March 17th 2012 Milan-Sanremo - The Primavera - 298km

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I don't understand that disapproval for Gerrans. It was with Nibali the ones that they attacked in Poggio. And considering that he (and Nibali) had team-mates following, that was the tactic to follow.
 
The Hitch said:
You are crediting Gerrans for being clever because he followed Cancellara?

That doesn't require that many brains.
Gerrans wasn't particularly clever, because he didn't need to be. I understand Cancellara liked his chances even after towing Gerrans and Nibali to the finish line better than his chances back in the group, but he could at least have tried to get Gerrans more involved (Nibali was a non-factor, honestly).

Then again, chances are they wouldn't have stayed away if Gerrans had taken his turns.
 
Richeypen said:
So much hate for Pozzato last year for wheel sucking. Wonder if Gerrans will get the same sort of hate. That ending has really ****ed me off, new rider for my dislike list now.

I always thought Gerrans was ridiculously overrated, because he'd been smart and interesting back in '08-'09, but for the last couple of years seemed happy to come 7th in the uphill sprint.

I didn't like the way he rode into the finish, but this wasn't a Thor Hushovd at Paris-Roubaix shadow job. Gerrans took a turn (one, which is more than Nibali did). He followed the right move, and actually dared to do something interesting, which combined with his being a stronger rider than he was 4 years ago, gave him an unexpected chance at winning a Monument most unsuited to him.

Is it usually the most boring monument? Sure. Is it a bit lame to win by sucking wheels? Sure.

But Gerrans will say, so what? He's actually justified the hype for the first time in his career.
 
trevim said:
I'm truely disappointed with this winner but well he was the smartest so there's nothing to whine about....

I think Nibali was working for Sagan all the way because he didn't hold anything back for the sprint, he was hanging on for dear life. I think he attacked just to force others to chase and give Sagan a free ride.

Positive notes: Degenkolb is a true hard men for the classics. And there goes the myth that you can't win by attacking in the Poggio nowadays.

Sky was probably the biggest let down. They should have shifted to EBH as soon as Cav was 2min down.

Please can we not let this nonsense become a collective memory. How should they have shifted to EBH at that stage? Teleport the domestiques back to the peloton?
 
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trevim said:
I'm truely disappointed with this winner but well he was the smartest so there's nothing to whine about....

I think Nibali was working for Sagan all the way because he didn't hold anything back for the sprint, he was hanging on for dear life. I think he attacked just to force others to chase and give Sagan a free ride.

Positive notes: Degenkolb is a true hard men for the classics. And there goes the myth that you can't win by attacking in the Poggio nowadays.

Sky was probably the biggest let down. They should have shifted to EBH as soon as Cav was 2min down.

Wouldn't have mattered much, EBH proved again he isn't ready to battle with the big boys.

Not the most spectacular way to win, but you can't blame Gerrans. Cancellara was almost too strong for his own good today, well, I guess we have one favorite for the Ronde and Roubaix again this year.
 
Oct 30, 2011
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Gerrans wouldn't have lasted a second on the front. Cancellara almost pulled it off, but it's not easy to win pulling 2 men to the line. He knows that, you can't just suddenly ban drafting because a great rider sometimes doesn't win.
 
Cancellator said:
Was there nothing Cancellara could have done to get the other two in the break to work?

Biggest fail by Nib, no work and still only comes third, at least Gerrans won.

Nibbs did his thing successfully well knowing he cannot sprint-Cancellara did the same too-Gerrans happens to follow Nibbs & hung there perfectly & being by far the fastest of the three-his changes were greater- Sagan should have bridged earlier if he wanted to win it
 
May 27, 2010
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skidmark said:
So Sagan decisively answers the question of whether or not he can handle full classic distance. This kid's gonna be a monster for a long time. 4 years on, we're still waiting for the answer to that question for EBH.

Lol have you forgotten JTL;)
 
Mar 26, 2011
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IMO you can only win on the poggio if you are one of the best descenders, and best time trialists, aka Fabian. Or if you are smart enough to follow that rider...
 
Mar 13, 2009
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Credit where credit is due, Gerrans followed the right move and played to his strengths. Cancellara had the option of dropping back and testing his sprint for the win, or taking a certain podium. He made his choice.
 
Oct 17, 2010
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DominicDecoco said:
What don't you get? Had it been anyone else than Fabi in front that group would have been eaten by the peloton.

Wish is why I don't understand the criticism to fabian. Once he was in that trio he's best shot at winning was driving them to the finish line and hope for the best. IMO.

Greenedge probably won't feature all season long, but taking care of themselves so far. Thanks to Gerrans mostly. Better than waht I would expect.
 
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Zoncolan said:
In hindsight, Nibali ****ed Sagan. Had he not attacked, Sagan would probably had taken the sprint.
Sagan should of followed Cancellara when he went. He lost it for himself by not doing this. Nibali was never going to win once Cancellara went.
 
Waterloo Sunrise said:
Please can we not let this nonsense become a collective memory. How should they have shifted to EBH at that stage? Teleport the domestiques back to the peloton?
They could have started by not having half the team dropped with 100km to go just to be with a guy that is old enough to know he wasn't good enough today.