Teams & Riders Mark Cavendish Discussion Thread

[The Hitch]

Made the BBC news at 6 & 10 o'clock

It got 2 words litterally, without video or even explanation what the giro is, so anyone who doesn't know cycling will think its some nothing week race.

And got absolutely no coverage from ITV even though they are the tdf broadcasters

 

[Granville57]

It got 2 words litterally

"Peta's husband"?

 

[Cyivel]

It got 2 words litterally, without video or even explanation what the giro is, so anyone who doesn't know cycling will think its some nothing week race.

And got absolutely no coverage from ITV even though they are the tdf broadcasters

People probably thought he won the Giro

 

[Squire]

He´d share it with nobody I think

You surely mean among active cyclists? If so, only Petacchi has 10 or more wins (20), but I don't know if his comeback is going anywhere. In that case, you are right.

Nobody will ever catch Delio Rodriguez' 39 stage wins though, I guess.

 

[Cyivel]

You surely mean among active cyclists? If so, only Petacchi has 10 or more wins (20), but I don't know if his comeback is going anywhere. In that case, you are right.

Nobody will ever catch Delio Rodriguez' 39 stage wins though, I guess.

spalco meant getting double digits in all three Grand Tours (not just the Vuelta), nobody has done that before.

 

[The Hitch]

"Peta's husband"?

As celeb obsessed as the British public allegedly are, page 3 girls are not famous in the slightest. Ive never heard of a single page 3 girl other than her and thats because she married Cav.

Edit: never knew cav takes care of Peta's son from a previous relationship. That's nice of him.

 

[JRanton]

Amazing Giro for Cav. I remember saying that he might as well go home after stage 6. If he can keep racking up 5 wins at the Giro in the years to come then the Merckx record should be broken by the end of the 2016 Tour.

 

[Squire]

spalco meant getting double digits in all three Grand Tours (not just the Vuelta), nobody has done that before.

Oh aye, I see!

Surprised Eddy didn't manage that. Good luck to Cav with catching The Cannibal's total amount of GT stage wins though

 

[IndianCyclist]

He is the epitome of the British way of never giving up. He didn't have to do the mountains but he persevered through horrendous weather and as a result he got the red jersey and the final stage win. Chapeau
Unlike of course the so called favorite for the GC Sir Wiggins
They should be awarding Cav the title as well.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Any chance his achievement makes the UK news?

Front page of the Telegraph sport website section, headlining the fact he has all 3, so yes.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

As celeb obsessed as the British public allegedly are, page 3 girls are not famous in the slightest. Ive never heard of a single page 3 girl other than her and thats because she married Cav.

Sam Fox or Linda Lusardi are about the only ones that spring to mind. A bit before your time though I think.

Edit: never knew cav takes care of Peta's son from a previous relationship. That's nice of him.

I am no expert on this but I am guessing her son came as part of the deal

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

He is the epitome of the British way of never giving up. He didn't have to do the mountains but he persevered through horrendous weather and as a result he got the red jersey and the final stage win. Chapeau

Actually, I would say that Cav has something many British sports people seem to lack and that is a single minded (verging on bloody minded) winning mentality.

 

[Captain Sensible]

Sam Fox or Linda Lusardi are about the only ones that spring to mind. A bit before your time though I think.

Those two plus Jo Guest are the ones that come to mind straight away but as you say it's a age thing in the 80,s they would be on game shows etc .

 

[Pippo_San]

He is very well on the road to become the greatest sprinter ever.
He'll probably never have the class of a Cipollini, but boy...is he good!
Never seen such an effective way of sprinting...if you don't count Abdu, who almost "killed" his opponents

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Cav on BBC Motogp coverage

 

[Boardslide]

Cav on BBC Motogp coverage

Today he's at the Hero Ride in London for the Help for Hero's charity of which he is a patron

 

[Cramps]

Any opinions on Cav's likely wins for TdF 2013?

PR material from OPQS says 7 sprinter stages. I assume they mean stages:
1, 5, 6, 10, 12, 13, 21

I think Cav would be favourite for all of these except maybe 5 looks a little bumpy.

But I'm also wondering about stages 3, 7, 14. Might he have a shot at these? Kind of the way he and OPQS pulled out stage 13 at the Giro?

And to get really crazy. If Cav wins stage 1, could he defend on stage 2?

Probably I was too impressed by his giro stage 13 win, so fire away.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Any opinions on Cav's likely wins for TdF 2013?

PR material from OPQS says 7 sprinter stages. I assume they mean stages:
1, 5, 6, 10, 12, 13, 21

I think Cav would be favourite for all of these except maybe 5 looks a little bumpy.

But I'm also wondering about stages 3, 7, 14. Might he have a shot at these? Kind of the way he and OPQS pulled out stage 13 at the Giro?

And to get really crazy. If Cav wins stage 1, could he defend on stage 2?

Probably I was too impressed by his giro stage 13 win, so fire away.

Stage 2 really isn't that crazy. Will only be Team Sagan & Team Degenkolb with a serious interest in pulling for 60km to keep the various sprinters and their teams from riding back on.

 

[search]

Stage 2 really isn't that crazy. Will only be Team Sagan & Team Degenkolb with a serious interest in pulling for 60km to keep the various sprinters and their teams from riding back on.

it's not so much about the big climbs but about the little in the end I think

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

it's not so much about the big climbs but about the little in the end I think

98m above sea level, 12km from the finish?

If the sprinters get back on after the big climb (and it will be a massive full team commitment to stop them from someone else) then that speed bump will not change things.

Stage 3 is much much harder, but stage 2, the more I look at it, the more I see a sprint.

 

[Miburo]

98m above sea level, 12km from the finish?

If the sprinters get back on after the big climb (and it will be a massive full team commitment to stop them from someone else) then that speed bump will not change things.

Stage 3 is much much harder, but stage 2, the more I look at it, the more I see a sprint.

Yea, could be. Depends on what the other teams do of course, cannondale prob will unleash hell on that climb.

 

[search]

98m above sea level, 12km from the finish?

If the sprinters get back on after the big climb (and it will be a massive full team commitment to stop them from someone else) then that speed bump will not change things.

1km at 9%, with parts of ~15%, a little bit more than a speed bump, especially after a hilly stage

http://goo.gl/maps/Ozjqo

some sprinters may make it, but not all

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

1km at 9%, with parts of ~15%, a little bit more than a speed bump, especially after a hilly stage

http://goo.gl/maps/Ozjqo

some sprinters may make it, but not all

In 1km it would actually be quite an achievement for a well positioned sprinter to reach the back of the peloton, let alone get dropped. Certainly makes it harder but would be really shocking performance to not contest a sprint if you're in the peloton with 15k to go on that stage.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

1km at 9%, with parts of ~15%, a little bit more than a speed bump, especially after a hilly stage

http://goo.gl/maps/Ozjqo

some sprinters may make it, but not all

Perhaps one can draw a parallel to stage 13 (TdF '12):

result:

GER 1 GREIPEL, André (LOTTO BELISOL) 4:57:59
SVK 2 SAGAN, Peter (LIQUIGAS-CANNONDALE)
NOR 3 BOASSON HAGEN, Edvald (SKY PROCYCLING)
FRA 4 HINAULT, Sébastien (AG2R LA MONDIALE)
RSA 5 IMPEY, Daryl (ORICA-GREENEDGE)
FRA 6 SIMON, Julien (SAUR-SOJASUN)
ITA 7 MARCATO, Marco (VACANSOLEIL-DCM)
BEL 8 GILBERT, Philippe (BMC RACING)
SVK 9 VELITS, Peter (OMEGA PHARMA-QUICKSTEP)
GER 10 HONDO, Danilo (LAMPRE-ISD)

The bizz end hill on stage 13 was considerable harder, but the heavies had almost double the distance to catch back on again.

 

[Flamin]

In 1km it would actually be quite an achievement for a well positioned sprinter to reach the back of the peloton, let alone get dropped. Certainly makes it harder but would be really shocking performance to not contest a sprint if you're in the peloton with 15k to go on that stage.

Except that you don't have to slide back to the back of the peloton to get dropped. If the pace is high, you're not even safe in say 50th position, because when those guys in front of you can't hold the wheel and the peloton splits, you're ****ed as well.

Apart from green, also the maillot jaune will be at stake, so I don't expect anything else than Cannondale drilling it real hard on that climb. And even if Cav manages to hold on, chances are high he will have consumed considerably more energy throughout the stage than Sagan, going into the sprint.

It's Sagan vs Degenkolb imo.