Landis letter re drug use in cycling

[Colm.Murphy]

As Landis' letter cites a "Duffy", Johan's assistant, he is still part of the Johann/Lance world.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/inside-the-team-radioshack-service-course

 

[sportzchick]

lmao!
Seriously I think to clean the sport once and for all is to offer immunity for the first couple of riders

Alos I think the UCI needs to either be cleaned up or dismantled and we start again....

 

[ExRower]

"Chef" Duffy takes care of their food AFAIK. If he is privy to dope, shouldn't other staff members be interviewed as well? I would think that Julien Devries should have "seen" something considering the number of years he has worked with the Hog and his band of merry men.

 

[rata de sentina]

Well, I do not know this Coolhand, but the postulate is reasonable - namley that all that PED use could mess with one's head. We may not all agree with it, but that does not make it bad or wrong.

Perhaps, but given Professor Coolhands reputation in the medical area it´s not credible.

 

[laziali]

Well that is not a given. Right now I just hear one person's word against another. Whilst Armstrong may have lied in his past, there is no doubt Landis did, and he did so publically and repeatedly, and also took their money. He does not possess any real credibility.

Actualy, Ginseng, you don't. You hear Floyd, the Andreu's, Steven Swart, Lance's former masseuse (Emma something) and Lance's former personal assistant. That 6 people claiming direct, not circumstantial, eyewitness evidence. And it sounds as though Kik Armstrong and two other former USPS riders are going to corroborate Landis.

You fanboys are so naive ...

 

[craig1985]

Actualy, Ginseng, you don't. You hear Floyd, the Andreu's, Steven Swart, Lance's former masseuse (Emma something) and Lance's former personal assistant. That 6 people claiming direct, not circumstantial, eyewitness evidence. And it sounds as though Kik Armstrong and two other former USPS riders are going to corroborate Landis.

You fanboys are so naive ...

It's BPC for crying out loud.

 

[D Avoid]

Over in Eurp, we have enacted a law with regard to the proceeds of crime, is their an equivalent in the Untied Slates, so that when the storm comes we will be able to see inside Fortress Twance A Lot?

It is not good enough to clamp one nut, we need to extract everything he has had from his ilgotten train. He has after all done exactly this to any and every person who got in his way. We need John Wayne and a big pussy of men to go out their and save Ourmerica before the Injustices cycle the wagons. It is never to late to make this movie or if production costs are to high, we could do it as "Big Mudda" live and kicking the $£$£& out each other, Greg, Lance, Pat, Jig Ban, Sean, Pigget, Floyd, Chav'n'Wish(for the young 'uns), Failure Thinney, Yourinfukinov Trouble (as the baddy),Lipochini, Bom Toonen(for the relaxents), Rob me were Queueing, Davy Millar (deformed bad guy).

Just a question of getting the backing, I know a recently forced retiree who might like it, we might need a name change to get him in.

"Damn it, Charmsgone".

The byline: " Who moved the Gold Coast".

 

[gjdavis60]

Theswordsman, are you American? Your imagination seems to be running somewhat amok in regards to how these things work. It is not going to be anything like the TV shows you mention.

No, it's going to be like the BALCO investigation. Do some reading.

 

[Jamsque]

So... did the expected Landis/FDA press conference actually happen yesterday or what?

 

[Race Radio]

As Landis' letter cites a "Duffy", Johan's assistant, he is still part of the Johann/Lance world.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/inside-the-team-radioshack-service-course

At the very least Duffy should be arrested for wearing those pants

 

[Race Radio]

Unintelligible troll babble

How many times have you been banned now? It must be over 40 usernames by now.

There must be some type of medication that can help you with this issue

 

[Ferminal]

At the very least Duffy should be arrested for wearing those pants

Simply suggesting that means that you love cancer, he has a yellow wristband.

 

[laziali]

It's BPC for crying out loud.

Thanks Craig - just realised BPC = that banned "BanProCycling" troll. My apologies for feeding it.

 

[bobs nob]

At the very least Duffy should be arrested for wearing those pants

Tucking in a tshirt is ALWAYS a no no.

 

[Ripper]

At the very least Duffy should be arrested for wearing those pants

LMFAO! That is just a wonderful pic!

Back to watching the Giro I go now ...

 

[thehog]

Tucking in a tshirt is ALWAYS a no no.

Think Duffy was slipping some of the 'product' for himself. That body shape is all out of whack! Ugly man.

The Hog & the Horse - The story of Bruyneel & Duffy & how they won the Tour on chemicals alone.

 

[patricknd]

To answer your last question first, if Armstrong is found guilty, then he should have some or all of his victories removed and he might deserve to be arrested and imprisoned. I would feel the same as always when this happens to an athlete for cheating - sad that they cheated, glad they were caught, and a bit cynical in the processes.

Everything right now about what Floyd is saying behind closed doors is just rumour. Other people coming forward is, right now, rumor. Until this giant wave everyone thinks is going to happen actually happens, it is ... nothing.

reminds me a little of the international arrest warrant issue a few months ago, although i think this has more legs under it. too much speculation at this point, and press reports are always a little suspect. however i don't think this will just fade away. this feels like it has some momentum.

 

[D Avoid]

Typing and washing your hair at the same time.

Dan Craven is leading in Ireland, ten man break, two minutes up , 3:45 on the main bunch

 

[D Avoid]

lmao!
Seriously I think to clean the sport once and for all is to offer immunity for the first couple of riders

....

Maybe they could stretch it to three, in every race. It would be a shame to have photos with one, probably third, in a strop, it's never happened before.

That way the best cheats, if they win, will always remain clean. I can't believe that a couple of hours sleep can solve everything, I'm off to help myself to the Do chess of Pork.

 

[Cal_Joe]

For a taste of what the mainstream press is reporting, here is an article from the front page of today's LA times. Included are quotes from this thread....

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-floyd-landis-20100523,0,3344699,full.story

 

[DAOTEC]

Verbruggen & Mc Quaid in duet

Interesting Cyclingweekly today

Confusion over payment Armstrong made to UCI for a Sysmex machine

Armstrong told Cycling Weekly that the payment made in 2005, before he retired, was around $25,000. McQuaid admitted on Irish radio on Thursday that it was in fact $100,000 - $88,000 of which was spent on a Sysmex machine, a piece of equipment used to analyse blood. In an email to CW in December 2008, McQuaid said Armstrong's donation was spent exclusively on the Sysmex machine. Now McQuaid admits that there was a surplus of $12,000 and the UCI has not declared what happened to this money.

In November and December 2008, Cycling Weekly was engaged in an email exchange with Pat McQuaid to ask about the decision to waive the rule. In the interests of transparency, CW asked whether the UCI's decision had been in any way influenced by the fact Armstrong had donated money to them in the past. McQuaid strongly denied any suggestion.

Landis claim
The UCI appeared to believe Landis was saying that the incident had taken place at the 2002 Tour of Switzerland, and pointed out that Armstrong did not ride that race. However, it is clear in the email that Landis was referring to 2001 - the year after the EPO test was introduced. Armstrong won the Tour of Switzerland in 2001.

Asked on Thursday if he had ever paid the UCI any money, Armstrong said: "Absolutely not."

Great stuff and in full length from CW:http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/470339/confusion-over-payment-armstrong-made-to-uci-for-a-sysmex-machine.html

 

[gloryb141]

Occam's Razor is one of those terms that people just love to trot out when they actually don't understand it at all, kind of like quantum uncertainty.

What Occam's Razor actually states is that "Entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity"

Well then, we could use some Occam's Razor in this thead! :0)

 

[thehog]

Interesting Cyclingweekly today

Confusion over payment Armstrong made to UCI for a Sysmex machine

Armstrong told Cycling Weekly that the payment made in 2005, before he retired, was around $25,000. McQuaid admitted on Irish radio on Thursday that it was in fact $100,000 - $88,000 of which was spent on a Sysmex machine, a piece of equipment used to analyse blood. In an email to CW in December 2008, McQuaid said Armstrong's donation was spent exclusively on the Sysmex machine. Now McQuaid admits that there was a surplus of $12,000 and the UCI has not declared what happened to this money.

In November and December 2008, Cycling Weekly was engaged in an email exchange with Pat McQuaid to ask about the decision to waive the rule. In the interests of transparency, CW asked whether the UCI's decision had been in any way influenced by the fact Armstrong had donated money to them in the past. McQuaid strongly denied any suggestion.

Landis claim
The UCI appeared to believe Landis was saying that the incident had taken place at the 2002 Tour of Switzerland, and pointed out that Armstrong did not ride that race. However, it is clear in the email that Landis was referring to 2001 - the year after the EPO test was introduced. Armstrong won the Tour of Switzerland in 2001.

Asked on Thursday if he had ever paid the UCI any money, Armstrong said: "Absolutely not."

Great stuff and in full length from CW:http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/470339/confusion-over-payment-armstrong-made-to-uci-for-a-sysmex-machine.html

At the SCA hearings Armstrong said it was around 500,000USD. Armstrong stated he never had a receipt for the money nor knew what happened to it. Alan Rumpf accepted the money on behalf of the UCI.

 

[red_flanders]

At the SCA hearings Armstrong said it was around 500,000USD. Armstrong stated he never had a receipt for the money nor knew what happened to it. Alan Rumpf accepted the money on behalf of the UCI.

Classic. Do you have a link to this info? I'd love to read the transcript of all this.

 

[thehog]

Classic. Do you have a link to this info?

Yes.






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