Lesser Known Race Results 2020

[Zinoviev Letter]

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Also if he’s genuinely that fast it makes Remco taking him to the line with him in that juniors race even funnier

Even funnier?

It was amusing that Evenpoel was so overconfident that he just rode on the front for km after km with a guy sitting on his wheel and then got jumped. If it turns out that the unknown guy he took to a sprint is the most precocious sprint talent of his generation, it’s even funnier.

 

[Midnightfright]

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Also if he’s genuinely that fast it makes Remco taking him to the line with him in that juniors race even funnier

Even funnier?

It was amusing that Evenpoel was so overconfident that he just rode on the front for km after km with a guy sitting on his wheel and then got jumped. If it turns out that the unknown guy he took to a sprint is the most precocious sprint talent of his generation, it’s even funnier.

Rider allegiances aside that would be funny. Imagine looking back now on a story of a rider happily riding for Kms with Griepel or Cavendish on there wheel just to be well and truly mugged at the end

 

[Flamin]

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Also if he’s genuinely that fast it makes Remco taking him to the line with him in that juniors race even funnier

Even funnier?

It was amusing that Evenpoel was so overconfident that he just rode on the front for km after km with a guy sitting on his wheel and then got jumped. If it turns out that the unknown guy he took to a sprint is the most precocious sprint talent of his generation, it’s even funnier.

It was a stage race. Evenepoel was just riding to win the race, hence he didn't bother (and rightfully so) that some guy who couldn't take any pulls and who he was going to murder later in the race anyway, was sitting on his wheel. Nothing to do with overconfidence it happens all the time, guys riding for gc towing better sprinters to the line (and Remco obviously couldn't know about Ghirmay's sprinting skills).

 

[yaco]

Ghirmay finished 66th and 75th in the first two stages. Need to watch the finish of the three stages to get a better guide on his sprinting capabilities.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

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Also if he’s genuinely that fast it makes Remco taking him to the line with him in that juniors race even funnier

Even funnier?

It was amusing that Evenpoel was so overconfident that he just rode on the front for km after km with a guy sitting on his wheel and then got jumped. If it turns out that the unknown guy he took to a sprint is the most precocious sprint talent of his generation, it’s even funnier.

It was a stage race. Evenepoel was just riding to win the race, hence he didn't bother (and rightfully so) that some guy who couldn't take any pulls and who he was going to murder later in the race anyway, was sitting on his wheel. Nothing to do with overconfidence it happens all the time, guys riding for gc towing better sprinters to the line (and Remco obviously couldn't know about Ghirmay's sprinting skills).

If you look back at the post race interviews posted in the Evenepoel thread at the time, you will find that he wasn’t quite as blasé about being mugged as you are implying here.

 

[DNP-Old]

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Ghirmay finished 66th and 75th in the first two stages. Need to watch the finish of the three stages to get a better guide on his sprinting capabilities.

He’s quick, but he’s not a bunch sprinter. He also crashed in the last kilometers of the first stage, resulting in a 75th place in s.t., and a 66th place almost an hour down.

 

[Flamin]

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Also if he’s genuinely that fast it makes Remco taking him to the line with him in that juniors race even funnier

Even funnier?

It was amusing that Evenpoel was so overconfident that he just rode on the front for km after km with a guy sitting on his wheel and then got jumped. If it turns out that the unknown guy he took to a sprint is the most precocious sprint talent of his generation, it’s even funnier.

It was a stage race. Evenepoel was just riding to win the race, hence he didn't bother (and rightfully so) that some guy who couldn't take any pulls and who he was going to murder later in the race anyway, was sitting on his wheel. Nothing to do with overconfidence it happens all the time, guys riding for gc towing better sprinters to the line (and Remco obviously couldn't know about Ghirmay's sprinting skills).

If you look back at the post race interviews posted in the Evenepoel thread at the time, you will find that he wasn’t quite as blasé about being mugged as you are implying here.

Well, that he was racing to win the overall, doesn't automatically mean he shouldn't be unhappy about losing the stage now, does it? especially not after being wheelsucked so blatantly.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

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Ghirmay finished 66th and 75th in the first two stages. Need to watch the finish of the three stages to get a better guide on his sprinting capabilities.

Don’t think the first two stages would tell us anything as he wasn’t involved in the sprint. We do need to see the finish of the stage he won, because on the face of it an 18 year old winning a big bunch sprint against that competition is even more surprising than the 20 year old Gaviria beating Cavendish in the early season a few years ago. Particularly if the 18 year old isn’t considered a proper bunch sprinter as DNP-Old says (although it’s worth pointing out that a Kittel wasn’t considered a bunch sprinter at 18 either).

It could be that he was a late attacker or went super early or something.

 

[DJ Sprtsch]

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Ghirmay finished 66th and 75th in the first two stages. Need to watch the finish of the three stages to get a better guide on his sprinting capabilities.

Don’t think the first two stages would tell us anything as he wasn’t involved in the sprint. We do need to see the finish of the stage he won, because on the face of it an 18 year old winning a big bunch sprint against that competition is even more surprising than the 20 year old Gaviria beating Cavendish in the early season a few years ago. Particularly if the 18 year old isn’t considered a proper bunch sprinter as DNP-Old says (although it’s worth pointing out that a Kittel wasn’t considered a bunch sprinter at 18 either).

It could be that he was a late attacker or went super early or something.

Appaently it was a bunch sprint - http://dehai.org/dehai/dehai-news/303688

 

[Tim Booth]

"I have not doubted myself for one second," he commented after his first success with the professionals. I felt that I had good legs, just had to wait until the last moment to start my sprint. My teammates have well prepared the ground to place me in the best conditions. "

 

[DNP-Old]

The final was too hard to consider it a legit bunch sprint. 1.6k, 5.5% climb in the last three kilometers. The peloton was split in so many groups too.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

According to some twitter stats nerd, this was the first ever win by a rider born in the 2000s in a pro race.

 

[RedheadDane]

Great... Thanks. Now I feel old...
And, yes, I know people born in 2000 are turning 19 this year, which means that riders born in 2000 are too old to be juniors. Well, that's not making me feel any less old.

 

[Squire]

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According to some twitter stats nerd, this was the first ever win by a rider born in the 2000s in a pro race.

You don't need to be a very big nerd to figure that out. No 1st year U23 won in the TDU or in Tachira, so it's more or less a given.

 

[Robert5091]

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So, something odd happened on stage 2; a guy went down in a crash - and disappeared behind the barrier - while his bike was dragged over by another rider.
Does that mean his placement is actually based on when his bike crossed the line?

Yeah, I wondered what was going on there too!

(Edit - I see on Youtube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSg8cwLf8vI at 2min 25 sec an overhead shot and one guys bike gets entangled with the rider in front. One rider goes behind the barriers and his bike gets dragged over the line. Question is, if the rider runs after his bike over the line, what time does he get?! edit - 3km rule of course! - I'm dumb sometimes )

Chapeau Biniam Girmay! 18 years old ... yep, I feel old as well.

 

[Joop2019]

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Ghirmay finished 66th and 75th in the first two stages. Need to watch the finish of the three stages to get a better guide on his sprinting capabilities.

Apparently it was a bunch sprint

Indeed

 

[del1962]

When does the Biniam Girmay bandwagon start

 

[Robert5091]

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When does the Biniam Girmay bandwagon start

Too late! It already had back in November - Eritrea tv's 30 minute documentary on the man himself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJyuI4AbF8w.

When's Remco Evenepoel's documentary on national tv then?

 

[Joop2019]

Stefan Bissegger won stage two of the 2019 Grassroots Trust New Zealand Cycle Classic

 

[tobydawq]

This is just going awfully for Greipel.

 

[Bye Bye Bicycle]

Seems like we are still waiting for the first UCI win by a rider born in the 2000s...

 

[RedheadDane]

What do you mean?
Did Ghirmay headbutt someone in the sprint?

 

[Robert5091]

Lorrenzo Manzin wins stage 4 La Tropicale Amissa Bongo - sprint finish, Bonifazio 2nd, Pelucci 3rd & Greipel comes in 4th -

Full result at https://twitter.com/tropicale2019 and video of finish at https://twitter.com/i/status/1088520451540897792

 

[Flamin]

Ghirmay relegated from 2nd place for not holding his line in the sprint. Not a clue why though, as he did nothing wrong.

 

[DJ Sprtsch]

20 year old Sirak Tesfom, currently 3rd in the Amissa Bongo GC, appears to a pretty decent rider too.