Miguel Ángel Lopez Discussion Thread

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Quintana never really improved his flat ITT's though. Still about 20/25th place in those

 

[telencefalus]

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Quintana never really improved his flat ITT's though. Still about 20/25th place in those

i made you a foe for this exact reason , last year at la vuelta he was 11 , DO ou know math? in 2015 he was 6 so mede our conclusion

 

[Red Rick]

Ok ride today by MAL. His position is about as bad as Bardet, so there's lots to improve there

 

[Richeypen]

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Quintana never really improved his flat ITT's though. Still about 20/25th place in those

Dont feed the troll!

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Ah he doesn't read my posts anyway (but still reacts). Let's help him reach 10.000 posts by thursday

 

[telencefalus]

i'm not a troll i'm Always respectful of rules , maybe i'm just a bit compulsive , but that is a human flaw

 

[Forever The Best]

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Quintana never really improved his flat ITT's though. Still about 20/25th place in those

He lost 1'16 to Nibali in this years Giro which had a 68 km of ITT in total.
While in 2013 Tour, he lost the same amount to Valverde on the 33 km ITT to Mont Saint Michel and finished 54th.
So, he had a big improvement from 2013 in ITTs.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Also remember his Burgos time trial in 2015, Quintana can definitely ride good time trials, even more or less flat ones late in a GT. Better than Lopez, but he lost A LOT on Mont Saint Michel, so did everyone else tho.

 

[Forever The Best]

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Also remember his Burgos time trial in 2015, Quintana can definitely ride good time trials, even more or less flat ones late in a GT. Better than Lopez, but he lost A LOT on Mont Saint Michel, so did everyone else tho.

Still, he lost 1:16 to Valv and 1:13 to a horrible Contador that day on 33 km. (Nibali is a better time-trialer than Valverde and 2013 Contador) and he lost 1:16 to Nibali over 68 km.

 

[telencefalus]

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Quintana never really improved his flat ITT's though. Still about 20/25th place in those

He lost 1'16 to Nibali in this years Giro which had a 68 km of ITT in total.
While in 2013 Tour, he lost the same amount to Valverde on the 33 km ITT to Mont Saint Michel and finished 54th.
So, he had a big improvement from 2013 in ITTs.

Finally a person that has memory , how could you say that Quintana doesn't improve in tt Numbers don't lie

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Also remember his Burgos time trial in 2015, Quintana can definitely ride good time trials, even more or less flat ones late in a GT. Better than Lopez, but he lost A LOT on Mont Saint Michel, so did everyone else tho.

Still, he lost 1:16 to Valv and 1:13 to a horrible Contador that day on 33 km. (Nibali is a better time-trialer than Valverde and 2013 Contador) and he lost 1:16 to Nibali over 68 km.

A horrible Contador? The same Contador that finished 2nd, almost won the other time trial? Lol. And thats still not much on a pan-flat course in his first real GT.

 

[telencefalus]

Someone could not like ,and i'm not a fan of Quintana but saying that he is not improved the itt is a lie

 

[Forever The Best]

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Also remember his Burgos time trial in 2015, Quintana can definitely ride good time trials, even more or less flat ones late in a GT. Better than Lopez, but he lost A LOT on Mont Saint Michel, so did everyone else tho.

Still, he lost 1:16 to Valv and 1:13 to a horrible Contador that day on 33 km. (Nibali is a better time-trialer than Valverde and 2013 Contador) and he lost 1:16 to Nibali over 68 km.

A horrible Contador? The same Contador that finished 2nd, almost won the other time trial? Lol. And thats still not much on a pan-flat course in his first real GT.

Yes. He couldn't beat Mollema and Valverde, the riders whom he should easily be beating on a 33 km ITT in top form. Also, it wasn't pan-flat. The first part and second part were quite lumpy.

 

[telencefalus]

it was not pan flat but av speed was a terrific 54 km/h

 

[Forever The Best]

It was flat but not that pan-flat. This was complete pan-flat, however:

Or this (don't get fooled by the profile, this is pan-flat) :

 

[telencefalus]

i would like to know the real weight of mal , i know that quintana is 54 -53 kg when he finished gt , and so his time trial are out of this world , would like to compare with MAL i think his weight is a lit bit more maybe 58 kg but no more

 

[telencefalus]

so today he stays with Nibali could result , he won't podium , so the comparison with Quintana as the same age is pretty non sense because every rider is different but Nairo has clearly the edge

 

[Isaak-Gabriel]

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i would like to know the real weight of mal , i know that quintana is 54 -53 kg when he finished gt , and so his time trial are out of this world , would like to compare with MAL i think his weight is a lit bit more maybe 58 kg but no more

MAL is more or less 65kg, so he's 7 or 8 kg heavier than Quintana.

 

[telencefalus]

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i would like to know the real weight of mal , i know that quintana is 54 -53 kg when he finished gt , and so his time trial are out of this world , would like to compare with MAL i think his weight is a lit bit more maybe 58 kg but no more

MAL is more or less 65kg, so he's 7 or 8 kg heavier than Quintana.

that's a lot more if true but i don't think he is more than 60 kg

 

[May0maniac]

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so today he stays with Nibali could result , he won't podium , so the comparison with Quintana as the same age is pretty non sense because every rider is different but Nairo has clearly the edge

The difference is that this is his first gt, who has done so well in his first gt in recent history?

 

[The Barb]

I have a random question for some of the Spanish speakers out there:

My Colombian girlfriend was bemused by Lopez’s post-race interview today. She said he was speaking with a distinctly Spanish accent, totally unlike the rural Boyaca accent he normally has and which he spoke in when interviewed just a few days ago. Did anyone else notice this?

I am conscious that linguists say the faster you pick up an accent in a new country is indicative of how content you feel in that country, but to acquire an accent in a few days seem unusually fast.

 

[Escarabajo]

I am not sure what it means but my wife has that problem and annoys me a little. She hangs around with Mexicans a whole week and She becomes a Mexican speaker all of a sudden. Go figure. Other people hang on to their root accent more than others.

I can say that they probably like it or feel comfortable with it. Or enjoy it somehow. Not sure if it has anything to do with being happy with their culture or not.

 

[telencefalus]

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so today he stays with Nibali could result , he won't podium , so the comparison with Quintana as the same age is pretty non sense because every rider is different but Nairo has clearly the edge

The difference is that this is his first gt, who has done so well in his first gt in recent history?

well this is not his first gt , he dnf last year , and well Nairo in his first gt was a domestique to Valverde

 

[staubsauger]

This is his first real gt, since he more or less crashed out of contention on the first day in 2016,but desperately continued until he had to withdraw. Just like Pantani had to abandon his 1993 Tour of Italy with Tendinitis in his knee and had the 1994 Giro as his first real grand tour. Hence why I called Lopez performance nearly as impressive. [hyperbole]

 

[starlord]

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so today he stays with Nibali could result , he won't podium , so the comparison with Quintana as the same age is pretty non sense because every rider is different but Nairo has clearly the edge

The difference is that this is his first gt, who has done so well in his first gt in recent history?

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