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LeMond's Pre-TDF prediction: LA will not start or pull out!

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steelguitar said:
His article about peaking was pathetic. he offered a little info about the process, a lot of whining about guys he used to beat who dropped him and made a big excuse about fatigue and overtraining costing him the 92 tour. Every article he writes will throw a bomb at Lance. Perhaps the French police found a way to link Lance and some of HIS RS teammates to the Syringes found in last years TDF. Hate to see peoples careers ruined in this manner. It will not be good for the sport.

au contraire mon petit fanboy, it will be good to rid the sport of dopers;)
 
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steelguitar said:
His article about peaking was pathetic. he offered a little info about the process, a lot of whining about guys he used to beat who dropped him and made a big excuse about fatigue and overtraining costing him the 92 tour. Every article he writes will throw a bomb at Lance. Perhaps the French police found a way to link Lance and some of HIS RS teammates to the Syringes found in last years TDF. Hate to see peoples careers ruined in this manner. It will not be good for the sport.

Lance's continued presence is what's bad for the sport and bringing it into disrepute. Do you blame the police for arresting criminals and ruining their careers? Is it all a spiteful setup to you?
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
Think its time to drop this in here:


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do you think fansboy get one every few months after the pages get too sticky:rolleyes:
 
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I got into cycling because of greg lemond. Now I was about to read this and was semi excited. The story was ok but the end remarks are just uncalled for. I realize he doesnt have a good relationship with lance but that final comment lacks tact.

Greg needs to learn from the likes of the other old but not forgotten greats and make predictions but do them with dignity. I'm a huge lance fan too but I don't think he can win it largely due to a rough season, a bit older and he seems to have lost that hunger he once had. Thats all greg has to say about it and I think that would have gone over much better than a bold and brash prediction.
 
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Aeralik said:
I got into cycling because of greg lemond. Now I was about to read this and was semi excited. The story was ok but the end remarks are just uncalled for. I realize he doesnt have a good relationship with lance but that final comment lacks tact.

Greg needs to learn from the likes of the other old but not forgotten greats and make predictions but do them with dignity. I'm a huge lance fan too but I don't think he can win it largely due to a rough season, a bit older and he seems to have lost that hunger he once had. Thats all greg has to say about it and I think that would have gone over much better than a bold and brash prediction.

I don't understand the issue with his prediction.

Lemond and Landis share atty's now.

The bombshell article is imminent, as it the Tour start.

Is it such a stretch to consider Lemond has deepened his knowledge into the gears of justice wrt Lance?

The prediction is one I have felt was a legitimate possibility for the last month. As has my continued posts that the article was coming.

Now, all of these come together and some folks appear, whining about the comments from Lemond that actually don't seem far off.

Silly.
 
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steelguitar said:
His article about peaking was pathetic. he offered a little info about the process, a lot of whining about guys he used to beat who dropped him and made a big excuse about fatigue and overtraining costing him the 92 tour. Every article he writes will throw a bomb at Lance. Perhaps the French police found a way to link Lance and some of HIS RS teammates to the Syringes found in last years TDF. Hate to see peoples careers ruined in this manner. It will not be good for the sport.


Agreed...it seemed like the real purpose of the article was to take another shot at LA and he needed some other subject to make it not seem so obvious, but came off as lame. I happen to think GL will be vindicated when all is said and done, but I'm not a big fan of this yellow journalism, even if he's right. If he had facts that would support his prediction, he should have just reported them.
 
Colm.Murphy said:
I don't understand the issue with his prediction.

Lemond and Landis share atty's now.

The bombshell article is imminent, as it the Tour start.

Is it such a stretch to consider Lemond has deepened his knowledge into the gears of justice wrt Lance?

The prediction is one I have felt was a legitimate possibility for the last month. As has my continued posts that the article was coming.

Now, all of these come together and some folks appear, whining about the comments from Lemond that actually don't seem far off.

Silly.

Has your source given you any insight as to the bombshell in the article?
 
Aeralik said:
I got into cycling because of greg lemond. Now I was about to read this and was semi excited. The story was ok but the end remarks are just uncalled for. I realize he doesnt have a good relationship with lance but that final comment lacks tact.

Greg needs to learn from the likes of the other old but not forgotten greats and make predictions but do them with dignity. I'm a huge lance fan too but I don't think he can win it largely due to a rough season, a bit older and he seems to have lost that hunger he once had. Thats all greg has to say about it and I think that would have gone over much better than a bold and brash prediction.

i agree that greg could be a little more tactful at times.

i strongly disagree that he should simply make up excuses for LA like he's past his prime, etc if he thinks he'll pull out then that's what he should say. i don't think it will happen but as ColmMurph says, it's not a crazy prediction.

kudos to CN on this one. i can't think of a more interesting blogger for the tour.
 
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red_flanders said:
Whatever the case with what Lemond knows or doesn't know, he does himself no service with these comments. He can only end up being right and looking like a ****, or being wrong and looking like a ****.

I say that as an unabashed Lemond fanboy.

i strongly disagree with you.

you have not been privy to all the things between texas and greg. you have no idea nor have you been on the receiving end of having your livelihood threatened via multiple persons manipulation and direct personal threats.

greg only said what he believes is based on the reasonable sources. if it sounds vindictive, there is a very good reason for that.
 
python said:
i strongly disagree with you.

you have not been privy to all the things between texas and greg. you have no idea nor have you been on the receiving end of having your livelihood threatened via multiple persons manipulation and direct personal threats.

greg only said what he believes is based on the reasonable sources. if it sounds vindictive, there is a very good reason for that.

What you say is true, it must be very difficult to stay above the fray for Lemond, as it would for anyone. I just wish he had in this case.

If Armstrong goes down, as it appears he will, kicking him only hurts Lemond. I don't blame him for his reaction, I just wish he could step above it in this case.
 

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Hi everbody.... I just joined today.

I am not from Public Strategies or anything or Livestrong - oh and I don't like Lance Armstrong, someone told me he used a cuss word once.

But I just had to comment on all this bitterness from Greg - who was a hero of mine until he had to spent 5 years at the psychiatric Hospital - just sounds like all the usual bitterness of overweight bitter, drug fueled, bitter, smelly, and bitter people like Betsy and Floyd. In fact the only way I knew it was Greg and not Betsy or Floyd was that Greg doesn't have facial hair.

I just think it needs highlighting that Greg as well as being mentally ill, fat and bitter during his first Tour win was actually using CERA -it has been well reported and I will post a link shortly but McKinnion has just called us in for a 'crisis strategy' meeting.
 

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les95035 said:
if lance gets to france, he will have so much blood drawn by the various agencies that he won't be able to turn a pedal.

Yup, I was thinking of this the other day. It will be proof positive that he's doping because his numbers will be normal after getting 6 or 7 pints taken.
 
i like how ppl jump on the conclusion GL knows something we dont know (about LA quiting before reaching france) :D

...the key in his answer is "i have a feeling..." that means he is just guessing...or had a bad lunch,but i wouldnt expect such statements in an article about peaking in TdF
 
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Colm.Murphy said:
Now, all of these come together and some folks appear, whining about the comments from Lemond that actually don't seem far off..

All this stuff has been talked about for years. He has been dodging doping accusations since he first won. The articles on this site about microdosing and transfusions all go back many years. This stuff is not at all new. I dont care what Lance has done drug wise. Its pretty proven the peloton is not as squeaky clean as it may seem.

Regardless, I just think it is wrong for a legend like Lemond to come on here and say that kind of stuff. He should be trying to help out american cycling like he once did instead of becoming a bitter old man.
 
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steelguitar said:
His article about peaking was pathetic. he offered a little info about the process, a lot of whining about guys he used to beat who dropped him and made a big excuse about fatigue and overtraining costing him the 92 tour. Every article he writes will throw a bomb at Lance. Perhaps the French police found a way to link Lance and some of HIS RS teammates to the Syringes found in last years TDF. Hate to see peoples careers ruined in this manner. It will not be good for the sport.

You mean you hate to see criminal's exposed? Yeah, me too!

Wow, public Strategies must have been given the greenlight to go up to $10/hour 9 (or $0.50 per post) as I have never seen such an influx of new posters with less than 10 posts coming so hard to defend their man.
 
saganftw said:
i like how ppl jump on the conclusion GL knows something we dont know (about LA quiting before reaching france) :D

...the key in his answer is "i have a feeling..." that means he is just guessing...or had a bad lunch,but i wouldnt expect such statements in an article about peaking in TdF

Dude, GL is back on speaking terms with FLandis, and FLandis is using his lawyers (who you would assume are friendly with GL and keeping him in the loop). I think it's fairly safe to say he knows many, many things we don't.
 
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La Vie Claire said:
Sure, that's what you'll be thinking when you read the WSJ article this weekend. Wow, what a bunch of wackos indeed! :rolleyes:

BTW, how much does this gig of yours pay?

What gig? Just stating my opinion. If there's some big bombshell that forces LA out of the Tour I'll come back here humbled but I'll believe it when I see it. And if something tangible does come out the I'll have no problem with LeMond commenting on it after the fact but his dropping statements like that at the end of an otherwise unrelated article is pointless imho.
 
oldschoolnik said:
You mean you hate to see criminal's exposed? Yeah, me too!

Wow, public Strategies must have been given the greenlight to go up to $10/hour 9 (or $0.50 per post) as I have never seen such an influx of new posters with less than 10 posts coming so hard to defend their man.

I really don't get why they do it. The opinions of people on this forum don't mean anything in the scheme of things, don't know why PS are bothered.
 
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Aeralik said:
All this stuff has been talked about for years. He has been dodging doping accusations since he first won. The articles on this site about microdosing and transfusions all go back many years. This stuff is not at all new. I dont care what Lance has done drug wise. Its pretty proven the peloton is not as squeaky clean as it may seem.

Regardless, I just think it is wrong for a legend like LeMond to come on here and say that kind of stuff. He should be trying to help out american cycling like he once did instead of becoming a bitter old man.


OMG - another one! HFS! It's like The Matrix when Keanu reeves has to fight all those dudes in black suits and they just keep coming out of the grates!
 
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i didn't peruse all 5 pages but apparently the Wall Street Journal will be publishing an article with Landis that goes more in depth or so I read earlier today. Other than that I don't have any idea.
 
Aeralik said:
All this stuff has been talked about for years. He has been dodging doping accusations since he first won. The articles on this site about microdosing and transfusions all go back many years. This stuff is not at all new. I dont care what Lance has done drug wise. Its pretty proven the peloton is not as squeaky clean as it may seem.
Regardless, I just think it is wrong for a legend like Lemond to come on here and say that kind of stuff. He should be trying to help out american cycling like he once did instead of becoming a bitter old man.

I'll have an order of "They're all doing it", with a side of "LeMond's just bitter". Gimme a Coke and some fries and make it to go.

One more for the ignore list.
 

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steelguitar said:
His article about peaking was pathetic. he offered a little info about the process, a lot of whining about guys he used to beat who dropped him and made a big excuse about fatigue and overtraining costing him the 92 tour. Every article he writes will throw a bomb at Lance. Perhaps the French police found a way to link Lance and some of HIS RS teammates to the Syringes found in last years TDF. Hate to see peoples careers ruined in this manner. It will not be good for the sport.

It must be very dark up there. The smell must be horrendous too. You're really earning your money, eh?