landis sued by uci?

[ChrisE]

@ChrisE

If somebody who has the resources to fight charges doesn't, then they are presumed guilty, particularly if they have a reputation for never backing away from a fight.

If somebody who doesn't have the resources and can't really be adversely affected by the ruling doesn't fight the charges, they are not presumed guilty, particularly when their side of the story has been independently verified.

HTH

Why doesn't he have the resources? JV said he was going to Yale lol, in between his stints doing his Ricky Bobby impersonation when he comes out of his log cabin. Priorities? Maybe he could get one of the FFF rubes to let him slide a few months.

I mean, if somebody accused an innocent person of something, then obviously an innocent person would roll right over there and defend themselves. If they don't do that, then they are obviously guilty, right? He could bring TH over there and they could jump up and down swearing that LA paid to get out of the TdS positive. That should be enough to convince anybody. Perhaps he was scared that if he got too close to France he would get nabbed for hacking that lab's computers lol.

I agree that he will not be affected, but neither is LA apparently and at the end of the day we will see what the UCI does. Why the double standard on 'how they are affected'?

 

[ChrisE]

sure i can use your $10000 to buy it when you've paid me 8)

What am I being accused of?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

@ChrisE

If somebody who has the resources to fight charges doesn't, then they are presumed guilty, particularly if they have a reputation for never backing away from a fight.

If somebody who doesn't have the resources and can't really be adversely affected by the ruling doesn't fight the charges, they are not presumed guilty, particularly when their side of the story has been independently verified.

HTH

Add to that - Mr Armstrong was well aware that a case was being brought against him and got his expensive lawyers to go to Federal Court in an attempt to quash it.

So, it certainly was not a question of not knowing or being well funded.

OK, now you owe me a laptop.

Well this is what Heinricous said 2 weeks ago:
"The problem is we can't find Landis," Verbruggen told Cyclingnews as he poured himself a glass of wine at a worlds presentation in Valkenburg".

I trust you are not insinuating that our esteemed almost ex President is a liar?

 

[ChrisE]

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Hi Vortex!

I just want you to know that I do occasionally read your posts. You are an easy mark. But, I am still on the wagon so to speak, so it is easy to resist lighting into your ***.

BTW, do you know where CN got the cool sexy brooding pic of FL on the front page? I can imagine all of the perspiration flowing from the clinic.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Hi Vortex!

I just want you to know that I do occasionally read your posts. You are an easy mark. But, I am still on the wagon so to speak, so it is easy to resist lighting into your ***.

BTW, do you know where CN got the cool sexy brooding pic of FL on the front page? I can imagine all of the perspiration flowing from the clinic.

Hi Chris,
I do understand.
It is easier for you to offer nothing of substance and instead just troll personal stuff.
To be honest, you are making it sound as though this is something new you are doing.

 

[Zweistein]

This is merely a ploy to make Landis afraid to enter the country and participate in the process when the **** goes down.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Hi Vortex!

I just want you to know that I do occasionally read your posts. You are an easy mark. But, I am still on the wagon so to speak, so it is easy to resist lighting into your ***.

BTW, do you know where CN got the cool sexy brooding pic of FL on the front page? I can imagine all of the perspiration flowing from the clinic.

Wow Chris you hit my feelings spot on! I thought it was an uber sexy pic....

 

[Tinman]

I will contribute to a fund that takes out some/all of said advertisements on behalf of Landis, and as crafted by contributors* to this forum.

I will even offer editing services.

Dave.

*Other than wacked-out fanboys, of course.

PM me when ur ready, I'm in.

 

[ChrisE]

Hi Chris,
I do understand.
It is easier for you to offer nothing of substance and instead just troll personal stuff.
To be honest, you are making it sound as though this is something new you are doing.

No no. I completely understand the clinic position and I am on board. I am on the clinic logic train, toot toot!

FFFL chooses not to fight the UCI? FFFL good, UCI bad.

LA chooses not to fight USADA? LA bad, USADA good.

Makes perfect sense.

 

[Kender]

No no. I completely understand the clinic position and I am on board. I am on the clinic logic train, toot toot!

FFFL chooses not to fight the UCI? FFFL good, UCI bad.

LA chooses not to fight USADA? LA bad, USADA good.

Makes perfect sense.

FL wasn't invited
LA was but decined

 

[ChrisE]

FL wasn't invited
LA was but decined

FL's lawyer makes statements for dupes like you.

You think even if he was served (assuming it did not happen) that he would have shown up and defended himself from these outrageous charges?

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Hi Vortex!

I just want you to know that I do occasionally read your posts. You are an easy mark. But, I am still on the wagon so to speak, so it is easy to resist lighting into your ***.

BTW, do you know where CN got the cool sexy brooding pic of FL on the front page? I can imagine all of the perspiration flowing from the clinic.

Hi ChrisE!

Considering your fluid morals, I suppose you support the UCI's suit against Kimmage. You know, because you think it's perfectly fine to throw out your moral positions so you get to say "Na nanna boo boo" and win some intertubes points. I find that sad considering your supposed liberal stances on issues. See, free speech is a vital issue, so people willing to change their stance because of petty intertubes fights aren't really what they claim to be, I think we can both agree on that, right?

 

[LeLanternRouge]

No no. I completely understand the clinic position and I am on board. I am on the clinic logic train, toot toot!

FFFL chooses not to fight the UCI? FFFL good, UCI bad.

LA chooses not to fight USADA? LA bad, USADA good.

Makes perfect sense.

I don't think I've read any official statement from Landis that he denied making the statements alleged against him.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

No no. I completely understand the clinic position and I am on board. I am on the clinic logic train, toot toot!

FFFL chooses not to fight the UCI? FFFL good, UCI bad.

LA chooses not to fight USADA? LA bad, USADA good.

Makes perfect sense.

As no-one actually said any of those things - I am afraid you must have got on the wrong train. I hope it is not the Blue train, as that is about to derail very soon. Toot Toot.

 

[ChrisE]

I don't think I've read any official statement from Landis that he denied making the statements alleged against him.

I agree, and why would he state that? He did say those things. Ah, we have consensus.

What is your point?

 

[ChrisE]

As no-one actually said any of those things - I am afraid you must have got on the wrong train. I hope it is not the Blue train, as that is about to derail very soon. Toot Toot.

No one "said" those things? Isn't it obvious to infer that from the last few weeks in this zoo? Don't answer that, I wouldn't want you to get whiplash.

 

[LeLanternRouge]

I agree, and why would he state that? He did say those things. Ah, we have consensus.

What is your point?

Actually, what is YOUR point? The court said Floyd said those things...and Floyd has not disputed it. Is that not materially different from Armstrong "denying" that he doped by not contesting the charges against him?

 

[ChrisE]

Hi ChrisE!

...snip internet stalker babble...

Can you please stop following me around trying to derail threads with your personnal vendetta? You saw what red wrote on the other thread, so why you antagonize the mod team is not quite clear. You live on the edge.

The internet is a vast marketplace of ideas, and you should be thankful that you can participate. This is not about my morals...it is about the clinic's with its selective application of its morals. I have not given my opinion on this issue in terms of its merits, though I am sure you are waiting so you can confirm what you learned in class this morning.

 

[thehog]

We're on the doorstep of unveiling the greatest fraud in the history of the sport that also involves the governing body and we've found one... a UCI supporter! Someone other then Wiggins who firmly believes the UCI's action was right.

In a world where we'd like to see the UCI tackle the doping problem instead they're using licence fees for lawsuits against long retired athletes.

Go get em' UCI!

Well done and if you need some help in your upcoming trial with Paul Kimmidge there's one guy on this forum who will support you.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

No one "said" those things? Isn't it obvious to infer that from the last few weeks in this zoo? Don't answer that, I wouldn't want you to get whiplash.

Hi Chris,
Still nothing of substance to add I see - no, it is not obvious to infer that at all.

Unlike you, I would actually like you answer things, rather than your rather juvenile responses. But alas, it probably is all you've got.

 

[ChrisE]

Actually, what is YOUR point? The court said Floyd said those things...and Floyd has not disputed it. Is that not materially different from Armstrong "denying" that he doped by not contesting the charges against him?

He could have shown up and proved what he said was right.

For example, he could have provided evidence that the human rights attrocities, and other such acts such as sponsoring people that crash airlines, atributed to Qadaffi were on par with doping in bike races.

Heck, after that proving that LA paid off the UCI would be a piece of cake.

You do believe that, right? After all, there is a whole thread started on that subject alone by the clinic liar so why not put the cards on the table?

A long time ago in a galaxy far far away French Fry wrote something on DPF that I never will forget. When FL dropped his appeals and settled, FF wrote to his supporters that just knew he would win that it was like quitting the TdF while on the last lap of the Champs in yellow.

FL had a chance to prove all of these things and he dropped out on the last lap in yellow. What a shame.

 

[thehog]

He could have shown up and proved what he said was right.

For example, he could have provided evidence that the human rights attrocities, and other such acts such as sponsoring people that crash airlines, atributed to Qadaffi were on par with doping in bike races.

Heck, after that proving that LA paid off the UCI would be a piece of cake.

You do believe that, right? After all, there is a whole thread started on that subject alone by the clinic liar so why not put the cards on the table?

A long time ago in a galaxy far far away French Fry wrote something on DPF that I never will forget. When FL dropped his appeals and settled, FF wrote to his supporters that just knew he would win that it was like quitting the TdF while on the last lap of the Champs in yellow.

FL had a chance to prove all of these things and he dropped out on the last lap in yellow. What a shame.

Chris 2002 is back again.

Time to don the USPS kit and go out riding. Lance and UCI together again!



You love the DPF. You wish this forum was DPF. High candace discussions and all that.

 

[cathulu]

Oh lord, ChrisE, if you can't see nobody can help you. Keep tilting at the windmills.

 

[LeLanternRouge]

He could have shown up and proved what he said was right.

For example, he could have provided evidence that the human rights attrocities, and other such acts such as sponsoring people that crash airlines, atributed to Qadaffi were on par with doping in bike races.

Heck, after that proving that LA paid off the UCI would be a piece of cake.

You do believe that, right? After all, there is a whole thread started on that subject alone by the clinic liar so why not put the cards on the table?

A long time ago in a galaxy far far away French Fry wrote something on DPF that I never will forget. When FL dropped his appeals and settled, FF wrote to his supporters that just knew he would win that it was like quitting the TdF while on the last lap of the Champs in yellow.

FL had a chance to prove all of these things and he dropped out on the last lap in yellow. What a shame.

I still don't get what your point is.

Floyd had a chance to defend himself and didn't. Armstrong had a chance to defend himself and didn't.

Floyd has never denied saying what he said. Armstrong has vehemently denied doping.

If you're equating failing to fight a court case with lying, you're not doing a very good job at present.

 

[thehog]

Oh lord, ChrisE, if you can't see nobody can help you. Keep tilting at the windmills.

He's an angry man for some reason. Keeps bringing up Floyd and the DPF which I don't even remember.

But good to know the UCI does have one supporter out there.

He also spells "Gaddafi" with a Q so must be Bush supporter