finish. Runners now sip something sweet, and spit it out, to save the stomach the burden. Point taken, race on.

 

[thehog]

I used flat coke also, it was a real hit in MTB racing for the last lap.
I know know that probably putting a single small sugar cube in my mouth would have had the same effect. It's more about the signal to the brain than anything else. You're not going to burn that half a bottle of flat coke on your way to the finish. Runners now sip something sweet, and spit it out, to save the stomach the burden. Point taken, race on.

Not so much the sugar in coke but the phosphate & caffeine combined. Very useful after hour 3.

 

[L'Etranger]

Easy,,,,,I think these guys Maxim Kriat, and Francesc Godoy are not just age groupers. Just saying.

I agree with this. I think you're on the wrong tack here, RR. It is not that Armstrong is so slow these days that he can barely beat some no-hoper age-group athletes, it's that his performances (or at least some of them, including Sunday) are, for his age and training history, literally unbelievable, in the familiar way. Likewise, the claim that 100th place in the Tour is a better athlete than any triathlete is going over the top. There are not many examples of triathletes trying their luck in cycling or vice versa, but such examples as I can think of off the top of my head (LA in one direction, Udo Bolts in the other) don't exactly confirm that prejudice.

 

[eleven]

Watching Lance beat up on age group Tri geeks in his retirement in order to make a few $$ is like seeing some Heavyweight champion become a doorman in Las Vegas

Age group Tri geeks? That's a nominee for ignorant post of the month.

 

[Jeremiah]

Exactly

I agree with this. I think you're on the wrong tack here, RR. It is not that Armstrong is so slow these days that he can barely beat some no-hoper age-group athletes, it's that his performances (or at least some of them, including Sunday) are, for his age and training history, literally unbelievable, in the familiar way. Likewise, the claim that 100th place in the Tour is a better athlete than any triathlete is going over the top. There are not many examples of triathletes trying their luck in cycling or vice versa, but such examples as I can think of off the top of my head (LA in one direction, Udo Bolts in the other) don't exactly confirm that prejudice.

what I'm thinking.

 

[Race Radio]

Of course Armstrong is doing well. He has a very good swimmer back in the day, clearly can ride, and is a decent runner.

When a Triathlon gets 700,000 people on the side of the road cheering them on and live, global TV then I will believe that the competition level is similar. It isn't, and to pretend it is absurd.

Funny Udo Bolts name should come up. A few weeks ago I was riding with a couple friends, both former Pro Triathletes. One did 8:40 Ironman at 40 and the other top 3 at Kona, twice. They knew Udo well and said he was the hardest, badass mofo they had ever met.

Udo never won a Classic, the Worlds etc.

It is a niche sport inhabited mostly by entrants who "Just want to finish" . There are some amazingly dedicated athletes in Tri but nowhere remotely close to what you get in the Pro Cycling

 

[thehog]

Of course Armstrong is doing well. He has a very good swimmer back in the day, clearly can ride, and is a decent runner.

When a Triathlon gets 700,000 people on the side of the road cheering them on and live, global TV then I will believe that the competition level is similar. It isn't, and to pretend it is absurd.

Funny Udo Bolts name should come up. A few weeks ago I was riding with a couple friends, both former Pro Triathletes. One did 8:40 Ironman at 40 and the other top 3 at Kona, twice. They knew Udo well and said he was the hardest, badass mofo they had ever met.

Udo never won a Classic, the Worlds etc.

It is a niche sport inhabited mostly by entrants who "Just want to finish" . There are some amazingly dedicated athletes in Tri but nowhere remotely close to what you get in the Pro Cycling

Amen.


Couldn't have said it better.