Money Laundering & Doping In Italy. Armstrong, Menchov named

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BroDeal said:
So Armstrong is still being trained by a Ferrari.

Lance sitting at home in his undies just surfin' the web looking for cycling coaching."Hey this Swiss company looks good, where is my credit card, honey?". The Ferrari explanation is about a gavel slam from guilty. World at his feet and he seeks out the one dirty dude or his son..? Come on Lanceypants. What did Charmichael not offer?
 
Cimacoppi49 said:
Coyle's book had some interesting insights into the Lanceb-Carmichael-Ferrari love triangle. Who's your Daddy, Lance? :D

I loved during Comeback 2.0 Lance would release those training videos with Carmichael on the motorcycle pacing Lance and encouraging him to ride harder. All the while Lance would go home tap into the secret IT system upload his outputs and speak with Ferrari. In my mind Carmichiel is just as complicit in the fraud as ARmstrong.
 
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thehog said:
I loved during Comeback 2.0 Lance would release those training videos with Carmichael on the motorcycle pacing Lance and encouraging him to ride harder. All the while Lance would go home tap into the secret IT system upload his outputs and speak with Ferrari. In my mind Carmichiel is just as complicit in the fraud as ARmstrong.

Armstrong and Carmichael have not spoken for months. You know things are bad when even Chris Carmichael is trying to distance himself from you
 
Cimacoppi49 said:
Likely this will mean a reduction of Fabiani's duties until there is an indictment. He may still not have all that much to do if the trial judge slaps a gag order on everyone. Fabani is not a top criminal defense lawyer of whom Armstrong has hired a gaggle. With nothing for Fabiani to say or do pending an indictment, it means the real show begins soon. The lull before the storm appears to be now.

So, clean the crystal, select your wine, get comfortable and prepare to uncork.

I'm going camping this weekend. Hope I can still get cell coverage. Wouldn't want to miss the start of the show. Note: When camping, it is preferable to sit back and sip Hennessy when stuff hits the fan.

Too bad we couldn't have a cnf group camping trip...I could imagine sitting around a campfire with some adult drinks...:D
and great conversation.
 
Race Radio said:
Armstrong and Carmichael have not spoken for months. You know things are bad when even Chris Carmichael is trying to distance himself from you

That I did not know. But surely Carmichael knew that he was only pacing him about and setting up business arrangements with Lance. I mean surely CC knew that Ferrari was numero uno?
 
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Poursuivant said:
So why the need to use code names, Dr.?

And the court ordered seizure of $10m, including Menchov's $2.4m, from the company's bank account could not have occurred from an ethical business conducted by Dr. Death?
 
fatandfast said:
Lance sitting at home in his undies just surfin' the web looking for cycling coaching."Hey this Swiss company looks good, where is my credit card, honey?". The Ferrari explanation is about a gavel slam from guilty. World at his feet and he seeks out the one dirty dude or his son..? Come on Lanceypants. What did Charmichael not offer?[/QUOTE]

credible and analytical use of PEDs, it would appear. Carmichael's ability to analyze blood values, prescribe programs and avoid detection weren't up to par as Lance ended up in the hospital and "retired". When he came back and got passed by Big Mig for 3 minutes + in a time trial Lance followed the trail...
 
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mewmewmew13 said:
Too bad we couldn't have a cnf group camping trip...I could imagine sitting around a campfire with some adult drinks...:D
and great conversation.

Umm no. I would not come back alive, especially if all of you pitchfork carriers got liquored up. :D
 
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thehog said:
I loved during Comeback 2.0 Lance would release those training videos with Carmichael on the motorcycle pacing Lance and encouraging him to ride harder. All the while Lance would go home tap into the secret IT system upload his outputs and speak with Ferrari. In my mind Carmichiel is just as complicit in the fraud as ARmstrong.

IIRC, Armstrong has an interest in Carmichael's coaching business.
 
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mewmewmew13 said:
Too bad we couldn't have a cnf group camping trip...I could imagine sitting around a campfire with some adult drinks...:D
and great conversation.

Damn, I could have a lot of fun with Polish camping on a ridge line. Nothing lethal. :D But, lots of fun.
 
Nov 20, 2010
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ChrisE said:
Umm no. I would not come back alive, especially if all of you pitchfork carriers got liquored up. :D

If we did it post-indictment, it could really be a fun time. Food for thought. Who else could we invite?
Frankie and Betsy
Kristin
Floyd
Tyler
Anderson,
Prentis
Greg and Kathy.........


If we did this outside Aspen, Ms. Cache, Cache could cater to the camp.
 
May 3, 2010
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Cimacoppi49 said:
If we did it post-indictment, it could really be a fun time. Food for thought.

Not Thought for Food?

Who else could we invite?
Frankie and Betsy
Kristin
Floyd
Tyler
Anderson,
Prentis
Greg and Kathy.........


If we did this outside Aspen, Ms. Cache, Cache could cater to the camp.

Bassons, Simeoni, Kimmage, Walsh, Swart, Emma O'Reilly
 
"My son Stefano is administering a website which offers personalized training consultancy to various cyclists and triathletes; Lance Armstrong is among them," Ferrari said in the statement.


"I have (been) known for a long time to be at the center of an international investigation moved by several interests, old grudges and 'scores to settle,' and I knew I would be under surveillance and wire tap," Ferrari added.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/story/2011-09-23/lance-armstrong-banned-doctor/50530468/1
 
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Does that mean if implicated the son goes to jail and not Ferrari Sr.?

I wonder where his son gained all his great training skills, I doubt he'd ever ask his dad for advice :rolleyes:

Where there is smoke there's plenty of orange juice. ;)
 
thehog said:
"My son Stefano is administering a website which offers personalized training consultancy to various cyclists and triathletes; Lance Armstrong is among them," Ferrari said in the statement.


"I have (been) known for a long time to be at the center of an international investigation moved by several interests, old grudges and 'scores to settle,' and I knew I would be under surveillance and wire tap," Ferrari added.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/story/2011-09-23/lance-armstrong-banned-doctor/50530468/1
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...-advice.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a16&eref=sihp
 
Jul 14, 2009
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Merckx index said:
This is very interesting. When Ferrari’s daughter is struggling in a triathlon, he gives her an illegal push. When the Italian Feds are circling, he throws his son under the bus.



LOL
all in the family
 
Aug 13, 2009
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Shane Stokes talks to some fat chick about Ferrari

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/9...-that-Armstrong-work-had-no-doping-links.aspx

“I first met Ferrari in 1999 and he had a camper van then,” she told VeloNation today. “It was strange to me that we were meeting the doctor on the side of the road, outside of a big city, in the parking lot of a big hotel where he had the van. Who meets their doctor that way? It was all very peculiar.”

another reason was given to her when she remarked twelve years ago that the use of the camper van didn’t make sense to her. “Lance said then it was ‘so the f**ing media doesn’t find him,’”

“How stupid does he think people are, to say that he wasn’t working with Ferrari, that he was working with his son? How dumb does he think people are?” she said. “Everybody else with common sense knows that it is a front for a reason. The company is set up by Ferrari, and that is where the money will go.

“They are just trying to find any lie they can use, because stupid people will believe stupid lies.”