Male Cyclist of the year (2014)?

[BlurryVII]

If catalonia wasn't screwed over by weather he would have won that too.

Agreed. And if he actually had a team, he would have won Dauphiné as well.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Agreed. And if he actually had a team, he would have won Dauphiné as well.

I think this is the way to go.
Add a few what ifs, ignore a few other what ifs and then it's no contest.

Anyhow, it's only a little poll, right?

 

[BlurryVII]

I think this is the way to go.
Add a few what ifs, ignore a few other what ifs and then it's no contest.

Anyhow, it's only a little poll, right?

What are the other 'ifs' I'm ignoring? I'd be interested to know.

Anyhow, Contador did beat all of the main GC riders throughout the season, and won the GT featuring the toughest field. The Vuelta's winner is the best GT rider this season. You can argue Tour is the biggest race blabla, wasn't worth a penny this year.

 

[Netserk]

Best set of classics results by some margin.
Best overall results in the GTs.
Not forgetting how good he was on the dirt and cobbles in March.
Valverde head and shoulders above everybody else.


Well, outside of here, that is.

Simon Gerrans (others as well) has better classics results this year than Valverde.
Contador, Nibali & Quintana have for obvious reasons better overall results in GTs this year.
He didn't do **** on cobbles (sitting 3rd on a hill ~60km out IIRC and not being anywhere near the front in the final = not doing ****) and the dirt you talk about is mostly insignificant (compared to the hills in that classic).

 

[MellowJohnny]

Where is Marcel Kittel on that list, the Manx Missile slayer.

 

[Piti4Podiums]

Where is Marcel Kittel on that list, the Manx Missile slayer.

I don't think that a pure sprinter like Kittel (with all due respect to my fellow german) should be in contention for "Rider of the Year" given how little excitement there is in winning bunch sprints, and how little impact he has in any other kind of race. He only takes control of the last - lets say - 200m of a stage. Just my honest opinion, i like Marcel (and his hair )

 

[Angliru]

I don't get it how you left out Kristoff and possibly Dan Martin? Both of them won a classic.

You're obviously not familiar with Echo and his/her absolute disregard for any event that lasts longer than one day.

 

[thehook]

Have to say I may be biased but AC was my choice. He beat Froome head to head this season. AV was to me a stellar rider this season. He compiled more then won. And that hurt him. For my vote. He was Most Consistent Cyclist of the Year.

Nibs was a very close 3rd. And his Tour victory to me is well deserved. But he was way off form all year pre-tour.

 

[burning]

You're obviously not familiar with Echo and his/her absolute disregard for any event that lasts longer than one day.

I'm pretty sure Kristoff and Dan Martin both won some big one day races.
It's probably just due to the great "ranking" though.

Win a Classic: 100 Points
Win a stage at TDF: -500 Points

 

[Electress]

Contador. Not just for his wins, but that long-range effort in the Tirreno and coming back so strongly from injury.

 

[greenedge]

Contador rode superbly all year and the only reason I didn't vote for him was because of his TDF crash but that's not his fault.
Nibali won the TDF in great style and even with Contador and Froome there I think would have won. However unlike last year he was really bad in every other race.
If Valverde had podiumed the TDF i would have voted for him but he didn't.

Kwia and Gerrans rode well, but just needed to go well GT wise or win the WC to get the vote.
Therefore i voted Kristoff, whose MSR and TDF wins were very solid and he performed all year round.

 

[cineteq]

Contador rode superbly all year and the only reason I didn't vote for him was because of his TDF crash but that's not his fault.
Nibali won the TDF in great style and even with Contador and Froome there I think would have won. However unlike last year he was really bad in every other race.
If Valverde had podiumed the TDF i would have voted for him but he didn't.

Kwia and Gerrans rode well, but just needed to go well GT wise or win the WC to get the vote.
Therefore i voted Kristoff, whose MSR and TDF wins were very solid and he performed all year round.

You were doing so well until you said you voted for Kristoff.
Tony Martin's not happy.

 

[Angliru]

Contador rode superbly all year and the only reason I didn't vote for him was because of his TDF crash but that's not his fault.
Nibali won the TDF in great style and even with Contador and Froome there I think would have won. However unlike last year he was really bad in every other race.
If Valverde had podiumed the TDF i would have voted for him but he didn't.

Kwia and Gerrans rode well, but just needed to go well GT wise or win the WC to get the vote.
Therefore i voted Kristoff, whose MSR and TDF wins were very solid and he performed all year round.

...but didn't Kwiatkowski win the WC?

 

[movingtarget]

Best set of classics results by some margin.
Best overall results in the GTs.
Not forgetting how good he was on the dirt and cobbles in March.
Valverde head and shoulders above everybody else.


Well, outside of here, that is.

I think he's a fair choice and consistent across the entire season unlike others.

 

[greenedge]

...but didn't Kwiatkowski win the WC?

I meant respectively sorry- like Kwia GT top 10 and Gerrans WC win.

 

[sponsor]

Where is Wiggins?

Something about 485Watts / hour that excites me.

 

[Red Rick]

Something about 485Watts / hour that excites me.

Yeah, maybe

**** no

 

[happytramp]

Bottom line is top of the UCi, CQ, PCS rankings agree on who came out tops.

Yeah, but the poll isn't for "rider with the most top 10 finishes"

 

[Mellow Velo]

Yeah, but the poll isn't for "rider with the most top 10 finishes"

I know.
Its about who is the rider here most liked.
Of course it should be partially about podium finishes in the classic races.

Simon Gerrans (others as well) has better classics results this year than Valverde.

Did he though?

Race: Gerrans Valverde
MSR:- DNS DNS
AGR:- 3rd 4th
FW:- DNS 1st
LBL:- 1st 2nd
CSS:- DNF 1st
VC:- 3rd DNS
WCRR:- 2nd 3rd
ToL:- DNS 2nd

Depends how much emphasis you put on one place in LBL over wins in FW and San Seb.

Both records are impressive and very consistent, but for Gerrans in San Seb.
The no show for Lombardy hands it to Valverde, imo.

 

[Netserk]

I know.
Its about who is the rider here most liked.
Of course it should be partially about podium finishes in the classic races.



Did he though?

Race: Gerrans Valverde
MSR:- DNS DNS
AGR:- 3rd 4th
FW:- DNS 1st
LBL:- 1st 2nd
CSS:- DNF 1st
VC:- 3rd DNS
WCRR:- 2nd 3rd
ToL:- DNS 2nd

Depends how much emphasis you put on one place in LBL over wins in FW and San Seb.

Both records are impressive and very consistent, but for Gerrans in San Seb.
The no show for Lombardy hands it to Valverde, imo.

You forgot two WT one-day races.

Liège and the two Canadian one-day races plus three podiums > Flèche Wallonne and San Sebastian plus three podiums

Not to mention that the three times they were in a final together, Simon Gerrans beat Valverde all three times.

 

[inri2000]

No, I actually like Bertie, but like I've said before, I follow the sport not individuals.

Bottom line is top of the UCi, CQ, PCS rankings agree on who came out tops.

Haha, what would be the point of a poll if all you look at is official rankings?

 

[Mellow Velo]

You forgot two WT one-day races.

Liège and the two Canadian one-day races plus three podiums > Flèche Wallonne and San Sebastian plus three podiums

Not to mention that the three times they were in a final together, Simon Gerrans beat Valverde all three times.

No.
I didn't forget them, I omitted them, as I did from my original post, because they aren't historical classics.
Same reason I omitted the other big newbie, Strade Bianche, or the historical, but not classic Roma Maxima.

Valverde also scores points in my book, for his rides in E3 and Dwars, even if his results didn't.

I agree with your final point. Head to head, in the battle of the wheel suckers, Gerrans came out on top.

 

[nobilis]

Simon Gerrans (others as well) has better classics results this year than Valverde.
Contador, Nibali & Quintana have for obvious reasons better overall results in GTs this year.
He didn't do **** on cobbles (sitting 3rd on a hill ~60km out IIRC and not being anywhere near the front in the final = not doing ****) and the dirt you talk about is mostly insignificant (compared to the hills in that classic).

You got to be really biased to say that. Valverde had a better classics season or at least comparable to that of Gerrans, without even taking into account his wins in week-long stage races and his performances in the Tour and Vuelta (4th and 3rd)

 

[Cance > TheRest]

You got to be really biased to say that. Valverde had a better classics season or at least comparable to that of Gerrans, without even taking into account his wins in week-long stage races and his performances in the Tour and Vuelta (4th and 3rd)

And the only reason some might even consider Gerrans' classics season as good as Valverde's is because Gerrans won 2 WT classics (or should I just call them one-day-races) in Canada. If Valverde had participated there, he'd have podium'ed atleast, and nobody would even compare the two.

 

[del1962]

And the only reason some might even consider Gerrans' classics season as good as Valverde's is because Gerrans won 2 WT classics (or should I just call them one-day-races) in Canada. If Valverde had participated there, he'd have podium'ed atleast, and nobody would even compare the two.

The fact that in every one day race in which they both competed Gerrans finished ahead of Valverde might be why most people will come to the correct conclusion that Gerrans had a better classic season