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Because sometimes even when it's not directed with the deliberate intention of needling me as it was from many corners for a period, and sometimes even when I'm outright avoiding him, the Sagan sycophancy gets too much for me to bear and keep my cool about.infeXio said:
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Wtf? So much hate!!!Libertine Seguros said:Really?Miburo said:Come on, no is doing it anymore? Jesus, guess it's up to me
LS WHERE ARE YOU???? WHY DO YOU HATE SAGAN?
I've literally watched two races he's been involved in this year. Literally. It's apparently never boring to add more sycophancy to the Sagan bandwagon, but it's apparently boring to hear any opinion that isn't gushing in praise, and because I find him so objectionable I can't help myself getting wound up by it, and because I get wound up by it so easily people keep poking the bear, to prevent all of the Sagan Defandboys from throwing a strop at me every time I say anything remotely negative about Slovak Barbosa, I've just taken to avoiding him all out.
Sometimes you just get a sense something is going to happen. At the Ronde I was so angry about Lizzie beating Emma J at the end that I just knew it meant Sagan would win, and I would lose my rag and probably get myself banned. So I didn't watch the Ronde van Vlaanderen. I got that same feeling today. This World Championships has been such a shower of garbage from start to finish that as soon as the riders who made the selection were announced on social media, I just had that sense he was going to win, so I didn't watch, so as not to repeat the Richmond go-around. I don't recant anything I said then, nor do I have any intention of apologizing to any of the people I insulted simply by proxy of liking or defending Sagan. But while "Sagan is amazing", "Sagan is a beast" and "Sagan is the best thing to happen since the invention of the bicycle and a model human being omgyea!" can apparently never be heard enough, I've been told often enough that voicing my contrary opinion is boring, so to stop myself from throwing those same tantrums as I did last year I've been steering clear of him as much as possible. Doha got the World Championships based on vulgar, opulent excess, so he's the perfect winner for them, when you think about it.
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Can we just not do this again.portugal11 said:Wtf? So much hate!!!Libertine Seguros said:Really?Miburo said:Come on, no is doing it anymore? Jesus, guess it's up to me
LS WHERE ARE YOU???? WHY DO YOU HATE SAGAN?
I've literally watched two races he's been involved in this year. Literally. It's apparently never boring to add more sycophancy to the Sagan bandwagon, but it's apparently boring to hear any opinion that isn't gushing in praise, and because I find him so objectionable I can't help myself getting wound up by it, and because I get wound up by it so easily people keep poking the bear, to prevent all of the Sagan Defandboys from throwing a strop at me every time I say anything remotely negative about Slovak Barbosa, I've just taken to avoiding him all out.
Sometimes you just get a sense something is going to happen. At the Ronde I was so angry about Lizzie beating Emma J at the end that I just knew it meant Sagan would win, and I would lose my rag and probably get myself banned. So I didn't watch the Ronde van Vlaanderen. I got that same feeling today. This World Championships has been such a shower of garbage from start to finish that as soon as the riders who made the selection were announced on social media, I just had that sense he was going to win, so I didn't watch, so as not to repeat the Richmond go-around. I don't recant anything I said then, nor do I have any intention of apologizing to any of the people I insulted simply by proxy of liking or defending Sagan. But while "Sagan is amazing", "Sagan is a beast" and "Sagan is the best thing to happen since the invention of the bicycle and a model human being omgyea!" can apparently never be heard enough, I've been told often enough that voicing my contrary opinion is boring, so to stop myself from throwing those same tantrums as I did last year I've been steering clear of him as much as possible. Doha got the World Championships based on vulgar, opulent excess, so he's the perfect winner for them, when you think about it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktsCrJMRp3w
You don't like him, that's cool. If anyone gives you heat just ignore them. BTW, Your Dope Tour team was great.
Libertine Seguros said:Really?Miburo said:Come on, no is doing it anymore? Jesus, guess it's up to me
LS WHERE ARE YOU???? WHY DO YOU HATE SAGAN?
I've literally watched two races he's been involved in this year. Literally. It's apparently never boring to add more sycophancy to the Sagan bandwagon, but it's apparently boring to hear any opinion that isn't gushing in praise, and because I find him so objectionable I can't help myself getting wound up by it, and because I get wound up by it so easily people keep poking the bear, to prevent all of the Sagan Defandboys from throwing a strop at me every time I say anything remotely negative about Slovak Barbosa, I've just taken to avoiding him all out.
Sometimes you just get a sense something is going to happen. At the Ronde I was so angry about Lizzie beating Emma J at the end that I just knew it meant Sagan would win, and I would lose my rag and probably get myself banned. So I didn't watch the Ronde van Vlaanderen. I got that same feeling today. This World Championships has been such a shower of garbage from start to finish that as soon as the riders who made the selection were announced on social media, I just had that sense he was going to win, so I didn't watch, so as not to repeat the Richmond go-around. I don't recant anything I said then, nor do I have any intention of apologizing to any of the people I insulted simply by proxy of liking or defending Sagan. But while "Sagan is amazing", "Sagan is a beast" and "Sagan is the best thing to happen since the invention of the bicycle and a model human being omgyea!" can apparently never be heard enough, I've been told often enough that voicing my contrary opinion is boring, so to stop myself from throwing those same tantrums as I did last year I've been steering clear of him as much as possible. Doha got the World Championships based on vulgar, opulent excess, so he's the perfect winner for them, when you think about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktsCrJMRp3w
You don't like him, that's cool. If anyone gives you heat just ignore them. BTW, Your Dope Tour team was great.
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Two things:
1) Sagan did something inappropriate. He did that once. I don't think he'd be married if he viewed women as objects for his personal enjoyment like you seem to enjoy. You do not get to anoint yourself as moral arbitrator.
2) That's all well and good, but don't kill the fun of others doing it. It's fine if you don't want to watch a race where Sagan is a contender, that's your loss not ours. But please, please, don't come trotting in acting like a race was garbage and that you knew the race would be won three hours before it ended because of some odd circumstances. Personal anecdotes are not science, riders don't win just because people have a certain feeling about a certain situation.
I very much enjoy your comments, and your wealth of knowledge is rivaled by few on this forum, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.
Libertine Seguros said:Really?Miburo said:Come on, no is doing it anymore? Jesus, guess it's up to me
LS WHERE ARE YOU???? WHY DO YOU HATE SAGAN?
I've literally watched two races he's been involved in this year. Literally. It's apparently never boring to add more sycophancy to the Sagan bandwagon, but it's apparently boring to hear any opinion that isn't gushing in praise, and because I find him so objectionable I can't help myself getting wound up by it, and because I get wound up by it so easily people keep poking the bear, to prevent all of the Sagan Defandboys from throwing a strop at me every time I say anything remotely negative about Slovak Barbosa, I've just taken to avoiding him all out.
Sometimes you just get a sense something is going to happen. At the Ronde I was so angry about Lizzie beating Emma J at the end that I just knew it meant Sagan would win, and I would lose my rag and probably get myself banned. So I didn't watch the Ronde van Vlaanderen. I got that same feeling today. This World Championships has been such a shower of garbage from start to finish that as soon as the riders who made the selection were announced on social media, I just had that sense he was going to win, so I didn't watch, so as not to repeat the Richmond go-around. I don't recant anything I said then, nor do I have any intention of apologizing to any of the people I insulted simply by proxy of liking or defending Sagan. But while "Sagan is amazing", "Sagan is a beast" and "Sagan is the best thing to happen since the invention of the bicycle and a model human being omgyea!" can apparently never be heard enough, I've been told often enough that voicing my contrary opinion is boring, so to stop myself from throwing those same tantrums as I did last year I've been steering clear of him as much as possible. Doha got the World Championships based on vulgar, opulent excess, so he's the perfect winner for them, when you think about it.
Two things:
1) Sagan did something inappropriate. He did that once. I don't think he'd be married if he viewed women as objects for his personal enjoyment like you seem to enjoy. You do not get to anoint yourself as moral arbitrator.
2) That's all well and good, but don't kill the fun of others doing it. It's fine if you don't want to watch a race where Sagan is a contender, that's your loss not ours. But please, please, don't come trotting in acting like a race was garbage and that you knew the race would be won three hours before it ended because of some odd circumstances. Personal anecdotes are not science, riders don't win just because people have a certain feeling about a certain situation.
I very much enjoy your comments, and your wealth of knowledge is rivaled by few on this forum, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.
Sagan continues to be under-rated on this forum - Barely a mention of him being a possible winner - Sagan is nearly always in the top 5 in the sprints.
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Would Sagan fanboys still dare to lament that everybody is sucking his wheel after this.
I mean did he ever put his nose in the front before the final 200m. I'm quite serene because this win is worthless anyway. I've always said this, even long before Sagan turned pro. Nothing to feel bitter for Libs or for me. Cycling fans need to realise that this performance is way overrated.
I mean did he ever put his nose in the front before the final 200m. I'm quite serene because this win is worthless anyway. I've always said this, even long before Sagan turned pro. Nothing to feel bitter for Libs or for me. Cycling fans need to realise that this performance is way overrated.
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Cmon, Keukeleire, Naesen and Stuyven don't count. They had pulled for 3 hours straight and were not going to do anything. Greg was the designated guy to attack, but everybody knew it. Same with Terpstra. Both didn't get an inch of space. Good luck dropping other very strong riders on a flat road then when they're glued to your wheel. Besides, Greg wasn't super either.
Then yes, what's left is a sprint for Boonen. Could you share with us a tactic that could have made them win the race?
Btw, haven't seen one critical note about the Italians, yet they also had 3 'fresh' guys for the final.
Red Rick said:
Cmon, Keukeleire, Naesen and Stuyven don't count. They had pulled for 3 hours straight and were not going to do anything. Greg was the designated guy to attack, but everybody knew it. Same with Terpstra. Both didn't get an inch of space. Good luck dropping other very strong riders on a flat road then when they're glued to your wheel. Besides, Greg wasn't super either.
Then yes, what's left is a sprint for Boonen. Could you share with us a tactic that could have made them win the race?
Btw, haven't seen one critical note about the Italians, yet they also had 3 'fresh' guys for the final.
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"And when the Daily Express put it to Cavendish that the Slovakian could be considered his sprinting equal because of his three Green Jerseys, he appeared almost insulted by the suggestion.
"I've always beaten him convincingly. Always," said Cavendish, speaking at an event in London to promote American Pistachios. "He's not a sprinter. He wins the Green Jersey because no one else goes for the intermediate points."
Another amazing result for humanity. What a man Peter Sagan is.
"And when the Daily Express put it to Cavendish that the Slovakian could be considered his sprinting equal because of his three Green Jerseys, he appeared almost insulted by the suggestion.
"I've always beaten him convincingly. Always," said Cavendish, speaking at an event in London to promote American Pistachios. "He's not a sprinter. He wins the Green Jersey because no one else goes for the intermediate points."
Another amazing result for humanity. What a man Peter Sagan is.
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1981 counts if you include riders who would go on to win the world title. Maertens, Saronni (1982 champion) and Hinault. Same with 85 and Moreno Argentin.
Jancouver said:
1981 counts if you include riders who would go on to win the world title. Maertens, Saronni (1982 champion) and Hinault. Same with 85 and Moreno Argentin.
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