Teams & Riders Mark Cavendish Discussion Thread

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Anyone remember what the typical points penalty is for missing the time cut in a large group...

 

[Pricey_sky]

Anyone remember what the typical points penalty is for missing the time cut in a large group...

He was hit with a 20pt penalty for missing the time cut with a large group a few years ago. Not sure if it’s the same now.

 

[Netserk]

Anyone remember what the typical points penalty is for missing the time cut in a large group...

From the last section regarding the time limit in the rules and regulations posted yesterday (I missed it at first too):

"In cases where riders who have finished outside the time limit are reinstated by the president of the commissaires’ jury, they will forfeit all of the points they have gained in the various secondary classifications. "

 

[Netserk]

Matthews only has 113 points, so I guess Cavendish could still take green even if he loses all his points today (or tomorrow).

EDIT: The grupetto made the time limit today.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Matthews only has 113 points, so I guess Cavendish could still take green even if he loses all his points today (or tomorrow).

EDIT: The grupetto made the time limit today.

I was going to say that to your comment about it. Watch him go back to 0 and win still. Was it just since the race was so hard? I didn’t expect it to be a concern with the downhills.

 

[42x16ss]

I was going to say that to your comment about it. Watch him go back to 0 and win still. Was it just since the race was so hard? I didn’t expect it to be a concern with the downhills.

Pogacar and the conditions made the race hard.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Hopefully things calm down now the GC is over.

 

[Red Rick]

He wasn't near the first in trouble yesterday, which is the main way to finish OOT.

Also clever to help other sprinters, so they help catch breakaways and lead out Cav

 

[Netserk]

He wasn't near the first in trouble yesterday, which is the main way to finish OOT.

Also clever to help other sprinters, so they help catch breakaways and lead out Cav

The danger is that the grupetto is OOT, but reinstated, and that he loses all his points. In that case, it's likely both Matthews and Colbrelli would be in a group inside the time limit.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Big test passed today. If he makes it through Wednesday he *should * be OK to the end barring illness or injury

 

[Netserk]

Only accumulated fatigue can stop him now, I think.

 

[Vino's Mum]

No Dauphiné or Suisse, no problem.

 

[Barnacle Bill]

Colbrelli got 35 points today, bet Cav wasn't expecting that
But great job making the time cut, had a few doubts he would do it.

 

[Gigs_98]

It's just insane that in the year of 2021 I feel like there is a decent chance that Mark f*cking Cavendish will have the most successful Tour of his career. I really thought he would massively struggle to get over the Alps.

 

[Wyndbrook]

He has two less rivals with Merlier and Demare unfortunately not making the cut.

 

[SlickMongoose]

He has two less rivals with Merlier and Demare unfortunately not making the cut.

Also fewer teams willing to work now, which might make the flat stages a little more exciting.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

With this number of flat stages remaining and a sprint field that at this point would be considered poor at the Vuelta a Burgos, Cav is going to wrap up the stage record before they even get to Paris. He’s going to win six stages.

 

[Netserk]

With this number of flat stages remaining and a sprint field that at this point would be considered poor at the Vuelta a Burgos, Cav is going to wrap up the stage record before they even get to Paris. He’s going to win six stages.

I think the break will take two of those.

 

[pink_jersey]

Yeah, no one it's gonna help DQS on the flat stages now. On the upside, he only has to worry about Philipsen and Bouhanni from now on. Also having still 8 riders it's gonna be a big advantage for DQS.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Sure, the break will be a danger. Certainly more than other sprinters are likely to be, much as I would like to see Philipsen and Bouhanni get stages. But DQS have a whole team. They will have help from Alpecin. And they’ll have Lefevere threatening to have all of their families murdered if they leave free stages on the road and fail to get the publicity bonanza the record would bring.

 

[Netserk]

They will have help from Alpecin

Who just lost two riders of their train, so will need more of the rest to be fresh for the finale, and they got what they came for.

 

[canarydan23]

Who just lost two riders of their train, so will need more of the rest to be fresh for the finale, and they got what they came for.

Yep, I think you're right. They've watched Cavendish make mincemeat of them when Merlier and Philipsen were there at the end, will they really feel confident enough with just Philipsen to work with DQS to bring it all back together for a sprint? I agree that at least one, perhaps 2, maybe even three sprint stages will see the break stay away. DQS have the numbers and talent to bring a couple of stages back without assistance but they can't do it for every remaining flat stage.

You never know, maybe TDE will pointlessly ride on the front for a bit again.

 

[jmdirt]

He has two less rivals with Merlier and Demare unfortunately not making the cut.

Did TM not make the cut or DNF? Either way, he is out.

I think that BV, BE, and AF will a least 'token' help mind the gap since their guys are still in the hunt.

 

[Red Rick]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1411723540668338176

View: https://twitter.com/deceuninck_qst/status/1411723540668338176

 

[luckyboy]

It's just insane that in the year of 2021 I feel like there is a decent chance that Mark f*cking Cavendish will have the most successful Tour of his career. I really thought he would massively struggle to get over the Alps.

He was like 1:30 inside the time cut today. That is quite a struggle. Maybe if there was another hard mountain stage tomorrow it would be over.

Got through though, and looks like he should make it to the end now unless Andorra or Portet are crazy attacks from first mountain in bad weather or something..