Laurent Jalabert is full of s**t

[gooner]

JaJa is being JaJa, a product of his times. I don't understand the shock and outrage, his position has been crystal clear from when he was a cyclist.

But once again I notice something at this forum that annoys me. France questions his athletes and it's still not enough. An athlete only agrees to speak behind closed doors (about something 15 years ago) and somehow this hearing is a joke.

Well, considering the official outrage about Rabo, the senate hearings into Carl Lewis were wideopen and the Inquiries into Linford Christie led to huge judicial action it certainly seems that once again the Latin countries are so much more corrupt

Excuse me for being sick and tired of this nonsense. Instead of applauding France to act people here expect things which are way out of legal bounds. It's about as constructive as a baby throwing out it's toys out of the pram.

Obviously you didn't know that Deschamps testified until I said so. Otherwise you may have heard him say this:

"(I answered) many questions. You know I don't have the right to reveal the content of my hearing, and that applies to the committee members as well,'' Deschamps told reporters afterward.

Deschamps, who played for Italian giant Juventus from 1994-99, was asked if any of the questions related to his time as France captain of the 1998 World Cup-winning team or his successful spell as a combative midfielder with Juve.

"I'm sorry, I can't,'' answer, he said. "There is the issue of confidentiality. I had many questions, but I can't reveal the nature of these questions.''

And that something from 15 years ago was the small matter of winning the World Cup. Why is Jalabert's public and not Deschamps? Both happened around the same period.

Tell me anything constructive that came out of Jalabert's testimony or Deschamps for that matter.

And stop bringing this along nationalistic lines. My judgement on this Senate hearing is done on what has been disclosed so far and not done with prejudice to Latin countries due to some favouritism to English speaking nations. What utter rubbish. This is judged on it's own merits.

I hope we get something contructive out of this hearing. Let's wait and see but on the basis of what I've seen so far, I think I justifiably have doubts. It hasn't been transparent enough regarding the Deschamps testimony.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

JaJa is being JaJa, a product of his times. I don't understand the shock and outrage, his position has been crystal clear from when he was a cyclist.

But once again I notice something at this forum that annoys me. France questions his athletes and it's still not enough. An athlete only agrees to speak behind closed doors (about something 15 years ago) and somehow this hearing is a joke.

Well, considering the official outrage about Rabo, the senate hearings into Carl Lewis were wideopen and the Inquiries into Linford Christie led to huge judicial action it certainly seems that once again the Latin countries are so much more corrupt

Excuse me for being sick and tired of this nonsense. Instead of applauding France to act people here expect things which are way out of legal bounds. It's about as constructive as a baby throwing out it's toys out of the pram.

"Gueule de singe"......

 

[Samson777]

The king of the tour, and JV have commented on Jala: http://www.sporten.dk/cykling/armstrong-mobber-jalabert-efter-doping-afhoering

Pretty funny if Armstrong will start having a new role, as the one calling out doping BS.

Jala is compared with Rolf Sorensen by Danish cycling " expert" To me Jala is probably even more ridiculous..

 

[Le breton]

"Gueule de singe"......

Does not mean anything in French.
Never heard the expression in English or Spanish either.

 

[Le breton]

BTW, Virenque is also expected to testify behind closed doors.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Does not mean anything in French.
Never heard the expression in English or Spanish either.

You don't read these forum enough.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

BTW, Virenque is also expected to testify behind closed doors.

Why? The fact that he was a doping freak isn't news to anyone.

 

[doperhopper]

any jailtime or other serious consequences threat for the "usual suspects"?

 

[Samson777]

Anybody believes Jala stopped as National coach, beacuse he knew this was coming?

 

[burning]

BTW, Virenque is also expected to testify behind closed doors.

Wow, I never expected that he and Jaja were doping during his career, thats some shocking news indeed

 

[BroDeal]

Why? The fact that he was a doping freak isn't news to anyone.

Virenque only took what the soigneur gave him. The two established a trust in each other, and he believed everything he was given was legit.

 

[Le breton]

Why? The fact that he was a doping freak isn't news to anyone.

Of course, but he was never caught again after 1998.
So, he was just as clean as L.A. from 1999 until the end of his career.

 

[Le breton]

Virenque only took what the soigneur gave him. The two established a trust in each other, and he believed everything he was given was legit.

Ah, no, that line does not work for Virenque, Willy Voet's book shows very well that he always wanted more.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Of course, but he was never caught again after 1998.
So, he was just as clean as L.A. from 1999 until the end of his career.

Well that's a ringing endorsement...

He was a doped-up smarmy little twerp who whined his way around France every summer.<--Just forward whoever he is testifying before this sentence and he won't have to go whine in private.

 

[Le breton]

Well that's a ringing endorsement...

He was a doped-up smarmy little twerp who whined his way around France every summer.<--Just forward whoever he is testifying before this sentence and he won't have to go whine in private.

Well that's a ringing endorsement...

Isn't it?

I am puzzled by your characterization of Virenque as a whiner (specially since as your avatar shows you are an expert on the matter ).

I remember his crying in 1998 of course, but can't remember whining episodes, although his tone of voice might sound a bit whiny.

In the end his more durable legacy will be to the French language with his so often quoted nonsensical " à l'insu de mon plein gré". I will google the expression right now

PS : He is not yet a millionaire : 678 000

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Well that's a ringing f**king endorsement...

Isn't it?

I am puzzled by your characterization of Virenque as a whiner (specially since as your avatar shows you are an expert on the matter ).

I remember his crying in 1998 of course, but can't remember whining episodes, although his tone of voice might sound a bit whiny.

In the end his more durable legacy will be to the French language with his so often quoted nonsensical " à l'insu de mon plein gré". I will google the expression right now

PS : He is not yet a millionaire : 678 000

Thanks for questioning my choice of words and then providing evidence of it. That tack won't win you any debates, but it makes things easy for me, so cheers!

I won't Google it because IDGAF. <-Google that

 

[42x16ss]

Ah, no, that line does not work for Virenque, Willy Voet's book shows very well that he always wanted more.

Even Virenque had his limits though. He said he refused to work with Ferrari as it was "like sticking a frying pan up your @r$e, it's obvious to everyone what you've done."

Notorious doper, for sure but there were even worse at the time

 

[Clausfarre]

Too bad JaJa never raced for Phonak. Coulda had two out of three.

It could only be outdone if CSC provided the technology for lie detectors.

 

[Roude Leiw]

Anybody believes Jala stopped as National coach, beacuse he knew this was coming?

I don't think so, he stepped down because he had to much trouble getting a team together the way he wanted. The french DS are quite vocal and i do not think that a lot of love is lost between them and Jaja, which makes the job of the national coach not especially easy. The end was when he had to take the Keirin guy to the road team in London for whatever BS reasons.

 

[frenchfry]

Even Virenque had his limits though. He said he refused to work with Ferrari as it was "like sticking a frying pan up your @r$e, it's obvious to everyone what you've done."

Notorious doper, for sure but there were even worse at the time

Virenque didn't work with Ferarri because he was too cheap (Virenque, not Ferrari).

Although I like Jalabert a lot for certain things (classy rider, excellent commentator, seems like a genuinely nice guy) his stance on doping is a huge blemish, he is a champion of Omerta and loses a lot of my respect for that. Obviously he was on a world class doping program for many years, to suggest that he wasn't really sure is not acceptable.

Virenque, on the other hand, has no redeeming qualities that I am aware of. A swarmy little sh!t if you ask me. He was more than willing to totally screw close friends and advisors (Willy Voet, Luc Leblanc among others) to further his own dope-fuelled ambition.

 

[frenchfry]

Anybody believes Jala stopped as National coach, beacuse he knew this was coming?

He stepped down right after a very serious accident that left him in the hospital with multiple fractures. Given the timing, this seemed legitimate.

Maybe this was just convenient timing, though given his totally ambigous statements in front of the commission I doubt that was the real reason he stepped down. If he had told the truth about his doping practices, you might have a point.

 

[Le breton]

Thanks for questioning my choice of words and then providing evidence of it. That tack won't win you any debates, but it makes things easy for me, so cheers!

I won't Google it because IDGAF. <-Google that

I see that you are from the US.

 

[blackcat]

I see that you are from Switzerland, but have Brittany as an avatar? pschizophrenic much

The Clinic 12 and TFF are tight

 

[42x16ss]

Virenque didn't work with Ferarri because he was too cheap (Virenque, not Ferrari).

Although I like Jalabert a lot for certain things (classy rider, excellent commentator, seems like a genuinely nice guy) his stance on doping is a huge blemish, he is a champion of Omerta and loses a lot of my respect for that. Obviously he was on a world class doping program for many years, to suggest that he wasn't really sure is not acceptable.

Virenque, on the other hand, has no redeeming qualities that I am aware of. A swarmy little sh!t if you ask me. He was more than willing to totally screw close friends and advisors (Willy Voet, Luc Leblanc among others) to further his own dope-fuelled ambition.

I didn't hear that about Virenque being too cheap to pay for Ferrari's services but I haven't read "Breaking the Chain." Probably a good thing he didn't, if Ferrari can turn LA into a 7 time TdF winner imagine what he could have done for Virenque!

Agree that Virenque has no real redeeming qualities apart from his panache on the bike. He did ride with style though. Interesting to note that Jaja and Virenque have now been close friends for a few years.

 

[Christian]

Irony is, ONCE is a charity for the blind.

LOL I just found that out recently!! This is hilarious, post of the week, easily!!

Although for people saying that he is dumb I don't think so... I have been listening to him for years as a commentator on France 2 and he does a very good job at it IMO. I think there is a reason that he lands all the good jobs over Virenque for example