Teams & Riders Mark Cavendish Discussion Thread

[gingerwallaceafro]

Mine's eight inches. How about yours?

Hey, that's a BroDeal!

 

[gingerwallaceafro]

Who says Cav will win green jersey again now Kittel is there? You do realize they're both tied in amount of green jerseys right?

I don't think anyone would place Cavendish over Boonen anyway

I'm comparing two sprinters with each other. One of them just isn't a one trick pony as evidenced by his world championship victory where only 23 riders made it in the same time at the finish line.

To answer your questions my little cauliflower, yes and yes. Boonen is quality, one of the greats, no doubt. Cav's accumulating good wins at a storming rate and Tom has at least 5 yrs on Cav.

I know you're trying ever so hard to hate Cav and want to compare him to Tom and now Kittel (anyone else, Greipel?) but it smacks of slapped *** fanboy sour grapes..

 

[El Pistolero]

You're the only one being sour here though

People will always rate hard earned victories higher than victories in flat GT stages. Personally, I don't even care much about Tom's GT victories. Green jersey is nice though.

For example, I rate Cancellara's E3 Harelbeke win in 2011 higher than all of Cav's Tour stage wins that year. I don't think I stand alone with that opinion

 

[Boardslide]

To try to even up some of the comments on here, tonight it was announced at the IOM awards dinner that Cav will sponser 3 young IOM atheletes for the next 2 years. 1 cyclist and 2 swimmers. Sometimes he can surprise.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

SUPERSTAR cyclist Mark Cavendish is the Isle of Man’s Sportsman of the Year for the eighth successive time.

http://www.iomtoday.co.im/sport/isl...-prize-at-isle-of-man-sports-awards-1-4399370


frosty and hatcher can i laugh or smile at this news?

 

[gingerwallaceafro]

Not me! I'm still a ray of sunshine in a dark stormy sky

And now you're bringing Cancellara into it.. Who else? Merckx? Coppi?
It's obvious that you have a very deep man crush on Cav that you're barely repressing

 

[Boardslide]

SUPERSTAR cyclist Mark Cavendish is the Isle of Man’s Sportsman of the Year for the eighth successive time.

http://www.iomtoday.co.im/sport/isl...-prize-at-isle-of-man-sports-awards-1-4399370


frosty and hatcher can i laugh or smile at this news?

To a population of 80,000 motorcycle & cycling fans, his sporting achievments would make him a superstar

 

[Boardslide]

Some further information regarding the sponsorships.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/532298/cavendish-launches-manx-sports-scholarships.html

 

[hatcher]

SUPERSTAR cyclist Mark Cavendish is the Isle of Man’s Sportsman of the Year for the eighth successive time.

http://www.iomtoday.co.im/sport/isl...-prize-at-isle-of-man-sports-awards-1-4399370


frosty and hatcher can i laugh or smile at this news?

What's it got to do with me??

But as you asked, IoM Sportsman of the Year is no laughing matter.

 

[hmsgenoa]

Mine's eight inches. How about yours?

Dead heat then

 

[hmsgenoa]

So that's 3 within few days to make the 'what have you done yourself bla bla bla" which has no relevance what so ever.

I think it's entirely relevant, it seems to me a very high percentage of people on here just come on for the sake of knocking people. It's a case of if you cant walk the walk then don't talk the talk.

I just came on in this particular thread to put a matter straight, not absolve Cav of any blame.

 

[DominicDecoco]

I think it's entirely relevant, it seems to me a very high percentage of people on here just come on for the sake of knocking people. It's a case of if you cant walk the walk then don't talk the talk.

I just came on in this particular thread to put a matter straight, not absolve Cav of any blame.

It's a discussion board. We discuss cycling and cyclists. You don't have to be a retired pro rider to have an opinion.

It does not have any relevance.

But you are right about one thing. This forum is often about the negatives. Which is a shame.

 

[Von Mises]

Who says Cav will win green jersey again now Kittel is there? You do realize they're both tied in amount of green jerseys right?

I don't think anyone would place Cavendish over Boonen anyway

I'm comparing two sprinters with each other. One of them just isn't a one trick pony as evidenced by his world championship victory where only 23 riders made it in the same time at the finish line.

I think you are wrong. History will not remember Boonen as a sprinter, but as one of the best classics riders. As a sprinter Cavendish is miles ahead of Boonen, there is no comparison.



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[Machu Picchu]

I think you are wrong. History will not remember Boonen as a sprinter, but as one of the best classics riders. As a sprinter Cavendish is miles ahead of Boonen, there is no comparison.

Your almost there: History will not remember Boonen as just a sprinter, but as one of the best classics riders, there is no comparison between him and Cavendish.

 

[DominicDecoco]

Of course history will remember Tom as a sprinter as well. Anything else would be laughable. 6 stages and a green shirt in the Tour should do it.

 

[Von Mises]

Of course history will remember Tom as a sprinter as well. Anything else would be laughable. 6 stages and a green shirt in the Tour should do it.

Okey. I will be more precise.
If there is a talk about about all time best in sprinting, talk will be about Cippolini, Pettachi, Cavendish, Zabel. Not about Boonen, Boonen is not even mentioned.

But if there is a talk about all time best in classics, well, things change.

 

[hmsgenoa]

It's a discussion board. We discuss cycling and cyclists. You don't have to be a retired pro rider to have an opinion.

It does not have any relevance.

But you are right about one thing. This forum is often about the negatives. Which is a shame.

I understand where you are coming from, if there weren't armchair critics there wouldn't be an audience for sport.

It just seems daft when people repeatedly have concrete evidence put in front of them and chose to be blind to it. From my perspective you are justified to be criticizing if you are correct and know what you are talking about.

But yes you don't have to be qualified to have an opinion. There are just plenty of wind up merchants on here and if you can't beat them (make them see sense) you end up joining them.

 

[BroDeal]

It just seems daft when people repeatedly have concrete evidence put in front of them and chose to be blind to it.

It certainly does, especially when they are so enthralled by their own delusions that they spend page after page arguing against obvious facts, write crank letters to race organizers, credit changes to their letters, and dismiss a lack of response to those letters with conspiracy theories.

 

[hmsgenoa]

It certainly does, especially when they are so enthralled by their own delusions that they spend page after page arguing against obvious facts, write crank letters to race organizers, credit changes to their letters, and dismiss a lack of response to those letters with conspiracy theories.

As I said if you cannot beat them join them.

What is the worth of an opinion aired on here? It really cannot change anything - that much is obvious because you have been arguing against obvious facts yourself.

To me you are the deluded one, parading as a pseudo-expert, but better descibed as a half -wit.

So we have a myopic half-wit accusing me of being a crank.

It would be interesting to find out exactly why ASO changed the 1st Test in the 2012 tour wouldn't it?

 

[hmsgenoa]

I said earlier that I can back up what I say - a little timeline....

19th February I send this email to ASO(the 2nd as no reply to the 1st);
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Dear ____

Sorry to trouble you, I sent this email originally to cyclisme@aso.fr but it does not appear to be an email address that works.

While planning a trip to see the Tour de France this year, and checking out campsites at Arc-et-Senans, I noticed there are a lot of railways crossing the roads between there and Besancon.

I wondered what you do (are able to do) to ensure that no riders have their progress hindered on such a stage?

I understand everything stops for The Tour De France on the day, though seem to remember an occasion in 2003 when a level crossing stopped riders during the race?

Because the TT stage is so critical to the overall result, presumably all normal rail services that day will be suspended, or have their timetables altered, to avoid conflict with the event?

Many thanks for any information you can give me on this subject.

Kind regards

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On the 2nd March the following article appeared on this website;

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/2012-tour-de-france-gets-longer-time-trials
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Now you can say all you like, see what claptrap and pseudo-psychology you can come up with but thats quite a coincidence isn't it? Whether they've made changes or not as a direct result of my correspondence at least I have enough passion for the sport to actually be heading out there to watch it, planning where I'm going to watch it, and, seeing the potential for a Tour De France result to be skewed, ruined, try to do something about it.

 

[BroDeal]

Typical crank thinking. It's not just everyone but them is wrong. It's everyone else is a half wit. Although this one goes a bit further, veering from groundless conspiracy theories about Americans hating on Chav because of Tyler F'n Farrar to taking credit to changes at the Tdf because of a crank letter. Next stop, preaching in the town square while standing on a soap box and a wearing sandwich sign.

 

[hmsgenoa]

Typical crank thinking. It's not just everyone but them is wrong. It's everyone else is a half wit. Although this one goes a bit further, veering from groundless conspiracy theories about Americans hating on Chav because of Tyler F'n Farrar to taking credit to changes at the Tdf because of a crank letter. Next stop, preaching in the town square while standing on a soap box and a wearing sandwich sign.

Yeah whatever. So you spend half an hour trawling through the whole thread trying to come up with something original, because faced with something real you can't think of anything else to say.

 

[Eric8-A]

So Cavendish isn't doing Flanders eh? I thought he was working on his climbing to win it.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Yeah whatever. So you spend half an hour trawling through the whole thread trying to come up with something original, because faced with something real you can't think of anything else to say.

Have you, or have you not, stated that everybody posting in here except the ones agreeing with you, are idiots?

 

[DominicDecoco]

I said earlier that I can back up what I say - a little timeline....

19th February I send this email to ASO(the 2nd as no reply to the 1st);

Dear ____

Sorry to trouble you, I sent this email originally to cyclisme@aso.fr but it does not appear to be an email address that works.

While planning a trip to see the Tour de France this year, and checking out campsites at Arc-et-Senans, I noticed there are a lot of railways crossing the roads between there and Besancon.

I wondered what you do (are able to do) to ensure that no riders have their progress hindered on such a stage?

I understand everything stops for The Tour De France on the day, though seem to remember an occasion in 2003 when a level crossing stopped riders during the race?

Because the TT stage is so critical to the overall result, presumably all normal rail services that day will be suspended, or have their timetables altered, to avoid conflict with the event?

Many thanks for any information you can give me on this subject.

Kind regards

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
On the 2nd March the following article appeared on this website;

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/2012-tour-de-france-gets-longer-time-trials

Now you can say all you like, see what claptrap and pseudo-psychology you can come up with but thats quite a coincidence isn't it? Whether they've made changes or not as a direct result of my correspondence at least I have enough passion for the sport to actually be heading out there to watch it, planning where I'm going to watch it, and, seeing the potential for a Tour De France result to be skewed, ruined, try to do something about it.

Haha. No, of course your e-mail has nothing to do with the change of the TT-route. Are you being serious here? No one from ASO has never even read your first or second mail. And I like how you think you are the most enthusiastic cycling fan in here because you are planning to go to France... I can assure you that no one in here has never been at the Tour De France or at any other bike race. That's one thing certain...