Mental or random cycling statistics

[Samu Cuenca]

We know the Giro-Tour double is very rare but am curious after seeing on PCS live today the lowest combined totals of Giro-Tour GC positions since 2005 what the last time any rider completed both Giro and Tour but winning the Tour without winning the Giro beforehand. Maybe not since the 70s?

Michael Rasmussen would/could have done it in 2007.

 

[rallybanana]

When was the last time before today, that each nation competing in an edition of the Tour de France had won a Tour de France stage at some point in their history?

Spoiler

Number of riders per nation in Tour de France 1977

France has the most competitors in Tour de France 1977 with a total of 36. Belgium is runner-up with 36 riders, before Spain with 17 riders.

www.procyclingstats.com

 

[BigCoward]

Greg 1990 I believe

Mig in 94 more recent.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Mig in 94 more recent.

Oh yeah, Berzin on that Russian good s*it

 

[tobydawq]

With the surprise fact revealed a week ago that Pogi and Jonas quite comfortably have been first and second most times in a Tour stage, what is the record for identical podiums?

Today was the third time Pogi won in front of Jonas and Carapaz. Does anyone know of a more frequently occurring top three?

 

[Netserk]

With the surprise fact revealed a week ago that Pogi and Jonas quite comfortably have been first and second most times in a Tour stage, what is the record for identical podiums?

Today was the third time Pogi won in front of Jonas and Carapaz. Does anyone know of a more frequently occurring top three?

No, but Armstrong-Ullrich-Beloki happened three times in 2001.

 

[AmRacer]

With the surprise fact revealed a week ago that Pogi and Jonas quite comfortably have been first and second most times in a Tour stage, what is the record for identical podiums?

Today was the third time Pogi won in front of Jonas and Carapaz. Does anyone know of a more frequently occurring top three?

Jonas and Tadej has been first and second in GC since 2021. That must be a record too.

 

[AmRacer]

3-1-1-2-2-1-1 must be some sort of record too.

 

[Monte Serra]

First time ever a rider wins at least 5 stages in both Giro and Tour during a season.

And Pogačar is currently tied on 11 with Merckx for most stages in both Giro and Tour in a season. Merckx won 3 stages in Giro and 8 in Tour in 1970. If you're nit-picky, Alfreddo Binda won 12 stages in the 1927 Giro, but he didn't ride the Tour that year.

 

[tobydawq]

Jonas and Tadej has been first and second in GC since 2021. That must be a record too.

Yes, definitely. It was already a record to do it three times in a row.

Four times is unprecedented. But let's get them home tomorrow first.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Jonas and Tadej has been first and second in GC since 2021. That must be a record too.

A quick scan shows me that it is. Hinault/Zoetemelk and Armstrong/Ullrich took the top 2 spots three times, but four times is a record, I'm fairly sure.

 

[Valv.Piti]

All mountain stages won by the same rider. 5/5

 

[Monte Serra]

All mountain stages won by the same rider. 5/5

Stage 11 could arguably also be called a mountain stage? It is classified as such on the Tour website:

https://www.letour.fr/en/stage-11

 

[shalgo]

3-1-1-2-2-1-1 must be some sort of record too.

Hinault’s career GT results were: 1-1-1-1-(dnf when in 1st)-1-1-1-1-2-1-1-2

 

[SafeBet]

3-1-1-2-2-1-1 must be some sort of record too.

No rider had podiumed his first 6 GTs. So yeah 7 podiums to start career is unprecedented.

 

[Gigs_98]

I noticed during the Dauphine that the winner of that race has then either gone on to win the Tour or not even finish the Tour in the top 10 since Valverde in 2008. No in between. I thought that this run might come to an end with Roglic narrowly beating Jorgenson, but nope. With Jorgenson likely going to finish in the top 10, Roglic winning the Dauphine has actually extended this statistic for yet another year.

 

[Pantani_lives]

Lucien Van Impe's last stage win in the Tour came later than Sean Kelly's last stage win in the Tour.

 

[Netserk]

With the surprise fact revealed a week ago that Pogi and Jonas quite comfortably have been first and second most times in a Tour stage, what is the record for identical podiums?

Today was the third time Pogi won in front of Jonas and Carapaz. Does anyone know of a more frequently occurring top three?

If Pogi hadn't bottled the sprint against Vingegaard (or they finished on top of Galibier), Pogi-Vingegaard-Evenepoel would have finished in that order 4 times this year. Instead it ended up like in 2001.

 

[RedheadDane]

So, in the 2024 Tour de France we got...

A Slovenian yellow jersey.
An Eritrean green jersey.
An Ecuadorian polka dot jersey.

Not that many years ago that would have been unthinkable.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

So, in the 2024 Tour de France we got...

A Slovenian yellow jersey.
An Eritrean green jersey.
An Ecuadorian polka dot jersey.

Not that many years ago that would have been unthinkable.

And a Belgian white jersey, which is a first (while the white jersey has been awarded to young riders).

 

[RedheadDane]

And a Belgian white jersey, which is a first.

Belgian's been a bit more... present in cycling throughout history.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Belgian's been a bit more... present in cycling throughout history.

Which makes it more incredible that it's the first time it's happened.

 

[RedheadDane]

Which makes it more incredible that it's the first time it's happened.

Isn't the only reason Merckx didn't win it in 1969 that it didn't exist?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Isn't the only reason Merckx didn't win it in 1969 that it didn't exist?

Sure, although he did win the white jersey for the combination classification.

 

[RedheadDane]

Sure, although he did win the white jersey for the combination classification.

He was basically so far ahead of his time he won competition that hadn't even been invented yet!

And there we have the reason Pogacar is not the new Merckx; because Pogacar has never won a jersey that hasn't been invented yet!
Or maybe he has, we just don't know it...