Landis threatened?

[Cal_Joe]

From what it looks like the sponsorship of the LA/Tailwind crew coincided with their erosion in business, losing market share to the DHL/UPS/FedEx trio.

And email attachments, fax machines (now almost extinct too) and high bandwidth/ high speed data transfers also contributed. You can see a similar trend in many governmental post offices as newer technology ramped up. Anybody in England remember "Consignia"?

 

[Polish]

You're kidding me. Did you read the report? Everything was hunky dory at USPS until the sponsorship kicked in. They lost 20mill in the Armstrong winning years. That really says something.

USPS is not NIKE. Having the brand punched out there doesn't make kids want to post letters. Armstrong took them for all he could and won. USPS was left with nothing. Armstrong promoted his own brands more than USPS.

Sad state of affairs. The same will happen to Radioshack. Once their gone after this year there will be no brand left. Well maybe the company that make numbers plates in the jails will want to sponsor him.

Hog, do you realize how BIG the USPS is?

USPS Revenue....70billion
Nike Revenue....20billion

The USPS lost 20million during the Lance Years? That is ALL?
Hog, the USPS is projecting a 200Billion dollar loss in the next ten years.

They need to bring Lance back lol.

 

[Colm.Murphy]

To all those pointing out the procedural correctness of a C&D letter, correct.

That it is now, weeks later and there is not a whiff of a lawsuit filed, UCI v Landis, is what is telling.

Moral of the story: Back up your threats. Not doing so can be very revealing.

That a certain dutchman is rumored to have taunted a certain disgraced TdF winner via email, after the UCI letter was sent, and contradictory to his public statement today ("I put Landis out of mind," he said. "I don't want to think about the guy. I don't know what the UCI is doing. I don't know whether they want to pursue this case.") tells us even more!

Further, the ever changing amount of the payment to the UCI from a certain 7x TdF winner, $25k, $35k, $50k, $100k, $500k, for a piece of medical equipment with an also varying price tag, $88k, $51-60k, also begs further scrutiny.

It all smack of the kind of unreliable, unprofessional cast of imbeciles at the UCI. That it is 2010 and ALL of this is coming to reveal now, under these circumstances, is providing me with unbridled entertainment, I can hardly get my paying work done.

 

[peloton]

quick question, what does a cease and desist letter mean?

Shut up or we will sue you?

 

[Colm.Murphy]

Hog, do you realize how BIG the USPS is?

USPS Revenue....70billion
Nike Revenue....20billion

The USPS lost 20million during the Lance Years? That is ALL?
Hog, the USPS is projecting a 200Billion dollar loss in the next ten years.

They need to bring Lance back lol.

Better do it fast, for as I read today, Felons can't work for the govt.

 

[Colm.Murphy]

quick question, what does a cease and desist letter mean?

Shut up or we will sue you?

You have made a Bingo.

 

[peloton]

You have made a Bingo.

Thanks.

The corruption within the UCI is finally coming out?

 

[Colm.Murphy]

Thanks.

The corruption within the UCI is finally coming out?

Maybe, if they keep mis-remembering the price of certain purchases, the amounts of certain donations and the timing of said donations...

Hard to keep track of all the lies, I can only imagine.

 

[Cal_Joe]

quick question, what does a cease and desist letter mean?

Shut up or we will sue you?

C&D Letter - shut up or we "may" "think about" pursuing legal action.

If one does take further legal action, a C&D letter in the file (to simplify things a bit) indicates that the supposedly offended party took umbrage at an early stage and acted quickly.

Think of it as laying a small brick in a legal foundation - possibly never needed or referred to again, but fairly cheap legal "insurance".

 

[peloton]

C&D Letter - shut up or we "may" "think about" pursuing legal action.

If one does take further legal action, a C&D letter in the file (to simplify things a bit) indicates that the supposedly offended party took umbrage at an early stage and acted quickly.

Think of it as laying a small brick in a legal foundation - possibly never needed or referred to again, but fairly cheap legal "insurance".

So another question, why would anyone in the UCI do this?
Makes them look even more foolish.

 

[Cal_Joe]

So another question, why would anyone in the UCI do this?
Makes them look even more foolish.

As I indicated earlier, C&D letters are standard operating procedure, sometimes for a legal foundation, other times purely for PR purposes. If for PR purposes, the offended party usually makes the existence of the C&D letter known ASAP.

Judicial officials (judges here in the US) may sometimes get a little shirty at continuous PR type ploys, but since the existence of the letter was not announced by UCI, my guess is that the PR bit is from someone else.

"Looking foolish" really does not enter the equation at this time. From a legal standpoint, a C&D letter is rarely foolish. I would be interested to see if the new Flandis counsel releases a response to the letter.

 

[peloton]

nonsense

What's obvious is that the UCI is rotten to the core, no matter how you try to spin it.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

As I indicated earlier, C&D letters are standard operating procedure, sometimes for a legal foundation, other times purely for PR purposes. If for PR purposes, the offended party usually makes the existence of the C&D letter known ASAP.

Judicial officials (judges here in the US) may sometimes get a little shirty at continuous PR type ploys, but since the existence of the letter was not announced by UCI, my guess is that the PR bit is from someone else.

"Looking foolish" really does not enter the equation at this time. From a legal standpoint, a C&D letter is rarely foolish. I would be interested to see if the new Flandis counsel releases a response to the letter.

Help me out here....

Floyd sends an email - not to the public, but direct to USA Cycling, who are a part of the UCI stating he has information which may help them in their effort to 'clean up' the sport and ends it with....

Look forward to much more detail as soon as you can demonstrate that you can be trusted to do the right thing.

Why would the UCI issue a C&D letter?

 

[Wheels Go Round and Round]

Hog, do you realize how BIG the USPS is?

USPS Revenue....70billion
Nike Revenue....20billion

The USPS lost 20million during the Lance Years? That is ALL?
Hog, the USPS is projecting a 200Billion dollar loss in the next ten years.

They need to bring Lance back lol.

this simple fact will be lost on the tifosi here that just want Lance to burn....at all costs even though they all are dopers

 

[Kennf1]

I still have a hard time understanding what the UCI general counsel is thinking as an end game here. Is he actually contemplating filing suit in a U.S. court against Landis? (good luck getting personal jurisdiction over Landis in Europe).
Does Verbruggen really want to open up the doors of discovery?

That C&D letter isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Landis's elite lawyers should just draw a picture of a middle finger on the letter in crayon and mail it back to McQuaid.

 

[Cal_Joe]

What's obvious is that the UCI is rotten to the core, no matter how you try to spin it.

Please do not post a quote that does not contain anything I said - are you taking lessons from BPC? Man up, quote the whole thing, then post your comment.

UCI may be rotten to the core, but I am not defending them or castigating them in my posts. Just trying to provide a bit of interpretation for those whose idea of the US legal system is based on the OP's posts and subsequent posts.

Being a cheerleader for one agenda or another tends to divert others from sifting the wheat from the chaff.

 

[Beech Mtn]

UCI: Uniformly Clumsy and Incompetent
Everyone’s favorite governing body gets all lathered up, and Floyd’s now lawyered up.

 

[BYOP88]

I still have a hard time understanding what the UCI general counsel is thinking as an end game here. Is he actually contemplating filing suit in a U.S. court against Landis? (good luck getting personal jurisdiction over Landis in Europe).
Does Verbruggen really want to open up the doors of discovery?

That C&D letter isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Landis's elite lawyers should just draw a picture of a middle finger on the letter in crayon and mail it back to McQuaid.

HAHAHAHAHA

Thanks for the laugh

 

[Kender]

UCI: Uniformly Clumsy and Incompetent
Everyone’s favorite governing body gets all lathered up, and Floyd’s now lawyered up.

haha Bruyneel well done.

Finally, I’ve long felt that you can learn a lot from not just what people say, but how they say it. When Frankie Andreu confessed doping in a NY Times story, then-Discovery director Johan Bruyneel responded as if Andreu had personally attacked him, saying, “I do not understand why he goes on making these unfounded statements.”

sound familiar? guy confesses to doping and JB basically calls him a liar

 

[buckwheat]

Hog, do you realize how BIG the USPS is?

USPS Revenue....70billion
Nike Revenue....20billion

The USPS lost 20million during the Lance Years? That is ALL?
Hog, the USPS is projecting a 200Billion dollar loss in the next ten years.

They need to bring Lance back lol.

You realize that the USPS has to go to Congress before they can raise their rates.

44 cents for first class mail and a lot of it flies on FEDEX planes. Not a bad deal.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

UCI: Uniformly Clumsy and Incompetent
Everyone’s favorite governing body gets all lathered up, and Floyd’s now lawyered up.

You know, I never much liked Joe Lindsey's writing in the past, but he's now written several articles in the last year or so that are quite incisive and well written. This one is no exception.

I'm now very curious what the attorney quite probably assisting Landis the most, Leo Cunningham, is looking into. Very telling when comping to the SI article and some revelations about what the FDA may be pursuing.

That C&D letter isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Landis's elite lawyers should just draw a picture of a middle finger on the letter in crayon and mail it back to McQuaid.

Now that's funny!

 

[buckwheat]

i have the same thing going with cancer, i'd never have known about it if i hadn't had lance telling me to give money to him for some cheap yellow armband. thank fúck for cancer awareness.

It's not a **** ring?

 

[Cal_Joe]

I'm now very curious what the attorney quite probably assisting Landis the most, Leo Cunningham, is looking into.

Any attorney representing Flandis has two primary concerns -

Dealing with possible charges resulting from (speculative) investigations from (speculative) investigators associated with (speculative) agencies.

Dealing with other lawsuits from the "named" persons or governing bodies in the leaked emails.


Anything beyond that at this time is just more rumor, speculation, armchair (mmm, maybe make that chaise lounge) lawyering. There have been intimations on this thread that Flandis new legal representation will "partner" with the (speculative) investigative agencies, in effect doing their job. I would be surprised at that.

 

[Colm.Murphy]

Any attorney representing Flandis has two primary concerns -

Dealing with possible charges resulting from (speculative) investigations from (speculative) investigators associated with (speculative) agencies.

Dealing with other lawsuits from the "named" persons or governing bodies in the leaked emails.


Anything beyond that at this time is just more rumor, speculation, armchair (mmm, maybe make that chaise lounge) lawyering. There have been intimations on this thread that Flandis new legal representation will "partner" with the (speculative) investigative agencies, in effect doing their job. I would be surprised at that.

For the bolded part (not your name), do you mean to state that Floyd could be charged with something here? Not that it is impossible, just wanted to get your clarification.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

It's not a **** ring?

Not unless you're a Moose.