Lesser known races 2023 edition

[SafeBet]

Bandito proving he belongs.

 

[DNP-Old]

Austrian Evenepoel 3rd!

 

[Orbit501]

Steimle nearly closed the gap down for the peloton on his own by getting it down to 12 secs.
Back out to over a minute now with 10km to go.
These 23 aren't coming back.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Bandito proving he belongs.

Some people in Italy will be salty...

 

[Mayomaniac]

Austrian Evenepoel 3rd!

Nah, he's an actual climber.

I did mention Cabedo before the race, since he's a climber and this was his first race with a hard mtf this season, but I didn't expect this from Vergallito.

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

Breakaway starting to attack each other with the gap decreasing.

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

O’Brien from Jayco with a gap and Askey chasing for Demare.

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

Demare wins.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Happy days at FDJ! (well at least until the Tour team is announced)

Tobias Lund will get that first pro win some day, probably sooner rather than later.

 

[Mayomaniac]

A decent win before the Tour for Gaudu's daddy.

 

[Bolder]

Démare getting closer to 100 wins, correct? Send him to the Tour!

 

[Rob5091]

Démare has had his say in Brussels, now let's see what Gaudu can do.

 

[tobydawq]

Démare getting closer to 100 wins, correct? Send him to the Tour!

Well, everybody gets closer to 100 wins every time they win (unless they're already past that)

 

[DJ Sprtsch]

Nah, he's an actual climber.

I did mention Cabedo before the race, since he's a climber and this was his first race with a hard mtf this season, but I didn't expect this from Vergallito.

Do you know anything abut this Luca Vergallito fella? What was he up to between 2018-2022? Thanks in advance...

 

[Mayomaniac]

Do you know anything abut this Luca Vergallito fella? What was he up to between 2018-2022? Thanks in advance...

Studing sports science and doing granfondos.
Canyon did a short interview with him: https://www.canyon.com/en-de/blog-content/road-cycling-news/luca-vergallito-q-and-a/b31012023.html

 

[Netserk]

Well, everybody gets closer to 100 wins every time they win (unless they're already past that)

It doesn't pass the significance threshold unless it cuts the gap by at least 10 %.

 

[SafeBet]

The rise of Vergallito tells you everything you need to know about the state of Italian youth cycling. He was completely overlooked during his u23 years. He quit cycling with zero awareness about his potential. Went back to school, studied a lot of papers and researches, copied other pros (from different sports also) training methods, started a podcast, became a trainer himself. He achieved a much higher level by training alone (and using an evidence based approach) than when he was with his u23 team...

His podcast with Mattia Gaffuri, another forme u23 rider, recent winner of the New York granfondo, is really enlightening.

 

[tobydawq]

It doesn't pass the significance threshold unless it cuts the gap by at least 10 %.

That's some way of phrasing it

 

[Mayomaniac]

The rise of Vergallito tells you everything you need to know about the state of Italian youth cycling. He was completely overlooked during his u23 years. He quit cycling with zero awareness about his potential. Went back to school, studied a lot of papers and researches, copied other pros (from different sports also) training methods, started a podcast, became a trainer himself. He achieved a much higher level by training alone (and using an evidence based approach) than when he was with his u23 team...

His podcast with Mattia Gaffuri, another forme u23 rider, recent winner of the New York granfondo, is really enlightening.

My impression is that outside of the guys coming up in the Trentino & Friuli (in the junior and u23 ranks) it's doom and gloom (if we ignore the Track guys, who have actually good coaches from the national team looking at their development since a young age). Tiberi also had a coach from the NT following him as a junior and Milesi started cycling really late after a football injury.

The more I look at it the more I'm convinced that looking at numbers and a young cyclists training log over the last 1-2 years is a much better indicator of his potential than results when it comes to getting a chance in the u23 ranks (or even later). Vergallito only started cycling in the junior ranks, so of course it would take him some time to catch up and he wouldn't get results there and maybe even as a first year u23 rider.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Demare!!!. Good man. Still going strong.

 

[Bolder]

Well, everybody gets closer to 100 wins every time they win (unless they're already past that)

Indeed 94 for him now…

 

[SafeBet]

My impression is that outside of the guys coming up in the Trentino & Friuli (in the junior and u23 ranks) it's doom and gloom (if we ignore the Track guys, who have actually good coaches from the national team looking at their development since a young age). Tiberi also had a coach from the NT following him as a junior and Milesi started cycling really late after a football injury.

The more I look at it the more I'm convinced that looking at numbers and a young cyclists training log over the last 1-2 years is a much better indicator of his potential than results when it comes to getting a chance in the u23 ranks (or even later). Vergallito only started cycling in the junior ranks, so of course it would take him some time to catch up and he wouldn't get results there and maybe even as a first year u23 rider.

You make valid points.
At the same time if your training regime, nutrition ("don't eat!") and general approach to sports is all wrong your numbers will hardly tell how big your engine is, unless you're a total freak like Evenepoel. Nobody would have given a contract to Vergallito by looking at his numbers when he was an u23.

 

[RedheadDane]

Interesting hot seat placement in the ZLM Toer...

 

[lemon cheese cake]

Interesting hot seat placement in the ZLM Toer...

Steep, quite rattely and unguarded start ramp as well!

 

[RedheadDane]

Eekhoff wins the prologue.