Lemond - Trek lawsuit

[Race Radio]

I am seriously trying to find out who or how I can get in touch with Lance's PR people, because 10.2% unemployment is a real scary thing, and I write reel good, and if they can spread a little of that awareness/image coin my way, I will take the talking points and run with it.

Please send private message.

http://www.pstrategies.com/
Ask for Mark

 

[Digger]

Yes he won the Pacific Grove Criterium senior 1 in the 70s. He was a junior and was using gears above the limit for juniors. He was dqed. I do not know if gear limitations for juniors are still in effect.

I also heard a nasty rumor about Greg which I shall not repeat as I can not substantiate and do not want to start problems.
The answer is Greg was an awesome rider, as a junior he was so smoking good I knew he was going to Europe to win the tour worlds etc.

Sad thing is he and Lance have a lot in common and I hate to see the snarling backbiting,so sad. When I see him attack Lance and Contador it makes me cry. The princess soap opera with Flandis was straight up Tanya Harding.

Why say it at all?


So there you have it.....using the wrong gears as a junior is all we have for one of the most successful cyclists of all time....what a cheat

 

[ggusta]

http://www.pstrategies.com/
Ask for Mark

First off, what's Mark's last name? http://www.pstrategies.com/index.php/bios.htm

Second, Lance is awesome, never doped, never would dope and people who hate him hate excellence, lie about him, and generally sniff spanish chamois.

Last, Lemond is French.

(First pimped message is on me for goodwill purposes)

EDIT: Fellowship program pay is not bad for sitting at home in my robe.
http://www.pstrategies.com/index.php/fellowship-program.htm

 

[Sprocket01]

RaceRadio is a liar.

"I think he is one of the most knowledgeable and best trainers in cycling" -

Giorgio Squinzi, a critic of Ferrari.

 

[Sprocket01]

A more rounded and fair interview with Ferrari. He was at the cutting edge of sports science for many years. He and his mentor helped pioneer the Conconi test for endurnce athletes.

There is a text version of it somewhere but I can't find it

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...resnum=1&ved=0CAgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=&f=false

 

[Sprocket01]

For those that are interested, Dr Ferrari gives training tips on this site...

http://www.53x12.com/do/show?page=front

 

[Dr. Maserati]

RaceRadio is a liar.

"I think he is one of the most knowledgeable and best trainers in cycling" -

Giorgio Squinzi, a critic of Ferrari.

Your leaving out the best bit Sproket01!
"I think he is one of the most knowledgeable and best trainers in cycling," Squinzi says, "but I also think he is a person who operates without any moral restrictions whatsoever."

As coach of the Mapei team beginning in 1996, Sassi forbade his riders from consulting with outside doctors-a policy that Mapei CEO Giorgio Squinzi, a strong opponent of doping, says was specifically intended to keep Mapei riders away from Ferrari.

 

[Sprocket01]

Your leaving out the best bit Sproket01!
"I think he is one of the most knowledgeable and best trainers in cycling," Squinzi says, "but I also think he is a person who operates without any moral restrictions whatsoever."

As coach of the Mapei team beginning in 1996, Sassi forbade his riders from consulting with outside doctors-a policy that Mapei CEO Giorgio Squinzi, a strong opponent of doping, says was specifically intended to keep Mapei riders away from Ferrari.

None of which disputes my point. Even a critic says he is a first class coach. RaceRadio said he is not a coach and was never known to be one.

 

[Sprocket01]

I for one am now going to follow the Dr Ferrari training programme I found on that site above. He is the best in the business.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

None of which disputes my point. Even a critic says he is a first class coach. RaceRadio said he is not a coach and was never known to be one.

Race Radio is correct and you are wrong.
It very much disputes your point - you have learned little since your time as The Arbiter. The only reason athletes went to Dr Ferrari was to be able to dope efficiently.

And BTW - the Conconi test is not known as the Ferrari test because it was developed by Conconi with the assistance of Ferrari, who is a hematologist.

 

[BroDeal]

This forum has become a soap opera called "As the Sprocket Turns."

I barely even read this forum any more because of the Sprocket trolling. Every thread gets turned into one long moronathon.

 

[scribe]

Greg is the poster child of disastrous business instinct. He would have been much better off positioning his brand with an organization like Bike Pure. As far as doping goes, no one is more believable to have won clean than Lemond. In this day and age, it really does make for a great story and something kids coming in could really want to identify with. Instead, he is mucked up in this no win battle with the industry giants of cycling pushing a case that will be very difficult to prove. Even the article at the top of this thread innocently portrays him as excessively paranoid and uncomfortable with what he has become.

You can hate Lance all day long, but this sort of action by Lemond isn't doing anything to eradicate doping in the sport. In fact, it is making the accusers look even more disparate in their actions.

 

[Sprocket01]

Race Radio is correct and you are wrong.

You're just saying that because he is your pal (and you have to maintain the credibility behind your username choice) Clearly Ferrari was known as a great coach, as well as all that other stuff. The fact this is so difficult for some to accept is very telling in my view.

And BTW - the Conconi test is not known as the Ferrari test because it was developed by Conconi with the assistance of Ferrari, who is a hematologist.

I didn't say it was the Ferrari test. But he helped his mentor pioneer it, and he took it to a new level. He is famous for his power calculations. We shouldn't lie about this just to make Armstrong look bad.

 

[Sprocket01]

Note how the trolls have got us debating Dr Ferrari and not Greg LeMond's abuse of the legal system to wage his grudges.

 

[Race Radio]

Your leaving out the best bit Sproket01!
"I think he is one of the most knowledgeable and best trainers in cycling," Squinzi says, "but I also think he is a person who operates without any moral restrictions whatsoever."

As coach of the Mapei team beginning in 1996, Sassi forbade his riders from consulting with outside doctors-a policy that Mapei CEO Giorgio Squinzi, a strong opponent of doping, says was specifically intended to keep Mapei riders away from Ferrari.

Giorgio Squinzi is one of the greatest sponsors in the sport. He is a huge fan who was clueless to the reality of the sport. While Patrick Lefevre was running a systematic doping program at Mapei Squinzi was completely clueless. When it finally became obvious he shut down all sponsorship.

Some choose to go full *** and pretend that Ferrari is a coach. He has never been a coach. Sassi knows this better then most as he was Moser's coach, Ferrari was his hematologist.

Note, the troll has successfully highjacked another thread with *** posts.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

You're just saying that because he is your pal (and you have to maintain the credibility behind your username choice) Clearly Ferrari was known as a great coach, as well as all that other stuff. The fact this is so difficult for some to accept is very telling in my view.
.

So why did Lance cut ties with Dr. Ferrari if he was an innocent 'coach'?
Why did Dr. Squinzi not want Dr. Ferrari around any of his athletes at Mapei?

BTW- I do not have any 'pals' here - I agree with RRs postings because they are based on facts and the truth.

 

[BikeCentric]

I for one am now going to follow the Dr Ferrari training programme I found on that site above. He is the best in the business.

So Sprocket is now advocating for Ferrari. That's cute, but we are now far too deep in ***-ville for me to stay. Have fun all, SSDD as Lance would say.

 

[Digger]

Greg is the poster child of disastrous business instinct. He would have been much better off positioning his brand with an organization like Bike Pure. As far as doping goes, no one is more believable to have won clean than Lemond. In this day and age, it really does make for a great story and something kids coming in could really want to identify with. Instead, he is mucked up in this no win battle with the industry giants of cycling pushing a case that will be very difficult to prove. Even the article at the top of this thread innocently portrays him as excessively paranoid and uncomfortable with what he has become.

You can hate Lance all day long, but this sort of action by Lemond isn't doing anything to eradicate doping in the sport. In fact, it is making the accusers look even more disparate in their actions.

This action isn't trying to achieve this.

 

[Digger]

You're just saying that because he is your pal (and you have to maintain the credibility behind your username choice) Clearly Ferrari was known as a great coach, as well as all that other stuff. The fact this is so difficult for some to accept is very telling in my view.



I didn't say it was the Ferrari test. But he helped his mentor pioneer it, and he took it to a new level. He is famous for his power calculations. We shouldn't lie about this just to make Armstrong look bad.

Other than the Pantani incident, any other example?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Note how the trolls have got us debating Dr Ferrari and not Greg LeMond's abuse of the legal system to wage his grudges.

There have only been 5 posters (all of them YOU) on this forum who believe Dr Ferrari is only a good coach and does not recognize that he is the top doping Doctor.

TheArbiter, BanProCycling, UnBanProCycling, BritishProCyling, Sproket01.

Are you finally admitting you are a troll?

 

[Sprocket01]

BTW- I do not have any 'pals' here - I agree with RRs postings because they are based on facts and the truth.

But RR is lying that Ferrari was never a coach, and not even a great coach at that. (Insult to another user deleted by mod)

 

[BikeCentric]

Note, the troll has successfully highjacked another thread with *** posts.

His only goal is to have knowledgeable fans of the sport give up and leave the forum because he fills every thread with unintelligable crap.

And clearly the Moderators no longer care if one troll takes over and ruins their forum. Too bad for them but whatever.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

And clearly the Moderators no longer care if one troll takes over and ruins their forum. Too bad for them but whatever.

Yes, we do, but we don't read every post in every thread. At least, I sure don't. So please feel free to notify us.

Sprocket, cut it out.

The rest of you: forget Ferrari and get back to the trial.

Susan

 

[Dr. Maserati]

But ......

I note you didn't answer any of the two questions I asked- care to try again.

And I think your comments on RR are disgraceful - if you have anything to back up your claims then post it.

 

[HoustonHammer]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/m...-11-07_greg_lemonds_lawsuit_against_trek.html

This whole story is about Greg not being able to make a difficult but simple decision.

He was in a long-term business relationship with Trek. At the same time, Trek was in a similar relationship with Lance. Greg had a problem with Lance, which is fine, but he's a smart guy and he had to have known from square one that he was going to have to make a choice between his personal interests and his business interests. There is an inherent incompatibility between wanting to wage a personal war with Lance on the one hand while remaining his indirect business associate on the other. He was putting Trek in an untenable position, and Greg knew that.

By not making the decision himself, he forced to Trek to make the decision for him.