Look at me, I am a Vegan! Can I persuade you to become one too?

[durianrider]

I hear your point but just look at how many miles I do on strava during the year yet how lean I am in my youtube vids all year long. Its not the calories, its what those calories are made off. I pick foods LOW on the insulin index list. High carb LOW FAT LOW PROTEIN plant foods create the slim body longterm REGARDLESS of physical out put. Just go visit SE Asia, Africa, India etc where nobody is doing threshold efforts or even knows what watts per kg is etc.

Then get those people and put em on the high insulin index foods like animal products 3x a day and watch em blow out. Same with cyclists that get injured but are eating the wrong stuff. Put em on the Durianrider clean n mean diet and watch em hit TDF bodyweights over time.

Doesnt happen overnight BUT like fitness, it DOES happen with consistent effort.

Its not genetic either cos nobody in my direct family is as lean as I am. Nobody in my direct family eats the same either. My brother Julian is getting there though recently and feeling positive gains.

Besides, who wants to eat a diet with no pasta, rice, fruit, sugar etc? Certainly not me. I like feeling lean and fast on the bike with no stimulants required. I like having relatively high watts per kg regardless of how much training Im doing. I eat to stay light. I train to be fast. Does that make sense?

Training = fitness.
Eating right = slim.
Combine the 2 for the best of both worlds. For life.

 

[durianrider]

durainrider is the man. and i cant wait until he hits the big 50 when just one bagel puts him above his deficit regardless of intensity.

Look at Dr Esselstyn, Doug Graham, Colin Campbell, Dr Barnard, Pam Popper, Dr Mc Dougall etc. ALL over 50 and none of em are super duper cardio fit but ALL of them are trim on this high carb low fat low protein vegan thing.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Got a link to the Strava challenge you won?

This is the only link I could find: http://www.strava.com/challenges/ride-base-mile-blast

 

[Polyarmour]

I see Ferminal has it as 6:46 for Thomas. (Not sure where from--maybe off TV)
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?p=1119842#post1119842

From that someone on that thread estimates Thomas at 6.5 watts/kg (465 w gross).

Tapeworm's source has 7:36 for Ben Hermans, 6.8 watts/kg (434 w gross):
http://www.ridemedia.com.au/?p=8421

Ben Hermans posted his ride to Strava. 7.52 over the Strava start and finish points.

http://app.strava.com/segments/632509

Geraint Thomas would be under this time as he was solo over the top but by how much given he was caught on the descent just a minute or two later? My guess is 10 to 20 seconds? If it was 50 seconds as Ferminal suggests I'm wondering how he was caught so quickly? In any case it was a super ride by Geraint Thomas and I think DR's time of 8.30 up there is pretty solid too. Much of the peloton would have been over this.

 

[durianrider]

Got a link to the Strava challenge you won?

This is the only link I could find: http://www.strava.com/challenges/ride-base-mile-blast

Look at them elevation gainz Wiggo. All on em there vegan plant food nutrition weirdo stuff!

http://app.strava.com/challenges/cycling-base-mile-blast-2013

 

[durianrider]

Ben Hermans posted his ride to Strava. 7.52 over the Strava start and finish points.

http://app.strava.com/segments/632509

Geraint Thomas would be under this time as he was solo over the top but by how much given he was caught on the descent just a minute or two later? My guess is 10 to 20 seconds? If it was 50 seconds as Ferminal suggests I'm wondering how he was caught so quickly? In any case it was a super ride by Geraint Thomas and I think DR's time of 8.30 up there is pretty solid too. Much of the peloton would have been over this.

I think Ferminal is tripping if he thinks GT was 50 seconds quicker. I was standing on the last hair pin that day and they were all really close together. Ive got some video footage I will mash up and put on my youtube channel soon as Im doing some more vids about climbing tips and these lads were really spinning up the corkie in high cadence cassette selection.

I did a few rides with Hermans. Really nice guy and down to earth. I will get down to the 8.10's by the end of this month. Did another 8:30 today on strava lol! Not even a second quicker than my current pb.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

durainrider is the man. and i cant wait until he hits the big 50 when just one bagel puts him above his deficit regardless of intensity.

That's what happened to me, but around 45. Now, I walk by a salad bar get a whiff and gain a pound. It's crazy.

 

[simo1733]

What dies GPS verified mean?

 

[durianrider]

That's what happened to me, but around 45. Now, I walk by a salad bar get a whiff and gain a pound. It's crazy.

Time to get on the high carb low fat vegan bandwagon boss. Look at all them trim high carb vegan authors that don't exactly even ride bikes up hills like us folk here on CN forum.

 

[durianrider]

What dies GPS verified mean?

Mean you actually did the ride and can verify it with a map, strava segments passed thru etc. Some people in those Strava Base Mile challenge just upload random 200km rides whenever they feel like it. One guy did a 351km manual entry on the last day lol!

 

[durianrider]

Look at me, Im a Vegan and just cracked the top 10 on the most popular climb in Australia...



http://app.strava.com/segments/1013950

On a 7 year old alloy bike with 9 year old wheels and groupset and a used water bottle I found on the side of the road a few months back.

 

[rickshaw]

I'm confused

Look at me, Im a Vegan and just cracked the top 10 on the most popular climb in Australia...E]

So Harley, you haven't mentioned bananas in forever. What's up with that? You haven't abandoned the "raw vegan lifestyle" have you? And why no pics of Boobsalot? You haven't broken up have ya?

This is important stuff and you owe it to your fans. Updates please. Raw Vegan first, then the girl.

 

[durianrider]

Havent you seen our latest videos on our youtube channels? Go take a sneak.


Basically I got diagnosed with a protein deficiency and now work at KFC so its easier and cheaper for me to get protein. Freelee left me for this paleo diet author. He is 60 years old but looks great after 10 years of HGH therapy.


Im happy now I guess. Maybe its just the meds the doc got me on. I get to fit in and am back at the pub. Ive put on 40lbs but its all muscle, not a gram of fat. Id post some photos but not sure how to upload to the net. But Im ripped as on this KFC diet.

Bananas and fit chicks? Nah brah! Thats just weird!

 

[Jackie Treehorn]

What a butter face

 

[rickshaw]

just when i thought i knew everything....

What a butter face

Butter face, comment?, thought I, so I looks it up, "But her face", everything but her face. Doh! That is way too cold. We're all supposed to be friends here. Remember mate, the jugs ain't real so you might want to check the warranty before making a commitment.

And Harley, I never would have pegged you for having a sense of humor. My respect has grown more than I ever could have imagined.

(BTW, do you think kumquats would be a good substitute for nanas? I might be able to do 30 of those in a day.)

 

[hiero2]

Butter face, comment?, thought I, so I looks it up, "But her face", everything but her face. Doh! That is way too cold. We're all supposed to be friends here. Remember mate, the jugs ain't real so you might want to check the warranty before making a commitment.

And Harley, I never would have pegged you for having a sense of humor. My respect has grown more than I ever could have imagined.

(BTW, do you think kumquats would be a good substitute for nanas? I might be able to do 30 of those in a day.)

Yeah - that was cold! And not accurate, either.

DR humor - I never would have expected, either.

 

[Jackie Treehorn]

Remember mate, the jugs ain't real so you might want to check the warranty before making a commitment.

Can we be sure that no animal matter was used in the production of those bolt-on jugs?

 

[Jackie Treehorn]

Look at me, Im a Vegan and just cracked the top 10 on the most popular climb in Australia...



http://app.strava.com/segments/1013950

And look, you have a bunch of meat eaters in front of you.

C0ck wallet

 

[zeffer21]

If people think eating real food in real amounts is a prison sentence then they need to come eat with me some time!

Id put MONEY on it that I eat more FOOD than ANYONE on this forum. I also eat WAY more variety. Most people only eat a few different animals. They eat the animals that advertising says is ok. Nobody can say that aint true.

Someone mentioned that Zabriskie has to eat salmon a few times a week to get enough iron. Well lets do the math.

A half fillet of salmon is around 0.5mg of iron.
2 generous handfuls of raisins provides around 9mg of iron.

Eating catfood to get enough iron is like collecting cans to buy a house. There is FAR better ways to do it.

You know the funniest thing? People I meet out training that cant even keep up with me on a climb saying 'I couldnt get enough protein as a vegan (even though you could literally eat a kg of plant protein a day if you wanted too). Then I ask em 'how much do we need and how much do you get a day?'. They NEVER know the answer and most of em say 'oh I take a protein powder cos I need more protein..' LMFAO.

So you wont get enough protein, iron, b12 etc as a vegan so NEVER eat like your instincts tell you, just follow orders from the status quo and meaningless traditions based on famine eating habits AND take your vitamin, mineral and protein supplements from the multitude of companies out there offering them. Be a good consumer and dont ask real questions.

But hey, Im crazy right.

Im here in Thailand and the locals are freaking out and how strong I ride. They have known me for years and this season Im the fittest ever. They just shake their heads and cant understand it. Im in NYC next week and will do damage around Central Park. So if you see the vegan streak on the bamboo bike, make sure you say gday.

Here is the bamboo bike in action.

View: http://youtu.be/hkLCsRgzTw8

I agree with you, very good explanation.