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Démare with his trademark Bontempi length sprints. Longer even, sometimes.

I'll never understand how he can come from 25 riders back to win like at Paris-Nice yet can't beat the best sprinters. It's just odd.
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He just isn't great at positioning himself well, he's the kind of guy who needs a good leadout.
I don't know why they don't use Reza as his leadout man, he was a good one for Coquard, jet FDJ almost never use him as a leadout man for Demare.
 
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GuyIncognito said:
Démare with his trademark Bontempi length sprints. Longer even, sometimes.

I'll never understand how he can come from 25 riders back to win like at Paris-Nice yet can't beat the best sprinters. It's just odd.
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He just isn't great at positioning himself well, he's the kind of guy who needs a good leadout.
I don't know why they don't use Reza as his leadout man, he was a good one for Coquard, jet FDJ almost never use him as a leadout man for Demare.
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But even in a good position he gets beaten by the likes of Boonen. Yet every once in a while he'll come from 500m back overtaking everyone. It makes no sense.
 
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Mayomaniac said:
GuyIncognito said:
Démare with his trademark Bontempi length sprints. Longer even, sometimes.

I'll never understand how he can come from 25 riders back to win like at Paris-Nice yet can't beat the best sprinters. It's just odd.
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He just isn't great at positioning himself well, he's the kind of guy who needs a good leadout.
I don't know why they don't use Reza as his leadout man, he was a good one for Coquard, jet FDJ almost never use him as a leadout man for Demare.
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But even in a good position he gets beaten by the likes of Boonen. Yet every once in a while he'll come from 500m back overtaking everyone. It makes no sense.
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He isn't very explosive, can't really fight for position well, but can keep a highish speed for a long long sprint. Therefore what needs to do is launch from afar à la Kristoff, and hope that the others are a bit gassed and don't have the little nitro boost to jump him. At least I am happy he did launch, in the Eneco a few weeks back when Sagan won or in the Giro (stage 5), he was in similarish situations (bunch sprint, but in terms of position), hesitated to launch and lost some speed. Once he loses some speed he can't gain it back, he doesn't have that second kick.

So for him it's all about hoping the race is painful enough to blunt the edge of the other sprinters, and launching from afar to win by gassing them. It's how he should play it anyway. It will fail most of the time, but he can still get great wins like in MSR, Paris Nice, etc.. just less than an explosive "normal" sprinter.

EDIT : dang it, Netserk summarised it pretty well.
 
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He just simply lacks the kick.

With a super train at very high speed, I'm sure he's one of the very best.
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Yes, with a monster train like the one that Kittel had in 2014 he could be one of the very best.
But he's good enough to be a contender and win hard one day races.
He was also pretty strong in the 2014 edition of Paris - Roubaix, so maybe he has the potential to really focus on that race.
 
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Netserk said:
He just simply lacks the kick.

With a super train at very high speed, I'm sure he's one of the very best.
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Yes, with a monster train like the one that Kittel had in 2014 he could be one of the very best.
But he's good enough to be a contender and win hard one day races.
He was also pretty strong in the 2014 edition of Paris - Roubaix, so maybe he has the potential to really focus on that race.
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The thing is, although it means his victories will be nice, once you start focussing on more classic like races, you have so much less opportunities to score than if you remain a regular sprinter... With his change in focus after the first few years of his career, he will be hard pressed to score more than 5 victories per year whereas guys like Bouhanni will keep scoring 10/12 per year.

Still he got his Milan San Remo, if he adds a few more classics like GW, Paris Tours and such and manages another monument at some point, he'll have had a great career. I personnally think his lack of kick means he'll never manage to compete for the win on RVV, but Roubaix is doable at some point in his career, à la Hushovd sort of.
 
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Matej Mohoric wins the queen stage (stage 6) of tour de Hainan 2016. He used his descending skill to catch Lutsenko, who attached 2km from the summit.
And it's his first pro win.
 
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