Max Van Heeswijk (Ex-Us Postal) admits to EPO use.

[nevada]

Van Heeswijk rode for Motorola as well I think so he has a lot of association with Lance. Going to be interesting how he explains his own doping with all the other proven/admitted Postal dopers whilst team leader being 100% clean.


Maybe off-topic but one former Postal guy I would like to hear from is Jamie Burrow and not just in relation to US Postal. The guy was a huge talent beating some of Pantani's climbing records whilst amateur but never made it as a pro and lasted only one season at Postal. Last I heard of him he was riding Grand fondos in Italy. Was his career derailed because of others doping though admittedly doping was supposed to be rife on the Italian amateur scene at the time also.

I dont think JB was ever 'A' team - He was let go after the team rode for him in the Tour of Austria (I think) - he fell and broke his wrist and apprently that was a failure, he got the call a couple of days later - Nice people to work for !

 

[ansimi]

I don't know anything about this guy but that behaviour with grabbing the disk sounds troubling. I hope he has support.

 

[Cloxxki]

I don't know anything about this guy but that behaviour with grabbing the disk sounds troubling. I hope he has support.

Denying later on TV is even more troubling. Something must have happened in the mean time, and it wasn't peace of mind. Guy must not be the smartest, and under some sort of pressure greater than his own dignity.

 

[Race Radio]

Okay, he did spend 4 years with Postal/Discovery (and 2 years with Motorola), but he was also with Rabobank, Mapei and Domo Farm Frites. Perhaps it's a bit misleading put "ex-Postal" in the title of this thread?

Just saying.

Admittedly, he did have his best years while at Postal/Disco. Was he ever on a TdF team with Armstrong?

The story is clearly about his time at Disco, his doping as well as Lance's and Landis. The interview's focus was the Federal investigation. The reason Max grabbed the tape was because he was scared of the smear campaign that is unleashed by Lance on those who tell the truth.

 

[Lajeretta4Ever]

... and after the interview he apparently stole the minidisc with his confession on it

This does not sound believable. I mean it's 2011 and who still uses minidiscs?

 

[Benotti69]

This does not sound believable. I mean it's 2011 and who still uses minidiscs?

old hacks

 

[Lajeretta4Ever]

old hacks

I still own one, but hardly ever use it.

 

[Cloxxki]

I am not a journalist, but minidiscs do seem practical.
- Affordable for one-time storage. CDR are nice, but who has a CD writer memo recorder? Cassettes still exist in various sizes, but pose a lower quality, and potentially more easily affected by heat/flood. What do you pay for your USB sticks/SD cards, and how easily do you get 2 hours of audio on it from any recording device?
- Minidisc cover and disc itself have space for pen marks.
- Fits in a paper file nicely.

Besides, we're talking about a Limburger ex-cyclist living in Belgian, thinking to make a story go away by stealing a disc from under the eye of a journalist. Why question the journalist's attitude to the modern times? (Tongue in cheek, I'm from the West.)

 

[Anonymous]

ive still got two minidisc recorders. great quality, but a pain in the **** to transfer onto computers as audio. but if you are using it for interviews it does the job.

 

[Barrus]

As RR has said the interview was conducted because of the grand jury proceedings in the US and was mainly concerned about his view on the case Armstrong, the conduct and the behaviour on the USPS/Discovery teams and the sudden departure of Van Heeswijk out of the pro peloton. The interview did discuss the doping within the team of USPS/Discovery and the rest of the peloton.

Source:
http://www.nusport.nl/plugge/2579965/zaak-van-heeswijk.html

 

[Anonymous]

When you look at his Palmares, you have to wonder what happened in 2004 at the ripe old age of 31.

1995–1996 Motorola
1997–1998 Rabobank
1999–2000 Mapei
2001–2002 Domo-Farm Frites
2003–2006 US Postal Service/Discovery Channel
2007 Rabobank
2008 Willems

2000
1st, Paris–Brussels
15th, Summer Olympiad Men's Individual Road Race
2002
1st Stage 2 Route du Sud
2003
1st Stage 4 Tour de l'Ain
2004
1st Wachovia International
1st Stage 6, Volta a Catalunya
1st Stage 1 Tour of the Netherlands
1st Stage 2 Tour of the Netherlands
1st Stages 2 Vuelta a Andalucía
1st Stages 4 Vuelta a Andalucía
1st Points Classification
1st Stages 1 Vuelta a Murcia
1st Stages 3 Vuelta a Murcia
1st Nokere - Koerse
1st Nationale Sluitingprijs - Putte - Kapellen
3rd Overall, Tour of Belgium
5th Milan – San Remo
5th Overall Danmark Rundt
1st Points Classification
6th Overall, Four Days of Dunkirk
1st Stage 6
After Stage 2, Golden Jersey General Classification leader, Vuelta a España
17th Summer Olympiad Men's Individual Road Race
2005
1st Stage 1 Eneco Tour of Benelux
1st Stage 5 Eneco Tour of Benelux
1st Vuelta a España stage 7
After Stage 1 and 2, Red Jersey General Classification leader
2006
1st, Stage 1, Tour of Poland
2007
1st Stage 3 Vuelta a Andalucía

I think 2004 could be what is commonly referred to as an Anomaly

 

[Stingray34]

I think 2004 could be what is commonly referred to as an Anomaly

Nah, it's just the year he discovered the value of high cadence, hard work and a greater desire to beat everybody else.

 

[red_flanders]

As RR has said the interview was conducted because of the grand jury proceedings in the US and was mainly concerned about his view on the case Armstrong, the conduct and the behaviour on the USPS/Discovery teams and the sudden departure of Van Heeswijk out of the pro peloton. The interview did discuss the doping within the team of USPS/Discovery and the rest of the peloton.

Source:
http://www.nusport.nl/plugge/2579965/zaak-van-heeswijk.html

Were you able to read the full text in the magazine or is that out yet?

 

[Zweistein]

when you look at his palmares, you have to wonder what happened in 2004 at the ripe old age of 31.

1995–1996 motorola
1997–1998 rabobank
1999–2000 mapei
2001–2002 domo-farm frites
2003–2006 us postal service/discovery channel
2007 rabobank
2008 willems

2000
1st, paris–brussels
15th, summer olympiad men's individual road race
2002
1st stage 2 route du sud
2003
1st stage 4 tour de l'ain
2004
1st wachovia international
1st stage 6, volta a catalunya
1st stage 1 tour of the netherlands
1st stage 2 tour of the netherlands
1st stages 2 vuelta a andalucía
1st stages 4 vuelta a andalucía
1st points classification
1st stages 1 vuelta a murcia
1st stages 3 vuelta a murcia
1st nokere - koerse
1st nationale sluitingprijs - putte - kapellen
3rd overall, tour of belgium
5th milan – san remo
5th overall danmark rundt
1st points classification
6th overall, four days of dunkirk
1st stage 6
after stage 2, golden jersey general classification leader, vuelta a españa
17th summer olympiad men's individual road race
2005
1st stage 1 eneco tour of benelux
1st stage 5 eneco tour of benelux
1st vuelta a españa stage 7
after stage 1 and 2, red jersey general classification leader
2006
1st, stage 1, tour of poland
2007
1st stage 3 vuelta a andalucía

i think 2004 could be what is commonly referred to as an anomaly

don't you beleive in miracles? Maybe he just got tired of being tired.

 

[Berzin]

Don't you believe in miracles? Maybe he just got tired of being tired and wanted to live the Ultra Life.

Finished your thought for you.

 

[Oldman]

Turning it up a notch. Classy.
The stakes must really be high even for retirees. Worth a couple hundred of good night's sleep a year. Why DO these once-were's even do interviews anno domini 2011?

Perhaps their flirtation with His Lanceness gave them mini-god complexes. They need attention.
Maybe Lance should try to smash all of the TV's in the world so no one could say he dopes...he has that kind of power and speed.

 

[rata de sentina]

Nah, it's just the year he discovered the value of high cadence, hard work and a greater desire to beat everybody else.

You missed the laser-like focus.

 

[ianfra]

Van Heeswijk rode for Motorola as well I think so he has a lot of association with Lance. Going to be interesting how he explains his own doping with all the other proven/admitted Postal dopers whilst team leader being 100% clean.


Maybe off-topic but one former Postal guy I would like to hear from is Jamie Burrow and not just in relation to US Postal. The guy was a huge talent beating some of Pantani's climbing records whilst amateur but never made it as a pro and lasted only one season at Postal. Last I heard of him he was riding Grand fondos in Italy. Was his career derailed because of others doping though admittedly doping was supposed to be rife on the Italian amateur scene at the time also.

There were a number of riders who suffered because of the doping culture and were unable to fulfill their potential. I assume he was one of them. Thank goodness talented riders are able to ride and show their natural talents now.

 

[goober]

The story is clearly about his time at Disco, his doping as well as Lance's and Landis. The interview's focus was the Federal investigation. The reason Max grabbed the tape was because he was scared of the smear campaign that is unleashed by Lance on those who tell the truth.

Sad part is you probably believe this.

 

[Barrus]

Were you able to read the full text in the magazine or is that out yet?

I don't get the magazine. However the article will probably be up on regular nu.nl in a week or so, I presume at least

Sad part is you probably believe this.

If nu.nl is to be believed, and there is no reason to doubt their story, RR is at the very least half right, the story was mainly about his time at Disco, his doping and the Federal investigation and the doping of those involved in this investigation

 

[Cloxxki]

I don't get the magazine. However the article will probably be up on regular nu.nl in a week or so, I presume at least



If nu.nl is to be believed, and there is no reason to doubt their story, RR is at the very least half right, the story was mainly about his time at Disco, his doping and the Federal investigation and the doping of those involved in this investigation

The online comments from the editor said exactly that, reason to interview were the FDA investigations, and Max's time riding for Lance's team. That makes the subject seem dated today, because it is. They did the interview mid-June, then Max got all weird, the Tour happened (nu.nl do have things to do in July), and now they place the story, which has become timeless and in itself interesting, due to Max's admissions and later denials thereof.
I don't read anything in print anymore. Seems dated by design.

 

[Hugh Januss]

There were a number of riders who suffered because of the doping culture and were unable to fulfill their potential. I assume he was one of them. Thank goodness talented riders are able to ride and show their natural talents now.

Sad part is you probably believe this.

You guys are really funny. Stupid, *** and out of touch, but still funny.

 

[hrotha]

Nah, it's just the year he discovered the value of high cadence, hard work and a greater desire to beat everybody else.

Wasn't 2004 the year US Postal was crushing everybody so much at the Tour they flushed their high cadence down the toilet to make it a little more believable?

 

[Cloxxki]

Wasn't 2004 the year US Postal was crushing everybody so much at the Tour they flushed their high cadence down the toilet to make it a little more believable?

Still, now knowing that most teams were on all the same things the blue train is being confirmed to have been on...why were they crushing the others so much? We're not declaring the losers to be cleanish?
I can't make sense of the inconsistencies in performances. Floyd left, and stayed quick. So did Heras. Hamilton. We know their stories.
Hincapi however, seems to have lost commitment, focus, cadence, or whatever.
What made blue so much stronger?

NuSport refers to a sudden exit of the sport by Van Heeswijk. Do any of you have an opinion on that?

 

[thehog]

Wasn't 2004 the year US Postal was crushing everybody so much at the Tour they flushed their high cadence down the toilet to make it a little more believable?

Floyd talks about it in the Kimmage interview. The story of flushing blood bags down the toilet had been enamoured over time. Floyd confirmed that they had agreed to taper back their doping because they were crushing everyone and it was starting to look unbelievable.