Lance the Bully

[Microchip]

If it's relevant, I hope USADA included Armstrong's attempt to surreptitiously buy controlling interests in Greg Lemond's training cycles.

 

[DominicDecoco]

Why on earth were these threats not saved as evidence. He's been handling them out everywhere it seems.

 

[Microchip]

I think bullies are almost always cowards as well.

 

[thehog]

I think bullies are almost always cowards as well.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012...ng-usada-outlines-witness-intimidation_256702

 

[MellowJohnny]

I know my username won't sound as if I'm neutral about this whole debate but I really am. Its just that Armstrong got me into ProCycling and I'm hooked,

I believe that he always had the Livestrong foundation to hide behind, Ullrich, Pantani, Virenque did not.

Question, if he was still using substances in 09, why/how did Contador and Schleck still beat him, did age finally catch up?

Also will other federations be going after Armstrong connected riders, Popovych etc?

 

[mewmewmew13]

I think bullies are almost always cowards as well.

This is so true!

 

[coinneach]

Good luck Mellow Jonny; I hope you can find some use for all your cycling jerseys.
Drugs don't make that much difference, sometimes they don't even help at all....sometimes they might even give you cancer, but sometimes they can lift you from a nobody to a somebody.
It's a Faustian bargain, better just known as cheating

 

[Big Daddy]

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012...ng-usada-outlines-witness-intimidation_256702

Wow! Great article. I only wish that the federal investigation papers were made public. I am guessing that there is as much, if not more, evidence to show how vindictive an a--hole Lance Armstrong truly is.

 

[MellowJohnny]

Good luck Mellow Jonny; I hope you can find some use for all your cycling jerseys.
Drugs don't make that much difference, sometimes they don't even help at all....sometimes they might even give you cancer, but sometimes they can lift you from a nobody to a somebody.
It's a Faustian bargain, better just known as cheating

Haha - cheers, but I don't have any team jerseys, bar a HTC highroad one (they were my boys)

 

[trailrunner]

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012...ng-usada-outlines-witness-intimidation_256702

This quote really got to me:

One journalist recalled Simeoni’s face — it was wet with both his tears and the spit of the peloton.

What a bunch of sick *******s.

 

[D-Queued]

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012...ng-usada-outlines-witness-intimidation_256702

good piece

Thanks for bumping this thread.

Ultimately, this is what defines Lance.

Dave.

 

[thehog]

Wow! Great article. I only wish that the federal investigation papers were made public. I am guessing that there is as much, if not more, evidence to show how vindictive an a--hole Lance Armstrong truly is.

The comments are impressive. From people with real names:

I would like to meet him in a bar- alone, one on one. Game over for him. Since Landis has to repay all the money from his own doping, shouln't Armstrong have to too? This is the cyclist version of Al Capone, or maybe Charles Manson, or both!

I read the article today & it's past sick...ALL the YEARS he lied (even still) & ppl who aided him...smh. I want a refund for every "LIVESTRONG" armband that I purchased over the years!

He should never be allowed to compete in any organized event again. Even smallish triathlons. He was a bad loser in Panama which exemplifies the behavior described in this article. Others are coming clean for whatever reason but Lance is absolutely ruthless.

This is just unbelievable. If all of this was out there then that is surely the reason that LA waived his chance for arbitration but he had to know that this report would get released. It's starting to look like he had no good options on the table. Either waive arbitration and hope the whole thing goes away, or fess up as a liar and a cheat

he did do something to us avid cycling fans: he made us think this was a once in a lifetime feel good story of recovery and sporting success. He has ****ed that all up, at least for me. I don't watch cycling hardly anymore, and he is a big reason. All the optimism when he did the tdf 1999, especially after the crap *** 98' version made all fans excited. I wasted a lot of time watching those tours with that moron, and yes, it starts with him. And his continued denial just angers every fan even more.

Lance, what is left there to destroy? Yourself? Self-destruction? Go ahead...

This is the part about Lance that I find completely disgusting. Yes, he won doped against dopers. He probably would have been as good without PEDs in a clean peloton. For doping I hold no ill will against Lance. But the dirty pool he played covering it up harmed many others telling the truth. For that he deserves the onslaught of civil suits that are sure to come in the following years. I hope he is crushed by legal fees and settlements and ends up alone and broke.

 

[MatParker117]

What a ridiculous man Lance Armstrong is.

 

[D Avoid]

Well this tells you where the money goes.

http://blog.livestrong.org/2011/05/02/where-the-money-goes/

81% for charitable services is quite good.

"At the foundation, more than $245 million (81% of each dollar spent) has been invested directly in cancer programs, initiatives, and advocacy efforts to change the way the world fights cancer."

Directing hate for Lance is one thing, but you shouldn't direct hate for Livestrong. Probably no one in this forum could start a charity and raise 245 million for cancer related services programs. I mean that's pretty unreal especially considering that Livestrong hasn't been around for that long.

I'm not sure if this is killing myself laff in, or just you on the quiet?

 

[Race Radio]

Simeoni: "Armstrong and past still haunt me"

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/simeoni-armstrong-and-past-still-haunt-me

Frankie

"There's more riders, more people out there, talking about what happened in the past, and I'm not standing out there by myself as a lone figure getting ripped apart by Lance Armstrong while everyone sits back and watches."

"(Armstrong has) been so aggressive towards (my wife) Betsy and so aggressive in his nature and his influence with everything that he's done,"

http://www.lethbridgeherald.com/nat...das-report-on-armstrongs-doping-20121012.html

Betsy

Standing up to Armstrong has cost the couple thousands of dollars in legal fees. Betsy Andreu has even received ugly threats.
“I hope somebody breaks a baseball bat over your head,” a friend of Armstrong’s who worked for one of his sponsors said in a 2008 voicemail that was turned over to federal investigators.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/lance-pedaling-lies-article-1.1181408

 

[Race Radio]

When Frankie told the truth what happened?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/s...ling.html?scp=1&sq=frankie+andreu&st=nyt&_r=0

They threaten to sue him

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

When Frankie told the truth what happened?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/s...ling.html?scp=1&sq=frankie+andreu&st=nyt&_r=0

They threaten to sue him

Nice bump. Thanks.

 

[Indurain]

Do you think a guys like Armstrong really cares about others. He wouldn't be doing his foundation unless there was something in it for him. My guess is that it is a tax haven for him number 1. 2nd, his advocacy and awareness efforts also may include lavish parties where the word cancer might be mentioned a few times. Bono from U2 recently came under fire for similar things.

Psychopaths like Armstrong don't do anything unless there is something in it for them. He is a con to the bone.