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Most memorable doped perfomances?

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• Moser breaking the hour record in 1984.

• Lance getting taken-out by a musette bag at the TDF and then winning the stage anyway.

• Cancellara 2010. At least TRY and make it look like you're in pain and struggling. Next time you dominate on dope, ease-up and make it look like a fair fight.
 
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Plus one on the Basso 06 Giro, the comments from Simoni about him being from another planet or something were equally as hilarious.

Second for me is Lance TT'ing up A'lpe D'huez. I mean come on. When he caught Basso, I looked at my buddy (who was in love with Lance and wouldn't hear a bad word about him) and just said "seriously?"
 
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Mapei won Paris-Roubaix several times because they were the best team by far. It was like watching Real Madrid at Wigan.

If I'm recalling right they'd lock up the podium for most of the 'monument' spring classics, then disappear for the rest of the year.

The award needs to be broken into two categories. One-day monuments and stage races. Mapei wins the one-day award.
 
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Lance Armstrong cheating with dope for his dead friend Fabio Casartelli.


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Skandar Akbar said:
Paul Sherwen was an excellent racer in the 70's and 80's and it is easy to sit and throw stones with our doper avatar in anonimity. I think his experise in the sport is beyond reproach and I hope we can put down the hate and at least agree on that.

I was rewatching my 2001 tape of Alp d Huez and his astute commentary added valuable insight into this performance by the most prolific tour rider ever. Paul said that Lance had a special mountain bike with a special fork that day, as well as special gearing. He also touched on the super spinning technique Lance learned from big Mig, though Mig was probably doped to spin like that.

So the special gears and fork and special spinning technique makes the dominance even more special. Even the extra special help of losing 20 pounds added to the dominance. I thought he lost 40 pounds but who is counting. Paul and Phil are the best, and Bob Roll adds insight that you forumites can only hope to understand. It all adds up to something special.


Are you mad? Sherwen is proper old school. His win in the British Pro champs is a contender for this thread!
 
La Flèche Wallonne

The final ascent of the Mur du Huy in the 1994 La Flèche Wallonne was my doping epiphany. Certainly anyone who followed cycling knew about blood doping and other random doping practices that were rumored to be routinely practiced in the peloton, but it was a dark, clandestine, and outlaw activity assumed to be reserved to the fringes of the sport.

Watching Argentin, Furlan, and Berzin ride away from the field on the Mur made you kind of squint and wonder what is up with Gewiss-Ballan. But watching them stay away for 70K and smoke a furiously chasing peloton by over a minute answered any questions you might have had about what an organized team doping program would look like. It was an embarrassingly revealing result, and a comment on the state of the sport that was hard to ignore.

It is interesting to see that so many on this thread have chosen the 2006 TDF stage 17 as their most memorable doped performance. I still find it to be one of the best single days of racing in the history of the Tour. While undoubtedly Floyd was working with fresh new bag of blood, I have no reason to believe that his rivals weren't equally prepared for the day. But his effort, which was impressive, was not really super human.

For me it was the panache of a previous era in cycling. He told his rivals exactly what he was going to do and dared them to follow. After 16 stages of racing in record heat, they bet that he would blowup, and he bet that he wouldn't, although I am sure that he half expected to. It was cycling poker at it's best and a type of racing we don't see enough of anymore.

It can be debated widely as to why that is; some blame race radios, others a different strategy in team tactics. I believe that the science of physiology and training has improved the gene pool, the overall fitness and increased the number of competitive riders and potential winners. I also feel that doping has actually done more to establish parity at the upper echelons of cycling today, than any of us are willing to admit. While this is not meant to be an endorsement of doping in sport, it is a grudging acceptance of the reality of it's existence.
 

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BotanyBay said:
Lance getting taken-out by a musette bag at the TDF and then winning the stage anyway.
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Lance was aided by one of the MOST Potent PEDs of the peloton
Past. Present. or Future.

Lance Adrenaline.

Unfortunately for his opponents, Lance was the ONLY rider to use it.
Proprietary.
KickAssist ®™

No, the playing field was never LEVEL when Lance was on the course.
Especially on the climbs lol.

Here is another memorable doper day:
1949 Giro d’Italia Stage 17, Cuneo-Pinerolo
"Coppi attacks on the Maddalena, the first of five huge mountain passes, to wipe out his deficit overall, claim the pink jersey and put more than 11 minutes into Gino Bartali. It is a trademark of Coppi’s riding style, to pedal away from the rest and keep on going, never letting up, never pausing for thought."

http://www.cyclesportmag.com/features/grand-tour-doubles-fausto-coppi/
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Thinking back now, at the time I thought Stefan Schumacher's two TT wins at the '08 Tour were a bit suss. I was hoping they wouldn't be true, of whichthey were.
 
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Pantani in the final TT in 1998. It was actually set up to be an amazingly close finish with the expected time gap between Pantani and Ulrich roughly equal to the lead on GC.

Then Pantani comes third. And I stopped following cycling properly. Until 2008 really.
 
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Here's another good one. Bruylandts in the Vuelta a Burgos in 2003.

In 2008 I rode the "Tour de la Province de Luxembourg" which Bruylandts was also riding.

It was quite the in joke of the week to announce "Dr. Dave" in a Flemish accent whenever he was nearby. He didn't look too happy about it.
 

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Polish said:
+7

Lance was aided by one of the MOST Potent PEDs of the peloton
Past. Present. or Future.

Lance Adrenaline.

Unfortunately for his opponents, Lance was the ONLY rider to use it.
Proprietary.
KickAssist ®™

No, the playing field was never LEVEL when Lance was on the course.
Especially on the climbs lol.

Here is another memorable doper day:
1949 Giro d’Italia Stage 17, Cuneo-Pinerolo
"Coppi attacks on the Maddalena, the first of five huge mountain passes, to wipe out his deficit overall, claim the pink jersey and put more than 11 minutes into Gino Bartali. It is a trademark of Coppi’s riding style, to pedal away from the rest and keep on going, never letting up, never pausing for thought."

http://www.cyclesportmag.com/features/grand-tour-doubles-fausto-coppi/
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Thank you Polish for the excellent article on Coppi. Definetly the second greatest cyclist of ll time behind Merckx. I am sorry but as we all know doping only began during LeMonds demise as a cyclist.
 
VeloFidelis said:
The final ascent of the Mur du Huy in the 1994 La Flèche Wallonne was my doping epiphany. Certainly anyone who followed cycling knew about blood doping and other random doping practices that were rumored to be routinely practiced in the peloton, but it was a dark, clandestine, and outlaw activity assumed to be reserved to the fringes of the sport.

Watching Argentin, Furlan, and Berzin ride away from the field on the Mur made you kind of squint and wonder what is up with Gewiss-Ballan. But watching them stay away for 70K and smoke a furiously chasing peloton by over a minute answered any questions you might have had about what an organized team doping program would look like. It was an embarrassingly revealing result, and a comment on the state of the sport that was hard to ignore.

It is interesting to see that so many on this thread have chosen the 2006 TDF stage 17 as their most memorable doped performance. I still find it to be one of the best single days of racing in the history of the Tour. While undoubtedly Floyd was working with fresh new bag of blood, I have no reason to believe that his rivals weren't equally prepared for the day. But his effort, which was impressive, was not really super human.

For me it was the panache of a previous era in cycling. He told his rivals exactly what he was going to do and dared them to follow. After 16 stages of racing in record heat, they bet that he would blowup, and he bet that he wouldn't, although I am sure that he half expected to. It was cycling poker at it's best and a type of racing we don't see enough of anymore.

It can be debated widely as to why that is; some blame race radios, others a different strategy in team tactics. I believe that the science of physiology and training has improved the gene pool, the overall fitness and increased the number of competitive riders and potential winners. I also feel that doping has actually done more to establish parity at the upper echelons of cycling today, than any of us are willing to admit. While this is not meant to be an endorsement of doping in sport, it is a grudging acceptance of the reality of it's existence.
Thank you, great post. It was one of the best efforts in cycling i have ever seen when landis won. Yes he was full of dope, but i still believe he had no doping advantage on all the contenders for the win. It was just straight old school cycling, loved it.
 
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craig1985 said:
Thinking back now, at the time I thought Stefan Schumacher's two TT wins at the '08 Tour were a bit suss. I was hoping they wouldn't be true, of whichthey were.

Yes that was hard stuff.
We were a bit ashamed after these 2 TT wins, and than he even started chasing Ricco or do some solos and attack after attack. :D

Everyone knew that he must have good stuff. Ok, he was perhaps a TOP10-15 TTer. But this Cera drug is really amazing, if you saw how most of the caught Cera-riders performed.

Then step after step there came public how dirty this GST team really was and that Holzer is bad actor.
 
I think it was more that in stage 16, over two HC climbs, he went solo straight away and passed Isola 2000 minutes ahead of anyone and sure he was caught by the remainder of the breakaway, but he rode solo almost all the way up the Col de la Bonette too. He still soloed in ahead of the heads of state. Then, the following day in the queen stage, he was off in an attack group of 2 over several major mountains again! Then, two days later, he beats Cancellara over a 50km time trial!

Each one was 'perhaps...'. All three together was 'yea, definitely'.
 
Libertine Seguros said:
I think it was more that in stage 16, over two HC climbs, he went solo straight away and passed Isola 2000 minutes ahead of anyone and sure he was caught by the remainder of the breakaway, but he rode solo almost all the way up the Col de la Bonette too. He still soloed in ahead of the heads of state. Then, the following day in the queen stage, he was off in an attack group of 2 over several major mountains again! Then, two days later, he beats Cancellara over a 50km time trial!

Each one was 'perhaps...'. All three together was 'yea, definitely'.

You missed one, although there are quite a few to remember. Two days after queen stage/alpe d'huez was stage 19 where he was in an early break that got reeled in half-way through the stage. However, he still had enough in the bank to win the tt next day.:)