Landis letter re drug use in cycling

[wattage]

i am still trying to work out why 'the shack' published that string of emails on their website?

I think because they are scared, they don't really know what Floyd has to back his story.

 

[Hillavoider]

i am still trying to work out why 'the shack' published that string of emails on their website?

the only defense they have is floyds mental state and they are hoping the emails will show up a desperate man.

 

[wattage]

the only defense they have is floyds mental state and they are hoping the emails will show up a desperate man.

Which they didn't. That totally backfired on them, the emails actually show totally reasonable and smart guy.

 

[craig1985]

The e-mail that caused cancer:

http://nyvelocity.com/toto

 

[sars1981]

The e-mail that caused cancer:

http://nyvelocity.com/toto

"I have 10 cell phones strapped to my balls, if I can catch cancer by the end of the day this will all blow over"

 

[fruit bars with eyes]

The e-mail that caused cancer:

http://nyvelocity.com/toto

These are class- did the broken bus incident take place ? Does the Pope Greipel in the woods?

 

[RTMcFadden]

im just wondering..

is it possible that the 2006 positive for testosterone WAS a stitch up, and he was genuine in his claims that he did not take testosterone that tour. Could he have already started making veiled threats to lance about one day revealing what went on at postal and the uci did lances dirty work for him

far fetched.. but then after this last week anything is possible

Yes. I''ve been saying this for a while. I looked at the raw data from an analytlical perspective and called bullsh*t a long time ago. it just doesn't make sense.

 

[craig1985]

Too bad I don't have the issue, but in a 2006 edition of Bicycling Australia (post Tour de France), a scientist wrote an article and basically debunked every possible theory/excuse that Floyd came up with and more or less came to the conclusion (as in how I read it) "Floyd, mate, you cheated, stop the bull****".

 

[Cerberus]

Too bad I don't have the issue, but in a 2006 edition of Bicycling Australia (post Tour de France), a scientist wrote an article and basically debunked every possible theory/excuse that Floyd came up with and more or less came to the conclusion (as in how I read it) "Floyd, mate, you cheated, stop the bull****".

But RTMcFadden says the evidence doesn't hold water, surely his opinion has more weight that some scientist guy!

 

[RTMcFadden]

But RTMcFadden says the evidence doesn't hold water, surely his opinion has more weight that some scientist guy!

I am a scientist, a Biochemist that spent the ealier part of my career as an analytical method development chemist for one of the largest pharamceutical companies in the world.

 

[python]

But RTMcFadden says the evidence doesn't hold water, surely his opinion has more weight that some scientist guy!

he has discredited himself in here too many times to be taken seriously. he personally concluded lndd spiking armstrong's samples whilst he 'could not find anywhere' the basis for epo test positivity criteria - something that's been in public domain for almost 10 years.

 

[Cerberus]

I am a scientist, a Biochemist that spent the ealier part of my career as an analytical method development chemist for one of the largest pharamceutical companies in the world.

Oh, ok. Let me uncritically accept everything you say then.

 

[Roland Rat]

So many threads it's getting hard to know where to post things now. Anyway:

It's Getting Harder To Lance This Festering Boil:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2010/0524/1224271011205.html

 

[RTMcFadden]

he has discredited himself in here too many times to be taken seriously. he personally concluded lndd spiking armstrong's samples whilst he 'could not find anywhere' the basis for epo test positivity criteria - something that's been in public domain for almost 10 years.

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Although, if you review the record, you were the one who said spiking the samples were impossible, whereas the record (TD2004EPO, verions 1.0) establishes that it has been both know and practiced by WADA since 2004.

 

[Race Radio]

Oh, ok. Let me uncritically accept everything you say then.

That would be a mistake

 

[thehog]

So many threads it's getting hard to know where to post things now. Anyway:

It's Getting Harder To Lance This Festering Boil:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2010/0524/1224271011205.html

Injuries now worse than orginally thought...

Stapleton also said Armstrong's injuries from his crash in Thursday's stage of the Tour of California were more serious than originally surmised.

"His (left) eye looks pretty bad, the cut goes from the bottom of his eyelid to his nose. He may have to see the surgeon again before he leaves for next week's Tour of Luxembourg."

 

[Race Radio]

Python, our conversations have clearly established that you are a cookbook chemist. Go back to your menial job in the medical lab and leave the science to those who understand it.

Although, if you review the record, you were the one who said spiking the samples were impossible, whereas the record (TDEPO2004, verions 1.0) establishes that it has been both know and practiced by WADA since 2004.

You have been embarrassed so many times here by "cookbook chemist" I am surprised you still post. The fact that you continue to pretend that Landis was clean for the 2006 Tour speaks volumes.

 

[python]

Python, our conversations have clearly established that you are a cookbook chemist. Go back to your menial job in the medical lab and leave the science to those who understand it.

Although, if you review the record, you were the one who said spiking the samples were impossible, whereas the record (TDEPO2004, verions 1.0) establishes that it has been both know and practiced by WADA since 2004.

rtmcfadden, go back to your cluelesness and stop misinforming people here by puffing your chest. the record that you have no clue about epo test is there. anyone can search and find it. i have shown several times that you are either intentionally trying to misinform or are incompetent to interpret certain things.

i could care less where you worked and what claims you made about yourself,
you posted several falsehood that are easily countered by publicly available facts.

you attributed to me and other people statements they did not make whilst actively promoting that the french spiked armstrong samples.

when faced with hard questions about the actual epo test you showed your ignorance and incompetence.

that's why you have no credibility with me.

 

[RTMcFadden]

You have been embarrassed so many times here by "cookbook chemist" I am surprised you still post.

Surely you jest. Rest assured that the object of you and your bully brigade to run me off this site will never be realized.

The fact that you continue to pretend that Landis was clean for the 2006 Tour speaks volumes.

I never said that Landis didn't dope. I said the analytical conclusion was incorrect.

 

[eljimberino]

"In the end Lance lives within the bubble of cycling, a world which must defend him because were he to fall nobody could believe in cycling again for decades. They must shield him and nod when he bullies people and they must honour him as if they have never had the slightest shred of suspicion. He is the meal ticket. You don’t ask if your meal ticket is counterfeit."

Funny. Everyone thought he was in control. Somehow he became bigger than the sport itself. He became the judiciary and the executive, while the legislative was 10 years behind. By expanding the 'bubble of cycling' he has also expanded the repertoire and skills of the legislative, simultaneously losing his grip on the judiciary: us. Armstrongs story may eventually be sadder than Andreu, Manuel Beltran, Floyd Landis, Roberto Heras and Tyler Hamilton all put together.

 

[eleven]

You have been embarrassed so many times here by "cookbook chemist" I am surprised you still post. The fact that you continue to pretend that Landis was clean for the 2006 Tour speaks volumes.

Huh? Landis still claims that the 2006 test was a false positive. Now that he's the fount of truth, why don't you believe him?

 

[python]

Huh? Landis still claims that the 2006 test was a false positive. Now that he's the fount of truth, why don't you believe him?

because landis may still be trying to protect those pseudo scientist (like the one that's popped up here) if they are to help him with future trails and counter suits

 

[karlboss]

I have little doubt he believes it was a false positive...I doped like a mofo that day, but with my own blood not testosterone....oh yeah i was on testosterone at the time the blood was taken to help recovery. s&%t

 

[eleven]

because landis may still be trying to protect those pseudo scientist (like the one that's popped up here) if they are to help him with future trails and counter suits

It's really bizarre to me. The only explanations I can think of are:

1. He's afraid of a perjury charge (but it wasn't a criminal trial, so I don't really see that being a possibility)

2. He's protecting the doctors and scientists who cooked up his "defense"

3. He's so far down the rabbit-hole on the issue that he actually believes it (Stranger things have happened in to the human psyche)

Could also be that his test was spiked (as has been claimed here) or that the test actually WAS a false positive. I don't think either of those is a possible explanation at all.

 

[Race Radio]

Surely you jest. Rest assured that the object of you and your bully brigade to run me off this site will never be realized.

Are you kidding? I don't want you to leave, your posts are comedy gold!