Landis letter re drug use in cycling

[frizzlefry]

Previously, Lance has responded to allegations with threats of lawsuits.

Not now. It's pretty clear Lance knows what's coming in discovery is he files a suit.

Still at it I see. I figured all you FLANboys would be tired of lubing Floyd's chain by now.

 

[Race Radio]

Regarding the money trail, did the UCI officials put the money into their back pockets or did they use it to say, buy better equiptment ?

Why is FL statement revelatory if there are other witnesses ?

What if they used it for a "Real Estate investment"? Hummm?

No matter how they choose to spin it a payment by an athlete to the UCI is unethical.

 

[kurtinsc]

I would not defend the LAF so passionately if I were you. Someone has been following your suggestion for the last few months and the results are not good.

Link?

First I've heard of it.

 

[Beech Mtn]

Is taking PEDs a criminal offense?

In Europe, where many of these alleged acts took place, it is.

The more worrisome part is that there are much stricter laws, including possible jail terms for those who distribute drugs and managers/coaches who dope their own riders. Floyd's allegations seem that they might place Johan in that light (the part about Johan teaching him how to dope).

Floyd's allegations also left me wondering whether Lance would be classed as a distributor when Floyd claims that he was sent to Lance's house retrieve EPO from Lance himself (in plain view of Kristen). LA seems to be such an entrepreneur in other areas of life, I almost begin to wonder if he could possibly have been running some kind of distribution to his "chosen" teammates (the TdF team/heavy hitters) and skimming profits off dope. No idea whether Floyd's claims or a case would actually go so far - that would really be quite a leap, and shocking.

Edit -
Of course this all depends on which country's laws you are under, in which country acts took place, etc. It sounds like most of what Floyd has alleged so far took place in France or Spain. LA, as an American citizen, would surely be harder to prosecute abroad than Johan, a Belgian who lives in Spain.

 

[polpolpol]

I just listened to the McQuaid radio interview, wow. His first point was the 'revelation' that he immediately contacted Landis after his positive test and told him not to make a fuss about it, just admit it and get it over... So he is basically admitting that his first move after a doping bust for him is to get onto the culprit, tell them not to kick up a fuss and that if they serve their time and keep their head down a la Basso, they'll be back in the peloton in 18 months.

 

[workingclasshero]

not got much to add. i just want to say i'm fûcking loving this

 

[McLaren]

What if they used it for a "Real Estate investment"? Hummm?

No matter how they choose to spin it a payment by an athlete to the UCI is unethical.

Unethical is different to illegal.

 

[kurtinsc]

Is taking PEDs a criminal offense?

Depends on if the particular drug is legal, or if it was a prescription medicine taken without prescription.

 

[McLaren]

I just listened to the McQuaid radio interview, wow. His first point was the 'revelation' that he immediately contacted Landis after his positive test and told him not to make a fuss about it, just admit it and get it over... So he is basically admitting that his first move after a doping bust for him is to get onto the culprit, tell them not to kick up a fuss and that if they serve their time and keep their head down a la Basso, they'll be back in the peloton in 18 months.

I listened to that radio interview as well and I can sort of see McQuaid's point. The UCI spent years prosecuting Landis, using hundreds of thousands of dollars, in the tooth and nail of opposition from Landis. I can see why they would not have any time for anything he says now.

 

[Black-Balled]

Lance abandoned his family and wife who saw him through his cancer. He then went for a succession of other women who look like his mother...and an Olsen twin. It is scary how little you know about Lance and his family. I feel sorry for his children. Having a father like that is bound to turn out bad for the kids.

c'mon! Just coz those events happened doesn't mean you are privvy to any of the situational details.

 

[McLaren]

Depends on if the particular drug is legal, or if it was a prescription medicine taken without prescription.

EPO is not illegal to possess in many European countries. I think Floyd would have to prove Armstrong sold him the EPO rather than just gave it to him.

 

[Roland Rat]

EPO is not illegal to possess in many European countries. I think Floyd would have to prove Armstrong sold him the EPO rather than just gave it to him.

New IP address then?

 

[polpolpol]

I listened to that radio interview as well and I can sort of see McQuaid's point. The UCI spent years prosecuting Landis in the tooth and nail of opposition from Landis. I can see why they would not have any time for anything he says now.

Ah yes, but it is significant that this is the very first thing he says in the interview. The subtext of this comment is the key to understanding his reaction. Never mind the allegations themselves, the thing that is eating him up about this matter is that Landis never does what he's told to do. The frustration you can hear in his voice.. 'he went from embarrassing denial to embarrassing confession, and I don't like the riders doing either'.

 

[Beech Mtn]

I listened to that radio interview as well and I can sort of see McQuaid's point. The UCI spent years prosecuting Landis, using hundreds of thousands of dollars, in the tooth and nail of opposition from Landis. I can see why they would not have any time for anything he says now.

I can't. McQuaid's predecessor has been accused via Floyd's emails of taking bribes from an athlete. McQuaid and the UCI have an obligation to look into whether there is any truth in the matter. They don't have an obligation to believe Floyd right off the bat, but an internal investigation is in order. It looks very bad that they are blowing this off so blithely. Terrible PR for the UCI.

 

[D Avoid]

The lack of evidence?

You're an imbecile.

A bit impolite, try disguising it, like

Stuck in fupid.

 

[hfer07]

LA's response to the media is just a joke-BTW he looks & sounds scared,now that the feds are going to get involved. they might not be looking at what took place back them, but what is the modus operandi of the USA Cycling nowadays, and now that LA has decided not to train in Europe, perhaps due to the ongoing French investigation, he's basically cornered. maybe South America is the alternative for training though-if he wants to continue-

 

[simmspin]

Just in via twitter....retirement 2.0?

 

[lancaster]

How ****ed are Amgen that USPS were using Eprex rather than Epogen, not only are they the sponsors of a very average race but even their drugs aren't top of the pro cycling tree.

 

[Jamsque]

Just in via twitter....retirement 2.0?

We can but dream!

Probably just x-ray results or equally boring dullness, though.

 

[LukeSchmid]

We can but dream!

Probably just x-ray results or equally boring dullness, though.

From Lances Twitter immediately before the previously posted message.

A statement from @TeamRadioShack's counsel re: recent allegations is forthcoming. Will b quite a few email exchanges that r very interesting

 

[workingclasshero]

We can but dream!

Probably just x-ray results or equally boring dullness, though.

probably no x ray stuff as this twitter from armstrong goes with the one you quote

"A statement from @TeamRadioShack's counsel re: recent allegations is forthcoming. Will b quite a few email exchanges that r very interesting"

 

[krebs303]

We can but dream!

Probably just x-ray results or equally boring dullness, though.

This tweet preceded it.
A statement from @TeamRadioShack's counsel re: recent allegations is forthcoming. Will b quite a few email exchanges that r very interesting

 

[Ferminal]

And so the character assasination begins.

Floyd has no credibility, I completely agree with them, so what are they going to prove through further attacks?

 

[Laszlo]

And so the character assasination begins.

Floyd has no credibility, I completely agree with them, so what are they going to prove through further attacks?

quid pro quo

 

[rolfrae]

And so the character assasination begins.

Floyd has no credibility, I completely agree with them, so what are they going to prove through further attacks?

It will be portrayed that Floyd made it all up in order to extort money.