LaFlorecita said:Mellow Velo believes Valverde should have won the award.
Tonton said:Nibali, period. No Boonen, Cancellara, Gilbert with multiple classics wins, so the title must go to a GT guy, no questions asked. Not his fault if Dawg and AC abandoned. I just feel uncomfortable that he did so racing for...you know what I mean![]()
Netserk said:Best: Contador
Most consistent/performed throughout the season: Valverde
Biggest single performance/race: Nibali
Honourable mentions to: Gerrans & Kristoff.
LaFlorecita said:So the Tour winner is always the best stage racer of the year![]()
Jspear said:Thank god they realize that there are other races in the season other than the Tour. Having a great Tour doesn't mean you had a great season. They recognize that AC not only did well in the Vuelta, but in the entire season.
Mellow Velo said:Actually, this is what I meant.
If only folks weren't so intent on trying to reading my mind.
You would always expect a bunch of journos to heavily favour the obvious race.
The fact that they don't and have considered the Vuelta, in conjunction with some prime week races more significant that a Tour win, a nationals jersey, but some very indifferent warm up performances, is good.
Echoes said:They just voted for the guy whom they thought would've won Bore if he hadn't had what they thought was bad luck, right?
What has Contadull done on the classics? Nothing.
How many days has he raced? 65.
Less than most top riders, right?
So arguing that he was consistent throughout the year, let me laugh!
The journos from Vélo d'or realise that there are other races than Bore?But lol, yeah beside Bore there's the Tour of Italy or the Tour of Spain but that's it.
The classics never had any existence in their minds, right? In 2003, they should have awarded Van Petegem or at least Bettini but they awarded Armstrong, right?
So, awarding Cancellara or Terpstra would probably never have crossed their minds...
Echoes said:Are you for real?
They just voted for the guy whom they thought would've won Bore if he hadn't had what they thought was bad luck, right?
What has Contadull done on the classics? Nothing. How many days has he raced? 65. Less than most top riders, right? So arguing that he was consistent throughout the year, let me laugh!
The journos from Vélo d'or realise that there are other races than Bore?But lol, yeah beside Bore there's the Tour of Italy or the Tour of Spain but that's it.
The classics never had any existence in their minds, right? In 2003, they should have awarded Van Petegem or at least Bettini but they awarded Armstrong, right?
So, awarding Cancellara or Terpstra would probably never have crossed their minds...
LaFlorecita said:No, they didn't.
You are correct.
Again correct.
Less than Nibali and Valverde. More than Froome and Quintana. Let's not forget Contador would have had 75 race days had he not crashed out of the Tour.
But he was consistent. 2-1-2-1-2-1 were his results in the stage races he finished.
Obviously they care about the 1 week races too, otherwise they would have given the award to Nibali.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vélo_d'Or
In the last 10 years, a classics rider won 4 times, in 2005, 2006, 2010, 2011. In 2007, 2008 and 2012 a classics rider was second. In 2009 a classics rider was third.
Let's wait for the final results, perhaps Terpstra finished 1 point behind Contadoryou're just panicking for nothing like on Wednesday when you freaked out about Cancellara not winning International Flandrien when the winner hadn't even been announced yet.
If Contador wins and classics riders don't, it is not proof that the journalists don't care about the classics. It means they rate Contador's season, consisting of stage races, higher than those of the classics riders. Just accept the fact that most people, including most journalists, don't share your opinion about stage races.
nobilis said:Since you're including .1 races to appraise the season of Contador, how about we talk about Valverde and a record of 1-5-2-4-3 for stage races
and 1-3-1-1-4-1-2-1-3-2 for 1-day classics/races and 2nd in RR nationals and 1st in TT nationals and at least tried himself at some cobbled races and performed decently there?
Netserk said:The correct record for Valverde is:
Stage races: 27-1-5-2-4-3
One-day races: 1-16-3-1-44-36-63-1-27-4-1-2-1-2-1-3-2
Echoes said:Are you for real?
They just voted for the guy whom they thought would've won Bore if he hadn't had what they thought was bad luck, right?
What has Contadull done on the classics? Nothing. How many days has he raced? 65. Less than most top riders, right? So arguing that he was consistent throughout the year, let me laugh!
The journos from Vélo d'or realise that there are other races than Bore?But lol, yeah beside Bore there's the Tour of Italy or the Tour of Spain but that's it.
The classics never had any existence in their minds, right? In 2003, they should have awarded Van Petegem or at least Bettini but they awarded Armstrong, right?
So, awarding Cancellara or Terpstra would probably never have crossed their minds...
nobilis said:At least hi fights on many fronts and still can get wins and podiums. He's a more complete rider than Contador, objectively speaking.
And the comparison won't be complete if you don't include Contador's record in 1-day races : 6-34
Mayomaniac said:Voted for Kristoff, a monument win, a great TDF, varois one day race wins and a beast in RVV. With a little bit of luck he'd have been on the podium in Paris-Roubaix. Kwiat, Valverde and Contador are the other guys that you could pick.
Netserk said:No one has argued that Contador was more complete than Valverde. He was just simply better overall this year and got better results.
Netserk said:The correct record for Valverde is:
Stage races: 27-1-5-2-4-3
One-day races: 1-16-3-1-44-36-63-1-27-4-1-2-1-2-1-3-2
LaFlorecita said:Good pointand only WT?