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Lesser Known Road Racing for Women Thread

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So, which one do I drop? First time for over a decade I've had to drop Lizzie :(
 
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Very strange tactics by the peleton - The three leaders had around 30 seconds with 33kms to go - Peleton has teams with multiple riders who were not riding coherently, but then went the two other break away riders crashed with 8kms to go the sole leader Cedrine still had only 15 seconds to go - The peleton wasn't working well and then three riders clipped off the front with 3kms to go, however, the other two riders would not help the Movistar rider - If the two other riders helped the Movistar ride they bring back Cedrine.
 
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So I see stories of Vollering getting a €1million per year contract which to me seems a bit out of whack for where Womens cycling is at in its development. I imagine some of the teams at the lower end of the WWT are operating on a total budget of around that figure. Like Roland, 12 riders, no real household names unless Kiesenhofer, so I cannot imagine any big salaries there. There is only 15 WWT teams as well, so you can almost guarantee that many teams below that level are on much smaller budgets when there is no minimum wage.

I guess if SD Worx can afford it, why not? But surely this sets a precedent for the other stars on the team, I mean Kopecky is not far of Vollering and Reusser had a great season last year, add in Wiebes etc. SD Worx are already dominant on the road and with AVV out of the way, it could get worse. I just don't think one team dwarfing the competition on and off the road is necessarily good for the continued development of the sport.
 
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pmcg76 said:
So I see stories of Vollering getting a €1million per year contract which to me seems a bit out of whack for where Womens cycling is at in its development. I imagine some of the teams at the lower end of the WWT are operating on a total budget of around that figure. Like Roland, 12 riders, no real household names unless Kiesenhofer, so I cannot imagine any big salaries there. There is only 15 WWT teams as well, so you can almost guarantee that many teams below that level are on much smaller budgets when there is no minimum wage.

I guess if SD Worx can afford it, why not? But surely this sets a precedent for the other stars on the team, I mean Kopecky is not far of Vollering and Reusser had a great season last year, add in Wiebes etc. SD Worx are already dominant on the road and with AVV out of the way, it could get worse. I just don't think one team dwarfing the competition on and off the road is necessarily good for the continued development of the sport.
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The story is that UAE has offered her that, while Danny Stam has said that he can't afford such a deal.
 
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Samu Cuenca said:
The story is that UAE has offered her that, while Danny Stam has said that he can't afford such a deal.
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That would make more sense for sure, UAE just throwing money around, although it would be good to see the talent on SD Worx spread around a bit. Was looking back and in 2022 only 25 WWT riders were on 6 figure salaries, probably a few more now, but is still a huge jump up to a million. I see Lefevre saying budget for AG-Soudal was €2million and I imagine the likes of Human Powered Health, Ceratizit, Roland and maybe a few others operate in the same 1-2million budget range.
 
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That would make more sense for sure, UAE just throwing money around, although it would be good to see the talent on SD Worx spread around a bit. Was looking back and in 2022 only 25 WWT riders were on 6 figure salaries, probably a few more now, but is still a huge jump up to a million. I see Lefevre saying budget for AG-Soudal was €2million and I imagine the likes of Human Powered Health, Ceratizit, Roland and maybe a few others operate in the same 1-2million budget range.
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I assume Roland has less money after the IPT relationship ended, while HPH has got an increased budget after the men's team got scrapped. Since AGI-S is running both a U23 and a junior team as well, the entire budget is probably larger than €2million.

I'm not surprised UAE has the funds, but this move is still a bit out of the ordinary. I know they did take over the Valcar team to get their riders and Davide Arzeni as a DS, but there were some good logic and, it seemed, a long term plan involved in that deal, while this alleged Vollering bid seems a lot more desperate.
 
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Sure, but SDW's main strength is to have numbers, and if they paid Vollering a million, they'd soon have to pay their other riders a lot more, too, and although the SDW family has given them more money, it would still be bad business.
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But if UAE are offering that either SD Worx match it, or Demi has to choose which team she'd be happier at.

On the face of it SD Worx are the team to be at due to their recent success

but we know that comes with some friction amongst the riders, maybe especially as egos grow bigger and each of them decides they should be the favoured rider.

It's a tough one for Demi, though she spends most of her time during the season in a campervan, so doesn't seem the materialistic money type, but one presumes Wiebes is currently the highest salaried rider at SDWorx and that Demi is worth at least as much as Wiebes deal which was 500,000 wasn't it ?

At which point Kopecky probably demands as much and suddenly a team of such big hitters doesn't seem so smart anymore.
 
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Movistar were paying AVV north of half a million.
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Movistar could recoup that money simply from AvV promoting the Movistar brand, I'm guessing she must have appeared in ads for their mobile phones etc in Holland or Spain, and it was probably offset against various subsidiaries of Movistar.

How does SDWork recoup the money? It won't be from prize money from winning races in wwt. They might be a Euro brand for HR software solutions, but its a bit of niche market, sponsoring a bike team is one thing, finding 1million euros to pay one rider seems a bit out of their league to be honest. UAE of course don't have that problem as they're just given money by the state.
 
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Contracts in women's cycling are very linked to Olympic cycles, there may be quite a number of changes for next season. UAE potentially spending big will certainly rock a few teams.
SDWorx have only a few riders under contract for next season, Wiebes being the only big star.
My feeling is Kopecky is the more likely to leave, perhaps to AG.
 
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