Le Tour 2018 stage 17: BDL to Saint-Lary-Soulan 65k

[Brullnux]

Budget caps have to become a thing now. Sky's fourth best rider was setting the same tempo as Quintana. It's impossible to do anything when it's like that.

 

[Walkman]

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Fuglsang & Landa on the speed today

https://twitter.com/mrconde/status/1022152434049863681

This is so crazy. So many riders that talk about how fast the pace is and SKY is rolling around with 4-6 guys when it is 20 riders left..

Apparently Quintana rode the last climb at 5.88 w/kg. That’s nothing abnormal. And he rode it faster than everyone.

Correct me if I am wrong but aren't the watts a bit lower these days? And people are still complaining on the pace?

 

[arvc40]

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3 things

1) Quintana is back. But too late.
2) Thomas wins the Tour..
3) Dumoulin best of the rest. Again. Still could have had a chance without Bretagne. But that's cycling.

Put Quintana within a minute of Thomas and then see if he’s back to his best !. Still a nice victory for him today.

 

[Son of Amsterhammer]

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3 things

1) Quintana is back. But too late.
2) Thomas wins the Tour..
3) Dumoulin best of the rest. Again. Still could have had a chance without Bretagne. But that's cycling.

Yep. Pretty much! I would add that Roglic looks to be a real strong challenger for the future too. Bernal also down the road, he was incredible today. 21years old!!

 

[AQETUYIOI]

Even more if Kristoff abandons leaving 5 people who could win.

Why Kristoff abandon?

 

[Kwibus]

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Apparently Dan Martin has asked the UCI to forbid the super tuck position on descents

What a whiny brat

It’s a pretty widespread view that it’s unnecessarily dangerous and particularly so when kids and fat old lads try to imitate it.

But why do they do it? Science say that it is slower that other positions:
https://www.velonews.com/2017/05/news/study-froomes-super-tuck-actually-isnt-faster_437636

Scientists also said epo didn't work.

 

[Jagartrott]

If Sagan can't continue this would be the most ridiculous green jersey competition ever

Even more if Kristoff abandons leaving 5 people who could win.

Julian could go for the pois verts

 

[Inquitus]

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The French seem happy to let him cheat his way to Paris, lets just hope he does not win on the Champs D'Elysee as that would be a tragedy to the riders who really fought their way over the mountains!

 

[Jagartrott]

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Greipel said earlier he saw massive cheating the stage he abandoned. Wonder who he was talking about.

 

[spalco]

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The French seem happy to let him cheat his way to Paris, lets just hope he does not win on the Champs D'Elysee as that would be a tragedy to the riders who really fought their way over the mountains!

If Sagan's hurt, he has a chance to win the green jersey even!

 

[SHAD0W93]

Even more if Kristoff abandons leaving 5 people who could win.

Why Kristoff abandon?

Because if he abandons he goes from winning because he is like 40 points ahead of second to a 4 way race between Demare, Julian, Degenkolb, and GVA. That would be a crazy fight.

 

[Escarabajo]

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Fuglsang & Landa on the speed today

https://twitter.com/mrconde/status/1022152434049863681

This is so crazy. So many riders that talk about how fast the pace is and SKY is rolling around with 4-6 guys when it is 20 riders left..

Apparently Quintana rode the last climb at 5.88 w/kg. That’s nothing abnormal. And he rode it faster than everyone.

If we take into account the road surface and that it was on third week for a 16 km that is very impressive. Compare that to Finestre at the Giro. That would be a good comparison.

 

[SKSemtex]

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1022150847936045061

H e really does not look good.

 

[grizzlee]

But for Martins puncture and crash he would be in 4th only 30 secs down on Froome.

 

[Escarabajo]

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But for Martins puncture and crash he would be in 4th only 30 secs down on Froome.

You have Dumo, Froome and Quintana in the same boat!

 

[GuyIncognito]

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But for Martins puncture and crash he would be in 4th only 30 secs down on Froome.

He wouldn't have been allowed to ride away like this, he'd be a lot further back

 

[Carols]

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3 things

1) Quintana is back. But too late.
2) Thomas wins the Tour..
3) Dumoulin best of the rest. Again. Still could have had a chance without Bretagne. But that's cycling.

Yep. Pretty much! I would add that Roglic looks to be a real strong challenger for the future too. Bernal also down the road, he was incredible today. 21years old!!

This...I'm really Impressed with both! Roglic attacked 2xs against multiple Skys, and then again late. He can TT, he can podium! Bernal a Future Champion!

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

It's also quit something Thomas now managed to sprint away from his rivals everytime in the last 500m. If only it was a man to man battle from earlier on. I would like to see that. But Bernal (and Poels now too?) are too strong

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

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But for Martins puncture and crash he would be in 4th only 30 secs down on Froome.

He wouldn't have been allowed to ride away like this, he'd be a lot further back

With a TT to come he still wouldn’t have been perceived as a threat to yellow any more than Quintana. Certainly Sky wouldn’t have chased. Roglic might have.

 

[Escarabajo]

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It's also quit something Thomas now managed to sprint away from his rivals everytime in the last 500m. If only it was a man to man battle from earlier on. I would like to see that. But Bernal (and Poels now too?) are too strong

Dis somebody check Poels GPS? was he hiding on a ditch midway through the climb?

 

[Robert5091]

Chapeau Nairo & Dan Martin! Grid start? Nah, sorry.

Froome looks ill - coughin' and a wheezin' - which has n't stopped him winning in the past.

 

[King Boonen]

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In all fairness, they did ban the 'superman' position IIRC

ETA: as well as GO's previous 'praying mantis' position.

Dis they ban the position or the bike though? I think in reality it was the bike.

Technically the bikes and the positions. It was a multi-faceted decision by UCI. From GO's wiki:

The world governing body, the Union Cycliste Internationale, grew concerned that changes to bicycles were making a disproportionate improvement to track records. Among other measures, it banned his riding position: he did not find out until one hour before he began the world championship pursuit in Italy.[17] Judges disqualified him when he refused to comply.[18] The magazine Cycling Weekly blamed "petty-minded officialdom."[19]

Thanks!

 

[Escarabajo]

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Chapeau Nairo & Dan Martin! Grid start? Nah, sorry.

Froome looks ill - coughin' and a wheezin' - which has n't stopped him winning in the past.

He always does that when he is weak. He needed some puffs as well. No kidding!

 

[Kwibus]

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Chapeau Nairo & Dan Martin! Grid start? Nah, sorry.

Froome looks ill - coughin' and a wheezin' - which has n't stopped him winning in the past.

He always does that when he is weak. He needed some puffs as well. No kidding!

Then we can expect him to drop everyone on Friday.

 

[woodburn]

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But for Martins puncture and crash he would be in 4th only 30 secs down on Froome.

Froome also crashed, too.