Me Thinks Andy Should Ride The Giro in 2012

[c&cfan]

Gilbert targets Liege. It's little more than Tour prep for Andy Schleck. In 2009 that was different.

See what Bruyneel has to say about the Ardennes classics.

http://tinyurl.com/blmrohm

Second paragraph...

I don't give a sh+t about bruyneel, just like i don't give a sh+t about el trollero so i won't respond to his post.

Fact is, andy has much more talent than gilbert, just like contador, cav, canc.
Unlike canc and cav, andy's (and contador's) characteristics allows him to be able to win liege without luck being the dominant factor (the dominant factor is talent), so if he is "on", he can win that race any year.

 

[trevim]

Frank has an handy sprint. Sure he can't beat Rodriguez-type but he stand a chance against a guy like Evans I think. About Andy, I agree we shouldn't underestimate him. In fact he often rides without much tactical sense but he can pull of great ride (Liege, Galibier,...). He's good enough to win hilly courses on the worlds.

 

[El Pistolero]

I don't give a sh+t about bruyneel, just like i don't give a sh+t about el trollero so i won't respond to his post.

Fact is, andy has much more talent than gilbert, just like contador, cav, canc.
Unlike canc and cav, andy's (and contador's) characteristics allows him to be able to win liege without luck being the dominant factor (the dominant factor is talent), so if he is "on", he can win that race any year.

Yeah, he won every classic with luck this year!

Lol, just admit you hate Gilbert and leave it at that, you're making a complete fool of your self.

Luck had little to do with Gilbert's victories at hilly classics.

Fact is, Andy only won one decent race in his entire career. Because in case you didn't notice, Gilbert dropped Andy at the Saint Nicholas this year. I bet he was so lucky for Andy to have dropped!

Considering all these guys have much more talent they sure get beaten a lot by him

It's easy to dominate a race if your only serious competitor is Tom Boonen who has had a lot of bad luck past 2 years.

 

[c&cfan]

Yeah, he won every classic with luck this year!

Lol, just admit you hate Gilbert and leave it at that, you're making a complete fool of your self.

Luck had little to do with Gilbert's victories at hilly classics.

Fact is, Andy only won one decent race in his entire career. Because in case you didn't notice, Gilbert dropped Andy at the Saint Nicholas this year. I bet he was so lucky for Andy to have dropped!

Considering all these guys have much more talent they sure get beaten a lot by him

It's easy to dominate a race if your only serious competitor is Tom Boonen who has had a lot of bad luck past 2 years.

he can't read for sh+t..

always starts a discussion within another discussion..

baseless and stupid arguments...

blind fanboyism..

who is he?

he is el biaaaaaaaaaaaaaatchollero!

 

[Havetts]

he can't read for sh+t..

always starts a discussion within another discussion..

baseless and stupid arguments...

blind fanboyism..

who is he?

he is el biaaaaaaaaaaaaaatchollero!

While I agree with what you say this is a serious case of Pot meet Kettle..

 

[Walkman]

i'm sorry??????????? what???????

since when does contador needs andy for any help against anyone, specially evens?

what a SPOS.
for a moment i believed that you were saying something like conti + evens against andy, or (the one that makes(can) sense) landy+evens against conti... but no, you really said that.

oh wait, you are a australian poster with an historic of delusional posts. ok.

Hahaha, this has got to be your worst trolling attempt ever!! Did you even read what the guy wrote?

 

[c&cfan]

Hahaha, this has got to be your worst trolling attempt ever!! Did you even read what the guy wrote?

not all of it, but enough

 

[c&cfan]

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[Christian]

He won that partly due to a really strong team (I say partly). At the Worlds he won't have a strong team, just Fränk.

Bruyneel is getting them ready for ITT WRR ... don't need a team there ... you heard it here first!

 

[will10]

Frank has an handy sprint. Sure he can't beat Rodriguez-type but he stand a chance against a guy like Evans I think. About Andy, I agree we shouldn't underestimate him. In fact he often rides without much tactical sense but he can pull of great ride (Liege, Galibier,...). He's good enough to win hilly courses on the worlds.

Name one sprint that Frank has won, just one will do.

 

[Christian]

Name one sprint that Frank has won, just one will do.

Those were some cool glasses

 

[El Pistolero]

Those were some cool glasses

That's uphill

And we both know Contador didn't contest the sprint. Not that beating Contador in a sprint is an achievement or something.

 

[c&cfan]

That's uphill

And we both know Contador didn't contest the sprint. Not that beating Contador in a sprint is an achievement or something.

dim n, i as integer
msgbox('insert n')
for i=1:n
if i=1 then sprint counts 'case i want
if not msgbox('random stupid nonsense rant coming')
end if
end
end function

 

[Havetts]

knife, meet havetts' neck.
havetts' neck, meet knife.

dutchies...

You are ridiculous, seriously..

 

[c&cfan]

You are ridiculous, seriously..

maybe i was just kidding...

why so serious?

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Nice Troll meet troll thread

 

[The Hitch]

See what Bruyneel has to say about the Ardennes classics.

http://tinyurl.com/blmrohm

Second paragraph...

I think Hollywood should hire Brunyeel to study what bad guys are really like.

he seems to be a **** for being **** sake. Reminds me of Eric Bishoff only Bruyneel is real.

 

[The Hitch]

See what Bruyneel has to say about the Ardennes classics.

http://tinyurl.com/blmrohm

Second paragraph...

I think Hollywood should hire Brunyeel to study what bad guys are really like.

he seems to be a **** for being **** sake. Reminds me of Eric Bishoff only Bruyneel is real.

Yeah, he won every classic with luck this year!

Lol, just admit you hate Gilbert and leave it at that, you're making a complete fool of your self.

Luck had little to do with Gilbert's victories at hilly classics.

Fact is, Andy only won one decent race in his entire career. Because in case you didn't notice, Gilbert dropped Andy at the Saint Nicholas this year. I bet he was so lucky for Andy to have dropped!

Considering all these guys have much more talent they sure get beaten a lot by him

It's easy to dominate a race if your only serious competitor is Tom Boonen who has had a lot of bad luck past 2 years.

The points you make are all valid until the last one.

Its unfair to mock Cancellara because his opponents in cobbled classics are a different type of rider, but if you want to go down that road then we can point to the fact that dominates the likes of Schleck, Evans, Valverde in his classics, while Gilbert merely scrapes past them by comparison in his.

 

[El Pistolero]

I think Hollywood should hire Brunyeel to study what bad guys are really like.

he seems to be a **** for being **** sake. Reminds me of Eric Bishoff only Bruyneel is real.

I find it rather ironic that one of the best one day racers in the world is riding for a DS who doesn't give a sh*t about classics. I don't understand why Cancellara is so willing to help the Schlecks, what did they ever do for him in a race? Besides making sure he has no team support at all of course

 

[greenedge]

i'm sorry??????????? what???????

since when does contador needs andy for any help against anyone, specially evens?

what a SPOS.
for a moment i believed that you were saying something like conti + evens against andy, or (the one that makes(can) sense) landy+evens against conti... but no, you really said that.

oh wait, you are a australian poster with an historic of delusional posts. ok.

What i said was for next year's TDF
ANDY
needs
CONTADOR
to be at the race for him to win against Evans ( barring crashes ).
Otherwise there is no way in hell Andy will win as his attacks ( stage 18 Galibier this year ) were slowly reeled in by Evans. To win the TDF Evans needs to be cracked otherwise he is capable of pulling off what he did this year ( stage 18 Galibier ). And the only way EVANS CAN BE CRACKED IS FOR CONTADOR TO RIDE THE TDF, and ANDY TO BE ABLE TO GO WITH Contador's ATTACKS.

That then invokes a whole new problem for Andy. HOW TO CRACK CONTADOR???

In my original post i then said either way Andy is screwed ( for his chance to win the TDF ) next year.

I do not think anywhere in my original post i said CONTADOR Needed ANDY.

It is Vice-Versa as Andy needs Contador. The 2 of them will work together in the sense they shall distance the others then attack each other.

On a whole new point, why would Contador feel he has to attack like crazy to gain time on Evans on the Mountains, when he has a great ITT as well ( an out of form Contador finished 3rd at Grenoble ). I'm sure he only has to make a FEW devasting attacks up the mountains to cement his lead.
Maybe for some reason he feels Evans is better than him in the ITT still ( which we do have to consider in 09 Evans was in no form whatsoever ) but even so i'm pretty sure he should be confident of at least matching Evans. I just don't get why he is so nervous but that makes me think the route is suited more to Evans ( if only because Contador believes the ITT km shall work in Evans' favour )

 

[El Pistolero]

I think Hollywood should hire Brunyeel to study what bad guys are really like.

he seems to be a **** for being **** sake. Reminds me of Eric Bishoff only Bruyneel is real.



The points you make are all valid until the last one.

Its unfair to mock Cancellara because his opponents in cobbled classics are a different type of rider, but if you want to go down that road then we can point to the fact that dominates the likes of Schleck, Evans, Valverde in his classics, while Gilbert merely scrapes past them by comparison in his.

My last point was a tongue in cheek because c&cfan always calls Phil's competition weak.

 

[thehog]

One of the Schlecks has to race the '12 Giro to win, for Frank it may be his only chance to win a GT, for Andy it is the GT that suits him best. Both Andy and Frank are more consistent climbers than any of the likely contenders and the lack of ITT km's only works in their favour.

Problem is that we all know that the Hog has an unhealthy obsession with the Tour unless it's the final day and one of his riders is in the leaders jersey

Will Bruyneel risk sacrificing his main Tour contender or his domestique for a "lesser" (in The Hog's eyes) GT win?

The worst part for Shleck is that Contador finished 4th and was booed before the start of the Tour and still managed to win the hearts of everyone. Even when Shleck finished ahead of Alberto still “beat” him.

 

[Angliru]

The worst part for Shleck is that Contador finished 4th and was booed before the start of the Tour and still managed to win the hearts of everyone. Even when Shleck finished ahead of Alberto still “beat” him.

...and of course I just love that this is how it all played out.

 

[Christian]

The worst part for Shleck is that Contador finished 4th and was booed before the start of the Tour and still managed to win the hearts of everyone. Even when Shleck finished ahead of Alberto still “beat” him.

Wait, what? When? Where? How?! So many questions!!!

You mean this guy, right?

 

[Panda Claws]

JVDB should ride the Giro too.