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Wow, thanks for posting a photo of the day where Pogacar had to rely on his sprint to beat Masnada in a 260km hilly classic.

This was after Masnada was pulling the many kilometers on the front for Alaphilippe and remco, who dropped, so Fausto has to do the leadership himself and bridge to Pogacar, who then couldn't drop him

This is a proof that Fausto is the only other rider in the category of van der poel and Vingegard, guys who can potentially beat Pogacar in the biggest races

Thanks for a beautiful photo toby
 
Wow, thanks for posting a photo of the day where Pogacar had to rely on his sprint to beat Masnada in a 260km hilly classic.

This was after Masnada was pulling the many kilometers on the front for Alaphilippe and remco, who dropped, so Fausto has to do the leadership himself and bridge to Pogacar, who then couldn't drop him

This is a proof that Fausto is the only other rider in the category of van der poel and Vingegard, guys who can potentially beat Pogacar in the biggest races

Thanks for a beautiful photo toby

Mhmm
 
Wow, thanks for posting a photo of the day where Pogacar had to rely on his sprint to beat Masnada in a 260km hilly classic.

This was after Masnada was pulling the many kilometers on the front for Alaphilippe and remco, who dropped, so Fausto has to do the leadership himself and bridge to Pogacar, who then couldn't drop him

This is a proof that Fausto is the only other rider in the category of van der poel and Vingegard, guys who can potentially beat Pogacar in the biggest races

Thanks for a beautiful photo toby


On the plus side Masnada has finished ahead of Pogacar 13.4% of the time, downside is he has as many wins as Pogacar has raced professionally.
 


On the plus side Masnada has finished ahead of Pogacar 13.4% of the time, downside is he has as many wins as Pogacar has raced professionally.
That 13.4 % is actually just a random comparison number, Masnada has only been ahead of Pogačar in 5 out of 43 races or 11.6%.
 
And won a stage to boot riding his slow a$$ around France one last time.
First LR to win a stage since Mathieu Hermans in 89 who won the first of only 2 bunch sprints in the 89 Tour, that was on stage 11. Ah the good old days when there wasnt 10million bunch finishes every year.

Speaking of comparisons, in the 89 Tour stage 10 from Cauterets-Superbagneres was 136km and had 4 climbs(including Tourmalet) with 4750 vertical meters. Time cut 12% or roughly 31.40ish.

Stage 20 this year was very similar, 132.8km with 4 climbs and 4748 vertical meters. Time cut 20% or 48.52. Team Astana arrived in 42.03.

No wonder the worst riders are finishing 6hrs+ down when the time-cuts have become a joke.
 
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First LR to win a stage since Mathieu Hermans in 89 who won the first of only 2 bunch sprints in the 89 Tour, that was on stage 11. Ah the good old days when there wasnt 10million bunch finishes every year.

Speaking of comparisons, in the 89 Tour stage 10 from Cauterets-Superbagneres was 136km and had 4 climbs(including Tourmalet) with 4750 vertical meters. Time cut 12% or roughly 31.40ish.

Stage 20 this year was very similar, 132.8km with 4 climbs and 4748 vertical meters. Time cut 20% or 48.52. Team Astana arrived in 42.03.

No wonder the worst riders are finishing 6hrs+ down when the time-cuts have become a joke.
Not the riders fault they take it easy to take advantage of the allotted time limit.
 
Not the riders fault they take it easy to take advantage of the allotted time limit.
Well it was the rideres representative, the CPA who argued for a time extension on at least one of the days. Yet the media and several posters were fawning over how brave Cav was to beat the time-cut each day. The front of the race is faster, but the back-markers are at the same level as their counterparts from 30/40 years ago. Like I have always said, take the modern sprinter and put them back to the 80s or before and they would all be at the level of Van Poppel or Hermans. Whilst other riders have gotten better as cyclists with time, the sprinters just got more opportunities.
 
Well it was the rideres representative, the CPA who argued for a time extension on at least one of the days. Yet the media and several posters were fawning over how brave Cav was to beat the time-cut each day. The front of the race is faster, but the back-markers are at the same level as their counterparts from 30/40 years ago. Like I have always said, take the modern sprinter and put them back to the 80s or before and they would all be at the level of Van Poppel or Hermans. Whilst other riders have gotten better as cyclists with time, the sprinters just got more opportunities.
Do you have a good handle of muscle fibre distribution?

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And more than 0 Tours.

Düsseldorf... :(
Yeah, I mean maybe he would win, but I just wanna turn back the clock and simulate the race with him and see where he'd actually finish and see how delusional we actually were (if at all). No disrespect to the likes of Rigo Urán, Aru and Bardet, but c'mon man. If Froome had raced this year's Tour with 2017 legs, he'd be in 12th, so I think chances would be decent.

But he should have won more Vuelta. Im watching 2004 right now, and Valverde COULD definitely have won that. Its hard to tell how much the crashedsmeant (he actually crashed twice), but fair enough. Heras would prolly have been stronger anyways, but it would definitely have been closer. 2006.. heartbreak. 2008 he was very good, but lost a bunch of time for fun on that one stage, but would always have been difficult against Contador. 2012.. again, losing stupid time early on for fun, was incredibly strong and could easily have somewhat fluked a win in the Purito-Contador battle. Contador was good in Fuente Dé, but Valverde was honestly amazing. 2013 and 2014 there were just stronger riders, but he was there ready to pounce if something happened. With fresher legs, he wins 2015 even though he was kinda shite that race. 2016, fair enough. 2018? Very close again, cracks in the end, and 2019, again very close but no cigar.

Really, with a bit more luck here and there, he has 3.
 
Yeah, I mean maybe he would win, but I just wanna turn back the clock and simulate the race with him and see where he'd actually finish and see how delusional we actually were (if at all). No disrespect to the likes of Rigo Urán, Aru and Bardet, but c'mon man. If Froome had raced this year's Tour with 2017 legs, he'd be in 12th, so I think chances would be decent.

But he should have won more Vuelta. Im watching 2004 right now, and Valverde COULD definitely have won that. Its hard to tell how much the crashedsmeant (he actually crashed twice), but fair enough. Heras would prolly have been stronger anyways, but it would definitely have been closer. 2006.. heartbreak. 2008 he was very good, but lost a bunch of time for fun on that one stage, but would always have been difficult against Contador. 2012.. again, losing stupid time early on for fun, was incredibly strong and could easily have somewhat fluked a win in the Purito-Contador battle. Contador was good in Fuente Dé, but Valverde was honestly amazing. 2013 and 2014 there were just stronger riders, but he was there ready to pounce if something happened. With fresher legs, he wins 2015 even though he was kinda shite that race. 2016, fair enough. 2018? Very close again, cracks in the end, and 2019, again very close but no cigar.

Really, with a bit more luck here and there, he has 3.

I just ran some simulations.

The results show him as the winner of the 2006 and 2017 Tours, the 2004, 2006, 2009, 2012, 2017 and 2018 Vueltas and the 2016 Giro.

Also Rio Olympics and 2003 and 2004 Worlds. And Lombardia 2014.