Lance rakes in $2 mil for Down Under

[Berzin]

By the time this race rolls around, Armstrong should be hearing from Mr. Jeff Novitzky, who looks strikingly similar to the lead singer of the Australian rock group Midnight Oil-how's that for irony?

 

[Sydney Sider]

He donated the Livestrong name and all of its goodwill. He was paid 1.995MM it seems not the bloated 2MM number reported in the forum

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...-but-none-for-us/story-e6frea83-1225940386618

Trust me they paid Tiger more to get him there he is a far bigger star but at least he gives back to the locals, oh yeah!

Im sure Tiger donated quite a bit of sperm while he was here

 

[rgmerk]

How much would Cav cost?

If the TDU is a sprinters' race, well, how much would it cost to get the best sprinter in the world out here?

Cav is:

a) good value in the media
b) a native English speaker,
c) is a Pom (well, a Manxman, but close enough to be hateable)
and d) loves to win.

Pay him half a million dollars in appearance money, and spread the other one and a half million in stage and GC prizes to motivate the leadout trains.

 

[Ferminal]

Jonker at it again...... We had to spend 2million because the axis of evil would have kidnapped Lance! True!

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/lance...-tour-down-under/story-e6frea6u-1225942863539

Close friend Patrick Jonker said Armstrong had offers from cashed-up Tour of Qatar officials before deciding*on SA.

"The Tour of Qatar, they have an unlimited budget," Jonker said.

"They're a bunch of billionaire sheiks and they would have offered him a bucketload of money to race the Tour of Qatar - it's just a few days after the Tour Down Under.

"But you look at the Tour of Qatar and the course is boring. It's sandy, it's dangerous. The attraction for Adelaide, it's a comfortable, safe place to race, not many crashes here. Everything about it, Lance enjoyed."

Jonker is an absolute clown.

"The course is boring".

What, and the TdU's course is superior to Paris-Nice?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

He donated the Livestrong name and all of its goodwill. He was paid 1.995MM it seems not the bloated 2MM number reported in the forum

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...-but-none-for-us/story-e6frea83-1225940386618

Trust me they paid Tiger more to get him there he is a far bigger star but at least he gives back to the locals, oh yeah!

The Livestrong name, eh?

You do realise the 'charity' is called the Lance Armstrong Foundation - Livestrong is a brand from which he now profits.

Also the building - that Lance was so busy being associated with - they did not actually start building it until last August. Even though there is a shortfall in funding for it - it did not receive any monetery 'donation' from Livestrong (either the for & non profit). I am sure they would have preferred the $1.995 million each year given to LA.

How much was Tiger paid - and did Tiger or the government pretend that any fee paid was going to a charity?

 

[auscyclefan94]

Tourism Australia managing director Andrew McEvoy, who headed SA Tourism Commission when Armstrong first rode in SA, said the deal to get Armstrong back for a third time was significant.

"In his first year with the Tour Down Under, he doubled its economic value," he said. "South Australia is his favourite place in the country.

LOL

South Australia/Adelaide is a hellhole. Worst place in the country by a country mile.

That's a little over the top. It isn't my favourite Australian city but it isn't too bad.

Anyway, I might be going to the tour down under next year so what should I say to Lance?

 

[hughmoore]

If the TDU is a sprinters' race, well, how much would it cost to get the best sprinter in the world out here?

Cav is:

a) good value in the media
b) a native English speaker,
c) is a Pom (well, a Manxman, but close enough to be hateable)
and d) loves to win.

Pay him half a million dollars in appearance money, and spread the other one and a half million in stage and GC prizes to motivate the leadout trains.

Why would we want to pay Cav, he is a POM, would rather give the money to Andre Greipal.

Secondly, dont think Cav is gonna generate as much interest as Armstrong.

Regards


Hugh

 

[thehog]

I still smell a rat; Theres more in this but we'll find out soon enough. You can't hide government payments forever. The Tour Qatar race organisers will come out and say they were never going to invite Armstrong. All of this doesn't sit right.

...

Armstrong announces his last race in the southern hemisphere
Armstrong announces his last race in the US east of the Mississippi
Armstrong announces his last race west of the Mississippi over three days long
Armstrong announces he's just going out for a ride

 

[SpartacusRox]

You said "it would appear that the LAF has donated money across Australia".

Can you show somewhere that the LAF has actually donated money in Australia.
Also $350 million for cancer RESEARCH - have you not read the Livestong site. Little of there funds goes to research.

Also - I don't remember Tiger Woods saying he was not getting paid or the SA government saying they were donating to a charity, as they did with LA.

I said, 'it would appear' because I was taking this information from the Adelaide news article link in the original post where it stated:

"Yet despite the taxpayer contribution to Mr Armstrong's personal wealth, his cancer charity Livestrong has overlooked South Australia to donate to cancer centres in other states."

Regardless of the actual amount that goes into research versus the amounts used for canvassing governments for increased research funding is really not the issue. The reality is that the foundation has done a great deal in pushing for more to be done internationally to fight the disease.

I can't comment on what the SA government said or didn't say. Also i don't know what Armstrong did with any monies he received. He may well have donated it to LAF or he may have just banked it.

 

[NickBVK]

If the TDU is a sprinters' race, well, how much would it cost to get the best sprinter in the world out here?

Cav is:

a) good value in the media
b) a native English speaker,
c) is a Pom (well, a Manxman, but close enough to be hateable)
and d) loves to win.

Pay him half a million dollars in appearance money, and spread the other one and a half million in stage and GC prizes to motivate the leadout trains.

There'll be enough Poms here over the summer, we don't need another!

 

[ultimobici]

I said, 'it would appear' because I was taking this information from the Adelaide news article link in the original post where it stated:

"Yet despite the taxpayer contribution to Mr Armstrong's personal wealth, his cancer charity Livestrong has overlooked South Australia to donate to cancer centres in other states."

Regardless of the actual amount that goes into research versus the amounts used for canvassing governments for increased research funding is really not the issue. The reality is that the foundation has done a great deal in pushing for more to be done internationally to fight the disease.

I can't comment on what the SA government said or didn't say. Also i don't know what Armstrong did with any monies he received. He may well have donated it to LAF or he may have just banked it.

He stated that the money was his appearance fee when its charity status was queried originally.

Livestrong/LAF has raised $325m according to their own site Of that virtually none is for research. Livestrong and its predecessor LAF exist to promote cancer awareness and provide moral support to those afflicted with the disease.

To put the contribution into perspective, Cancer Research UK spent £335M in one year on research. That's more in one year than LAF has raised in 13!

As far as I can tell none of the appearance fees he has received have been rebated back to LAF/Livestrong or the communities that have paid for his presence.

 

[Sasquatch]

That's a little over the top. It isn't my favourite Australian city but it isn't too bad.

Anyway, I might be going to the tour down under next year so what should I say to Lance?

Mate, it's full of bogans. Collingwood supporters are tamer.

What should you say to Lance? Tell him to finally have balls to tell the truth.

 

[Sydney Sider]

I still smell a rat; Theres more in this but we'll find out soon enough. You can't hide government payments forever. The Tour Qatar race organisers will come out and say they were never going to invite Armstrong. All of this doesn't sit right.

...

Armstrong announces his last race in the southern hemisphere
Armstrong announces his last race in the US east of the Mississippi
Armstrong announces his last race west of the Mississippi over three days long
Armstrong announces he's just going out for a ride

they are called Gerbals , not Rats

 

[Ferminal]

What should you say to Lance? Tell him to finally have balls to tell the truth.

That could be a problem.

 

[craig1985]

Perhaps the people in SA should voted in somebody other then Mike Rann last year.

 

[Digger]

Yeah , it's interesting that people only seems to take offence at Lance being paid appearance money but it seems to be fine if other top sports people do it.

Even if the original poster is right, it would appear that the LAF has donated money across Australia. How much money did Tiger donate i wonder...maybe a few bucks to the prostitutes collective??

Even a recent article quoted in another thread stated that LAF has raised $350 million for cancer research. What other sportsperson has even come close to doing that?

I couldn't give a toss if Lance recieved $2 or $2 million dollars, he is entitled to whatever he can negotiate.
Seems to me that there are a lot of whiners on here for whom it really rankles that Lance is actually doing something good for humanity outside of cycling and they don't like it. Why not? Well if you have a view of someone as a sociopath, then it doesn't quite fit that model if they are exhibiting humanitarian tendencies. So what do you do to reshape your view? Well you just twist the story so it appears that the person is only doing it for ego and to remain in the spotlight. You downplay the worth by quiblling about actual dollars raised and you claim that they are somehow being fraudulent in spending hundreds of hours each year travelling and working to raise funds...because that is somehow so much easier to do than sitting at home and enjoying their wealth as most of us would do.

This one's on the house - well clearly it is not. Going there to raise cancer awareness but taking 2m in appearance fees for his own personal gain. Classy.

 

[Sasquatch]

Perhaps the people in SA should voted in somebody other then Mike Rann last year.

They aren't that clever in 'Coopers' land. They don't like change. Rann will be there for another 10 years.

 

[thehog]

they are called Gerbals , not Rats

Many thanks,

theHog.

 

[craig1985]

They aren't that clever in 'Coopers' land. They don't like change. Rann will be there for another 10 years.

I live in Queensland so I'm not one to judge. Plenty of lack jawed yokels in outback Queensland:

 

[auscyclefan94]

Perhaps the people in SA should voted in somebody other then Mike Rann last year.

Now we agree on something! I gave him an abusive tweet the other day!

I live in Queensland so I'm not one to judge. Plenty of lack jawed yokels in outback Queensland:

Yes and you lot always have to say "ay" after every sentence.

 

[M Sport]

What I want to know is while Pharmstrong is here for the race next year do CA sit down and interview him regarding the Matt White enquiry. That's what's supposed to happen isn't it?

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cycl...-probe-floyd-landis-claims-20100527-wf7o.html

 

[ultimobici]

I'm reading a lot of moaning about Lance getting an appearance fee. This is how a good promoter builds a big race. In anything that is star driven, golf, cycling, political speeches, basketball, etc... attendance goes up when famous people participate. A shrewd promoter knows this and figures the best way to get the biggest names to their events. Especially when you run an obscure event in January in a remote part of the world. In this case, I would say it is money well spent. If Lance had never ridden this race, we would not be writing about it.

You are still allowed to hate Lance to satisfy whatever agendas you have but just know having Lance appear in Australia is good business.

Bit of a harsh statement. To call TdU an obscure event is inaccurate to say the least. It has been the race that kicks off many riders' seasons without them having to put up with the vagaries of the European weather. LA has been a extra draw of late but it's not like the race was in dire need of his patronage, is it?

 

[JRTinMA]

The Livestrong name, eh?

You do realise the 'charity' is called the Lance Armstrong Foundation - Livestrong is a brand from which he now profits.

Also the building - that Lance was so busy being associated with - they did not actually start building it until last August. Even though there is a shortfall in funding for it - it did not receive any monetery 'donation' from Livestrong (either the for & non profit). I am sure they would have preferred the $1.995 million each year given to LA.

How much was Tiger paid - and did Tiger or the government pretend that any fee paid was going to a charity?

I really don't care what Livestrong is exactly, I was pointing out the fact stated in the article that he donated the Livestrong name to the building. Whats so difficult to understand? It clearly has some value in goodwill or the government of Australia would not have done the deal. I don't know anything about LA's businesses and it appears you track him closely but if he donated the name of a for profit business that would seem a significant donation. The Australian government saw the goodwill associated with it.

Buildings start late all the time, so what. I have no idea how a hospital or state funded research building works in Australia but i know well that in the US a hospital would not start building if it was not funded. I suspect it may have started late due to funding issues but it was not started with incomplete funds as you state.

Somebody else stated Tiger was paid 3MM, no link as usual like you. I could not find anyplace that the government pretended to make a donation and paid LA directly although I have seen it stated several times in this thread.

 

[Ferminal]

I really don't care what Livestrong is exactly, I was pointing out the fact stated in the article that he donated the Livestrong name to the building. Whats so difficult to understand? It clearly has some value in goodwill or the government of Australia would not have done the deal. I don't know anything about LA's businesses and it appears you track him closely but if he donated the name of a for profit business that would seem a significant donation. The Australian government saw the goodwill associated with it.

Buildings start late all the time, so what. I have no idea how a hospital or state funded research building works in Australia but i know well that in the US a hospital would not start building if it was not funded. I suspect it may have started late due to funding issues but it was not started with incomplete funds as you state.

Somebody else stated Tiger was paid 3MM, no link as usual like you. I could not find anyplace that the government pretended to make a donation and paid LA directly although I have seen it stated several times in this thread.

How did he "donate" the name?

If anything, he should be paying the medical centre for naming rights.

As far as I'm aware from the media reports earlier this year, Rann (SA government, nothing to do with the Australian government) decided to name it "in honour" of his mate Lance.

 

[JRTinMA]

How did he "donate" the name?

If anything, he should be paying the government for naming rights.

It must have some value in goodwill. It sounds completely idiotic but thats what has been reported. The deal must have been done by some really smart people or there is more than we know. I suspect the latter.