TheSpud said:
To me it seems that if you go against the views of the Clinic 12 (or is that now 11 ...) you are a troll. They present their views as facts (which they may very well be) but they also present their posts as fact.
On many occasions this has not been the case : The Hog saying SKY paid for JTLs defence - never backed up, very recently Benotti's rant about DB expressing regret to Kimmage about being untruthful re: Biarritz and doing a runner. Again - popycock, the Times article Benotti refers to says no such thing. It seems the long term posters believe they can say what they want and should be believed because they are 20,000+ posters ...
Quite a few members seem to have been driven away - the most recent being WrinklyVet. Frankly i don't blame him, around Xmas time I had had enough - constant accusations of sockpuppeting were p1ssing me off despite numerous reports and warnings to people. Unfortunately it seems The Clinic has turned in to a (virtual) room filled with people who show no tolerance to the views of others.
Hurrah for democracy and freedom of thought ...
lol. You throw an accusation at 11 members but then come up with 2 names, benotti and hog, who are generally ostracized by most clinic members anyway. Where's the other 9?
You then try to claim the current state of affairs has driven wrinklyvet off the forum even though wrinklyvet began his posting spree about 3 years after the current state of affairs began. (also, the same week as joachim's previous account got banned while crying that he had loads of sockpuppets in place to replace him though im sure thats a pure coincidence). Hog and sceptic were making the exact same posts 8, 9 months ago. wrinklyvet suddenly starts massposting a few months ago, nothing changes but suddenly he wants to leave? Please.
Also when every single poster to behave wrinklyvets way (turn up out of nowhere, start mass posting but only in sky threads and make the same arguments dozens of accounts before made before arguments were disproved and posters banned) has eventually ended up being banned for sockpupetry it really isn't this great improbability that they are also sockpuppets.
Ps, the last sentence is trolling plain and simple.
Unfortunately it seems The Clinic has turned in to a (virtual) room filled with people who show no tolerance to the views of others.
Its no different to twh trying to say everyone in the clinic thinks everyone in cycling dopes. He knew that wasn't true but was trying to paint the clinic in a bad light, and you are doing the exact same thing. I'll call your bluff. Why don't you leave if everyone in the clinic is intolerant. If I found a forum where I thought everyone was intolerant and wrong I would, just, I don't know, not post there, instead of repeating in thread after thread cries about how unfair it is? In fact thats exactly the reason why I don't post on some of the forums some of the posters here seem desperate to promote. I think their arguments take 2 seconds to disprove and those places are intolerant. I don't cry there, I just don't visit or read them. You could do the same but I'm calling your bluff and I suspect you won't

Precisely because you know this place isn't the intolerant sanctuary you claim it to be.
Of course if everyone in the clinic thought of one mind and was intolerant of all other opinions then there would be dozens of pages on here in the last week of everyone protesting hog's ban. Instead its just one poster - sceptic fighting a lone battle. Also your cry about freedom of thought, and democracy makes no sense. People tending to gravitate to the same opinion on things - like do sky dope, is freedom of thought in action. And artificially raising the % of people who believe niche opinions, certainly wouldn't be "democratic", at least not where i come from.