Teams & Riders Matteo Jorgenson and his inexorable rise to the top

[Netserk]

He must attack on Tourmalet.

 

[AvA8]

Kids, I put inexorable in the title as he'll one day be free of the yoke of Jonas.

Maybe doesnt have arguments for it right now..

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Is exorable a word?

 

[jmdirt]

I wonder if he had a gastro issue today?

 

[Potomac]

I wonder if he had a gastro issue today?

After first 20 or 25 minutes of racing he was hanging far off the back. His team was trying to pace him back but he kept gesturing for the team car to slow down. It looked hopeless to me. That's when LIgget and Roll were really sounding the alarm bells. One of them later mentioned him having to stop for a natural break.
So gastro issues seem a possible explanation.

I thought he was out of the race at that point. But he ended up 15th for the day.

I posted about in this thread at the time and I was shocked nobody else was saying anything. My guess is Peacock was show a different feed at that moment from whatever they were showing on Discovery .

 

[Peyroteo94]

Glad to see this guy nowhere to be seen.

 

[P4rthen0n]

Jorgensen was a huge favourite for a top10 in GC, with a top5 very possible.
To see him being dropped in the first climb was a huge surprise.

He has been riding so well.
What happened? Was it an health issue?

 

[Peyroteo94]

Jorgensen was a huge favourite for a top10 in GC, with a top5 very possible.
To see him being dropped in the first climb was a huge surprise.

He has been riding so well.
What happened? Was it an health issue?

He isn't a climber.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

He isn't a climber.

Depends on where you draw the line. I think he‘s inconsistent on long climbs but climbs well enough to destroy races like Paris-Nice with medium-sized climbs. Today he also had a bad day though.

 

[jmdirt]

Depends on where you draw the line. I think he‘s inconsistent on long climbs but climbs well enough to destroy races like Paris-Nice with medium-sized climbs. Today he also had a bad day though.

But his issues seemed to start before any hard racing, let alone climbing.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

After first 20 or 25 minutes of racing he was hanging far off the back. His team was trying to pace him back but he kept gesturing for the team car to slow down. It looked hopeless to me. That's when LIgget and Roll were really sounding the alarm bells. One of them later mentioned him having to stop for a natural break.
So gastro issues seem a possible explanation.

I thought he was out of the race at that point. But he ended up 15th for the day.

I posted about in this thread at the time and I was shocked nobody else was saying anything. My guess is Peacock was show a different feed at that moment from whatever they were showing on Discovery .

I didn't see any of this, I don't even know if they showed a single shot of him at the back. Might have simply missed it but there wasn't much coverage. The commentators also didn't notice/mention anything of this sort.

 

[jmdirt]

I didn't see any of this, I don't even know if they showed a single shot of him at the back. Might have simply missed it but there wasn't much coverage. The commentators also didn't notice/mention anything of this sort.

I have Peackock in the USA and they showed a quick shot of him coming back through the cars, and one of the talking heads (not David Byrne) said something about him stopping/nature break/struggling early.

If he got dropped on Haut...what ever, but he was struggling all day. Maybe a gastro issue, maybe a virus, maybe fatigue?

EDIT: I just saw a headline that he had 'bad sensations' from the start.

 

[jmdirt]

Jorgensen was a huge favourite for a top10 in GC, with a top5 very possible.
To see him being dropped in the first climb was a huge surprise.

He has been riding so well.
What happened? Was it an health issue?

He's still in 10th even after a bad day.

Sorry for the repeat, but I don't like placing GC expectation on the support riders because their focus is not on themselves. That being said, I would love to see him finish in the top 5-10 though.

 

[veganrob]

I wonder if he had a gastro issue today?

He had diarrhea of the mouth yesterday

 

[Potomac]

I have Peackock in the USA and they showed a quick shot of him coming back through the cars, and one of the talking heads (not David Byrne) said something about him stopping/nature break/struggling early.

If he got dropped on Haut...what ever, but he was struggling all day. Maybe a gastro issue, maybe a virus, maybe fatigue?

EDIT: I just saw a headline that he had 'bad sensations' from the start.

on the peacock replay, about 1:21:43 into the broadcast Jorgenson is on camera for about 90 seconds struggling behind the team car.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Depends on where you draw the line. I think he‘s inconsistent on long climbs but climbs well enough to destroy races like Paris-Nice with medium-sized climbs. Today he also had a bad day though.

The reason why he is great at Paris Nice, is because he knows most of those climbs by heart, he lives in Nice and does these climbs on his training route. Secondly because he also rides the spring classics, so his is in better shape than the other contenders in Paris Nice, who are usually starting a month later for the Ardennes classics. Meaning he is much closer to his peak form than his direct competitors for GC at Paris Nice.

Also I wouldn't exactly use the term "to destroy" as the only reason he beat Fat Evenepoel last year was because of a tactical blunder at SQS, and this year half his advantage to Lipowitz came from a Team TT and boni seconds.

 

[Potomac]

Well Jorgenson doesn't say anything about being ill or gastro problems.

"It was super-hot and super-fast. The first 100km were, for me, incredibly hard," Jorgenson said. "I knew from the first kilometres that I was on a bad day. I just struggled through it. With the fight for the break and the heat, it was a really hard day.

"I have no excuses. I just had a bad day, and I'll have to get much better."

 

[Oldman]

After first 20 or 25 minutes of racing he was hanging far off the back. His team was trying to pace him back but he kept gesturing for the team car to slow down. It looked hopeless to me. That's when LIgget and Roll were really sounding the alarm bells. One of them later mentioned him having to stop for a natural break.
So gastro issues seem a possible explanation.

I thought he was out of the race at that point. But he ended up 15th for the day.

I posted about in this thread at the time and I was shocked nobody else was saying anything. My guess is Peacock was show a different feed at that moment from whatever they were showing on Discovery .

He looked like cumulative fatigue caught up to him. A night's restless sleep combined with the pressure to perform and wreck a serious uphill stage. No faking it and hanging in the peloton. It was coming and he and Jonas both paid.
Meanwhile JV basically motorpaced Tadej to his team's attack setup....again. Now that they've wrecked their team to preserve Jonas solid second place (for the moment)....what's next?

Now they'll be under pressure from RBH that will be moving to 2nd place as a target. I wouldn't be surprised if Roglic was allowed to follow off early tomorrow. Tadej won't flinch and, if Jonas does; he'll get further wrecked. A conundrum for JV.