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Mikel Landa Discussion Thread

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Ah yeah you guys are right. But I guess the most plausible one is he thought that Roglic was getting dropped and he didn't want to wheel sucking and wasting energy to bridge the gap afterwards. Everybody was in red, so it's hard to think about these stuffs when you're riding hard sometimes.
 
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Landa just wanted to ride his best to the line to keep up on a good placement on GC. There are not hard stages until stage 11 so he doesn't need to save energy, and him being an outside threat can give the team options with attacks.

Who cares about Roglic on a day like today when he was dropped like a stone
Exactly. If it was a stage in the last week, I would understand, but in that case, it's better to stay highly placed in GC.
 
I expected a bit more from Landa on this TDF, unless he's saving himself for the 3rd week. I know he's also aiming for the Vuelta and he'll be the leader there.
He's 75 seconds behind the first non big 4 rider after 25km of ITT being ridden and only two mountain stages. He stayed in the best 8 over Galibier and finished in the main group of riders today. It's the best you could realistically expect at this point.
 
He's 75 seconds behind the first non big 4 rider after 25km of ITT being ridden and only two mountain stages. He stayed in the best 8 over Galibier and finished in the main group of riders today. It's the best you could realistically expect at this point.
Yeah, but I feel like he's missing something and he's not yet at his best. I'm not saying he can follow Pogacar and Vingegaard, but I'm sure he can drop Almeida, Rodriguez & A Yates. We'll see in the 3rd week.
 
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Landa is extremely strong at this TdF. I would not have believed that. He‘s a great domestique to Evenepoel, and himself has a chance to finish the GC in a high place.

Very impressive. He has lots of supporters, and Soudal will be extremely happy about how he rides…
 
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He will be lucky to hold onto fifth with the time trial to come. Seventh is likely. Hope he saves something for the Vuelta.
The time he was fighteen for podium this is the last time Time he did in Marsella, close to Nice and similar parcours. https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-france/2017/stage-20
As you see, 15th and similar time to Roglic. Vingegaard IS as well a climber and see last year what a good ITT did at the end. Becouse was at the end, and It was really hard. And of course he is a better rider than Landa, and better at ITT as well. But Landa was seconds that year at the spanish Championship ITT. And It was flat.
 
Contador did that before sanction...no way to compare. Of course Contador pre saction was better climber despite that small difference at Plateau de Bielle, today they have better bikes.
Also I remember the peloton riding more tactically and not rushing up so fast on the first part of these climbs like we have seen the last few years. Not as full gas as soon and slowing down when your opponent catches and letting the rest get nearer before launching again. Some of the time on these record climbs is due to the tactics employed.
 
Also I remember the peloton riding more tactically and not rushing up so fast on the first part of these climbs like we have seen the last few years. Not as full gas as soon and slowing down when your opponent catches and letting the rest get nearer before launching again. Some of the time on these record climbs is due to the tactics employed.
Of course, to have Jorgesson and Vingegaard working for you full gas since the bottom is the better way to make a record. But of course something must have changed last years in cycling as Pogacar said, becouse that time is really amazing.
 
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Contador did that before sanction...no way to compare. Of course Contador pre saction was better climber despite that small difference at Plateau de Bielle, today they have better bikes.
Contador peaked early. The aggressive attacking that worked so well for him stopped working as well in his 30's plus he had to race against Team Sly in his later years and Froome. Good enough to win Vuelta's and Giro's but not the Tour plus he had a lot more accidents in his 30's.

Landa had a chance to win the 2017 Tour but unfortunately he was riding for Froome, but he looked like the best climber in the race that year.
 
Contador peaked early. The aggressive attacking that worked so well for him stopped working as well in his 30's plus he had to race against Team Sly in his later years and Froome. Good enough to win Vuelta's and Giro's but not the Tour plus he had a lot more accidents in his 30's.

Landa had a chance to win the 2017 Tour but unfortunately he was riding for Froome, but he looked like the best climber in the race that year.
Yes. Rigo could have won if he didnt respect SKY at a crash in Peyresourde in wich just SKY are to blame. I told to a friend of Landa after he was second at ITT spanish championship at Soria, a flat ITT, if he is leader of this Tour becouse Froome crash or something he will win...He laughted at me, but it was like that and I talked about this one month later with Landa.
 
Contador peaked early. The aggressive attacking that worked so well for him stopped working as well in his 30's plus he had to race against Team Sly in his later years and Froome. Good enough to win Vuelta's and Giro's but not the Tour plus he had a lot more accidents in his 30's.

Landa had a chance to win the 2017 Tour but unfortunately he was riding for Froome, but he looked like the best climber in the race that year.
Landa was never going to gain enough time in the mountains to offset the time loss in the ITTs to Froome in 2017. 2nd would be the limit.
 
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Landa was never going to gain enough time in the mountains to offset the time loss in the ITTs to Froome in 2017. 2nd would be the limit.
Yes, but if from the beginining that year SKY would have decided to put Landa as leader (we know no way), or Froome has an small crah form the begining and he is not at his best, but can help, he wpuld have won that Tour. He did a very good Last ITT. In fact, he just lose with the second rider on the podiym Uran, just 25 second on ITT that Tour.

So, I can heard lot of people to say Landa has bever won anything...that he has been a potential Tour winner.

If you meant with Froome, about 1:40...and that is not a big time, if he would habe been leader of a good team
The problem with him is that when he was leader he didnt have good luck or just failed for some reason.

But he has been 2 times 4th and several times top ten, That is really difficult and that showed his higt level.
 
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