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Mike Anderson Suit Against LA

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Oldnell said:
Thanks for your very sensible comments. Sadly it is not worth wasting your time attempting to provide reason into this forum on the subject of LA. There are at least half a dozen people who for various reasons, some obviously personal, attempt to trash him at every possible opportunity. There are a lot more who must hate excellence because they go to great length using pseudo science, half truths, and outright lies in an attempt to prove all of the best professional cyclists are cheating in some way.

You do realize if all you do is toss insults and not back up any of your claims others here will just think you are a cranky old man yelling at the local kids to get off his lawn.
 
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shawnrohrbach said:
It's a lawyers job to make the defendent, in this case Lance Armstrong, appear this way. In a previous existence, one I am not particularly proud of except for the fact it paid the bills, I was hired as a creative writer to "punch up" personal law suit complaints like this. Where this lawyer might have used one word, like say reprehensible, he uses "The conduct...was also extreme and outrageous because..." and similar over the top expressions. I am no apologist for Mr. Armstrong, but don't read too much into inflamatory language in a lawsuit. Also, I worked for a very welathy family for a decade or so, and the number of personal lawsuits that arose for any number of reasons was amazing. My job as GM was to engage our attorneys and it seemed like I was on the phone with them every week for ten years handling personal lawsuits. You will know what I am talking about when you have money. And having been a victim of extortion myself, I am not going to pass judgment on any of the parties named in that suit. I hope Mr. Anderson is doing well and his family is thriving. I hope the same for Mr. Armstrong.

Who let you in here? Please take your common sense and experience elsewhere!
 
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cromagnon said:
Some pdf file should not convince all and sundry about what LA is really like if you have met him or know him fine, otherwise keep an open mind. He is rich and money can make people crazy, I am not talking about Lance I am talking about people potentially seeing a chance to exploit the situation. Like flies to feces.

"When Anderson drove Armstrong's support car his duties included [...] deflecting traffic and angry motorists". Wow even Lance has to deal with idiots in cars.

Wow the more I read the more awesomely useful Mr Anderson seems to be. I'm down to the bit where he's a pentilingual zoo keeper/ranger bike mechanic. What's next Lance asks him to breed dodos? Dig out a bomb shelter?

LOL not far off "build 10 miles bike trails". Catch a fly with chopsticks please. "I hear those Human Genome Project people are slacking, go over and see what you can do Mike" :D

:D

LA wrote him an email offering him a job working on bikes and "other bull****". So, it's all fair game. Read the fine print, dude!

The bike trails must be where he trained LA cyclocross that enabled him to win the 2003 tour. :D
 
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:D

LA wrote him an email offering him a job working on bikes and "other bull****". So, it's all fair game. Read the fine print, dude!

The bike trails must be where he trained LA cyclocross that enabled him to win the 2003 tour. :D

Hassling and threatening an employee until he collapses from a seizure, just because he found some of your dope.....all class.
 
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Race Radio said:
Hassling and threatening an employee until he collapses from a seizure, just because he found some of your dope.....all class.

Really? Is that what happens now when this type of thing occurs? "Hey boss! Stop dicking with me or I will colapse from a seizure." :D

I've seen many people get threatened/hassled, and reactions have either been to tell the hassler to &*#@ off or they just go work somewhere else. Don't recall stepping over a bunch of hassle induced seizure victims at the office lately.

Hey, but I implied on the other post that in no way would Anderson's lawyer spice up the charges to paint LA in the worst possible light. I'm sure his petition was exactly how it all happened. :rolleyes:
 

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ChrisE said:
I'm sure his petition was exactly how it all happened. :rolleyes:

So I would assume then that Armstrong won his case quite easily with a nice settlement and with an unequivocal apology for having his good name smeared?
 
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ChrisE said:
Really? Is that what happens now when this type of thing occurs? "Hey boss! Stop dicking with me or I will colapse from a seizure." :D

I've seen many people get threatened/hassled, and reactions have either been to tell the hassler to &*#@ off or they just go work somewhere else. Don't recall stepping over a bunch of hassle induced seizure victims at the office lately.

Hey, but I implied on the other post that in no way would Anderson's lawyer spice up the charges to paint LA in the worst possible light. I'm sure his petition was exactly how it all happened. :rolleyes:

Mike did tell Armstrong to back off, but A$$hole Lance of course continued. All class. Once again Armstrong loses and writes a check. Anderson is just another in a long list of friendships broken by Armstrong's psychosis. The only ones left are those whose income depends on the Armstrong gravy train.

Lance does not have friends, he has employees.
 

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Mike did tell Armstrong to back off, but A$$hole Lance of course continued. All class. Once again Armstrong loses and writes a check. Anderson is just another in a long list of friendships broken by Armstrong's psychosis. The only ones left are those whose income depends on the Armstrong gravy train.

Lance does not have friends, he has employees.

Still keeping up the good fight. I appreciate it.

PHARMSTRONG!:eek:
 
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Cobber said:
6 positive EPO tests and a psoitive cortisone test at the 99 tour. EPO tests were not official and had no B sample, cortisone had a retrospective TUE.

EPO tests - http://nyvelocity.com/content/interviews/2009/michael-ashenden

Cortisone TUE - http://www.bicycling.com/articl/1,6610,s1-3-12-8621-1,00.html

Now.. feel free to go and stick your head back in the sand! :p

All I asked was if that was based on evidence thanks for the links I will read. When you keep an open mind both sides attack you :D
 
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Ps: Friday is Livestrong Day.

We should all take a moment in cancer awereness, and reflect on how the 2009 tour was a huge step forward against that evil disease.
 
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mikkemus23 said:
Ps: Friday is Livestrong Day.

We should all take a moment in cancer awereness, and reflect on how the 2009 tour was a huge step forward against that evil disease.

You are right. We should a moment of science to commemorate the fraud Armstrong has achieved and the the gullible groupies that have enabled him.
 
Oldnell said:
Thanks for your very sensible comments. Sadly it is not worth wasting your time attempting to provide reason into this forum on the subject of LA. There are at least half a dozen people who for various reasons, some obviously personal, attempt to trash him at every possible opportunity. There are a lot more who must hate excellence because they go to great length using pseudo science, half truths, and outright lies in an attempt to prove all of the best professional cyclists are cheating in some way.

I was not taking Mr. Armstrong's side on this at all. I have in fact removed my email address from his livestrong organization because there is a wide disparity between his public behavior (like the adolescent trashing he gave Contador AFTER he won the Tour de France) and the message livestrong attempts to send me every time they want more money. However, using a lawsuit filed for wrongful dismissal as "proof" of doping is ridiculous.
 
BTW, I have been fgiving money to The American cancer Society for 45 years starting the week after my aunt died of cancer in our home. If you are sincerely concerned about this disease, this is also an organization with a keen eye on a cure.
 

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shawnrohrbach said:
I was not taking Mr. Armstrong's side on this at all. I have in fact removed my email address from his livestrong organization because there is a wide disparity between his public behavior (like the adolescent trashing he gave Contador AFTER he won the Tour de France) and the message livestrong attempts to send me every time they want more money. However, using a lawsuit filed for wrongful dismissal as "proof" of doping is ridiculous.

Well Oldnell was correct in the very first part of his post when he said you make a sensible comment.

During your 'creative writing' career however would it be correct to say that as much as you may have been encouraged to massage and hype up a particular argument to reinforce or highlight a point that actually making up stories would be frowned upon?
 
cromagnon said:
On the other hand he is building the perfect CV for a future President.

LOL, no. If you know anything about Politics in the USA then you know that Armstrong would be absolutely destroyed by the opposition in ANY kind of political campaign. I can see the adds now:

"Do the people of Texas deserve a fraud who tested positive for EPO six times as Governor?" <cue footage of '99 EPO lab test results>

Press conference questions: "what was the post-dated TUE in '99 about Lance?" "Why did you forsake Mike Anderson Lance?" "Why does Emma O'Reily say you did drugs Lance?" "Why would you leave Sheryl Crow right after she got Cancer Lance, who treats a woman like that?!" "Why would you leave the mother of your two children for a rock star Lance, who treats a woman like that?!"

LOL, I would love for him to run for office, it would be hilarious.
 
Dr. Maserati said:
Well Oldnell was correct in the very first part of his post when he said you make a sensible comment.

During your 'creative writing' career however would it be correct to say that as much as you may have been encouraged to massage and hype up a particular argument to reinforce or highlight a point that actually making up stories would be frowned upon?

Not sure what your question here is, Doctor, but I think in my original posting I admitted as much that being paid to massage legal documents with creative flair is probably not the most noble of professions, and I was trying to get people to not take these legal documents at face value.
 

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Not sure what your question here is, Doctor, but I think in my original posting I admitted as much that being paid to massage legal documents with creative flair is probably not the most noble of professions, and I was trying to get people to not take these legal documents at face value.

Apologies - let me try and clarify.

When I read legal documents - like the one presented here- I take a lot of what is written as exaggeration of events or roles, in much the same way as one can be creative in writing a CV.

My question really was were you expected to include outright lie's when you were writing up legal documents - from discussing this with friends in the legal profession in Europe that would be frowned upon.
However, I am curious to know if that is different in the States.
 
Dr. Maserati said:
My question really was were you expected to include outright lie's when you were writing up legal documents - from discussing this with friends in the legal profession in Europe that would be frowned upon.
However, I am curious to know if that is different in the States.

Hell no, that would be illegal. Embellishment of actual facts and occurences is however par for the course.