Levi Leipheimer

[ElChingon]

I wonder if Cavendish has sent Levi a thank you gift? Letter?

 

[Berzin]

Bottom line is Leipheimer has been spat out, and good riddance.

There is no pressing need for an aging, sputtering has-been with a grand total of 75 UCI points to find a place in the European peloton.

Let a young neo-pro or two take his place. No need to waste anymore time or energy discussing guys like him.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

He does kinda look like a good boy. Don't ya just want to give him a squeeze.

Or maybe choke his eyeballs out

hehehe.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

See, I thought Leipheimer's wording was fairly smart in that he doesn't explicitly deny doping after 2007, which I have no doubt he did do, for the reason quoted. However if you consider these quotes with respect to CVV, they're meaningful. Can you top 5 at the Tour clean? CVV clearly states that he has used nothing since April 2006. O rly?

ryder hesjedal? brad wiggins?

 

[perfessor]

Exactly. If LL stopped doping in 2007, then he would be the first rider ever to post his best grand tour result post doping. No way. Furthermore his late career results, as well as those of Horner, scream of continued and probably intensified doping. He is, and always has been, a Weasel.

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[blackcat]

See, I thought Leipheimer's wording was fairly smart in that he doesn't explicitly deny doping after 2007, which I have no doubt he did do, for the reason quoted. However if you consider these quotes with respect to CVV, they're meaningful. Can you top 5 at the Tour clean? CVV clearly states that he has used nothing since April 2006. O rly?

yeah. I call BS too.

 

[Rui Quinta]

Don't worry, Levi. Garmin is waitting you.

 

[hiero2]

Re-reading the interview with Leipheimer, I can't help but think he's trying to reassure the peloton that he's sticking to the omertà. "I confessed because I had to, there was no way out, it's not that I wanted to speak. But look! I'm sticking to the clean era mantra, I say I've been clean for 5 seasons, I even say dirty riders make up perhaps 5% of the peloton nowadays. I'm being a good boy. Please don't shun me".

See, I thought Leipheimer's wording was fairly smart in that he doesn't explicitly deny doping after 2007, which I have no doubt he did do, for the reason quoted. . . .

I won't say this is evidence - given the source - but it does support what you guys are saying.

O - and I agree with the tricksy wording in LL's statement. I noticed that when I read it, too.

Boonen:
"Levi's dismissal, that was only normal. And afterwards I read here and there that Levi had already told us everything, that's completely untrue. Alessandro* himself told me that Levi gave a big speech in the team bus, to say that all the allegations were false. And.. [shrug]. It was all a bunch of bull****. So, [his being fired], that was only logical."

Even if Boonen is dirty, or at least complicit in Omerta, this does tend to lead us to believe OPQS did not believe Levi has stayed clean. Either that or they are saying Levi lied to them about the USADA investigation itself.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Don't worry, Levi. Garmin is waitting you.

no way. I think his career is over and I'm glad for it. not because of dopjng but the type of ****rider he was. he deserves this

 

[webvan]

Any fresh news from Lepi? Is he going the way of the dodo ?

 

[Cloxxki]

no way. I think his career is over and I'm glad for it. not because of dopjng but the type of ****rider he was. he deserves this

In soccer, would a defensive team deserve more public disgust for being on a program than an offensive team with nice style?
The way I seee it, LL made possible with limited talent (or ability in % to gain from doping) thanks to economic riding. Yeah a wheelsucker, but with wins, even after he went clean ;-)

 

[Hugh Januss]

In soccer, would a defensive team deserve more public disgust for being on a program than an offensive team with nice style?
The way I seee it, LL made possible with limited talent (or ability in % to gain from doping) thanks to economic riding. Yeah a wheelsucker, but with wins, even after he went clean ;-)

I'd rather watch Levi plug along than crybaby Andy explaining why he has failed again.

 

[blackcat]

from donkey

to racehorse

and back to donkey

the Tale of Levi. It sounds like an Old Testament parable

 

[Athame]

Anyway, I just wish that someone with some money would sponsor a team and hire everyone who's actually talked about this, as an 'eff you' to the omerta crap still going on.

_______ Wasn't that team called Rock Racing?

 

[webvan]

No one had talked at the time...they were all still lying!

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

from donkey

to racehorse

and back to donkey

the Tale of Levi. It sounds like an Old Testament parable

I believe the bible referred to donkeys and 'asses', making your point even more relevant.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

In soccer, would a defensive team deserve more public disgust for being on a program than an offensive team with nice style?
The way I seee it, LL made possible with limited talent (or ability in % to gain from doping) thanks to economic riding. Yeah a wheelsucker, but with wins, even after he went clean ;-)

my hate for leipheimer is non-clinic related like I said. whatever the reason, I'm glad he's out.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Good riddance to Levi Losewhiner. Guy raced like the tool he is.

 

[UncleChainwhip]

The 'benefit of a doubt' never really applied to Levi. He was busted for dope like, twice, as an amateur. Never actually tried to hide it as a pro either. For me, the laughing started when he took out the US national ITT '95 in Cinncinnati-----beating the elite men's Tandem TT winners by ~20 seconds on a flat course. Usual margin is 2-4 minutes slower! He could have taken out world records and rainbows with that kind of juicing.

An old school pro axiom was 'never win a race by more than you have to'. Unfortunately, prior to radios and a large staff roadside coupled with a late starting position, pro riders time trialing would often show their obvious augmentation.

Faith in Lance? I still remember a dozen Colorado neo-pros quitting the sport after Lance/Ochowicz did the dirty deal for a measly million dollars in 1993......Some of us learned the first time we got fooled!

 

[Athame]

the dirty deal

dirty is as dirty does. man, was la just filthy from the digity-digity
get go?

 

[Athame]

No new news? Is it going to be LL vrs. Mancebo this year or will he hang up the chamois?

____________________ question: iirc, on a Dylan Casey thread someone posted something about a Gaggioli EPO ring supplying LL in the Yay Area......

____________________ no real dirt was dished. Anyone? Bueller, . . .. Bueller?

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Seriously, I can't be the only one smelling that. Quite odious it is.

 

[Athame]

Seriously, I can't be the only one smelling that. Quite odious it is.

Don't know what you think you smell but by tone of your post I know you're off the scent.

_________________ me: used to live in the Bay Area Late 90s/early 2000s. Road a fixed gear on the Noon ride in Palo Alto, sometimes the Valley Ride. Been following procycling ever since Bauer took second at Paris Roubaix. Been on here lurking since, well, 3 years before you.

 

[BroDeal]

Been on here lurking since, well, 3 years before you.

Want to bet on that?

 

[Athame]

Want to bet on that?

Well, perhaps not however, iirc I joined right when this place very very first opened and therefore, just by simple rules of thought, I've been here from almost the very beginning. Now, if this group is some collection of collections from various message boards, cycling forums of past, et al., or, even old teammates, or even all of that combined [which probably it is], that seems sort of inconsequential to my long standing membership in THIS place.

I got called out and I perryed and then reposte. Were I "odious" it would have been sniffed out long ago. Again: I flick with "off the scent" and consider this derobement.


__________________________ humm, I'm going to go hunt down that old thread with the RG referrence.