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Except for the garbage disposal attached to its exhaust pipe it looks quite nice.

How is your Triumph dealer poo? Too pricey, or doesn't have bikes in stock?

What kind of chains do motorcycles take, btw.? Like, do they come in different sizes and styles like chainsaw chains? (Seeing as I'm the proud owner of two chainsaws now I'm learning to tell the difference, I even managed to slice my finger open on one of them while sharpening it. So I'm getting to know the chains quite intimately. :D)
I can guess at one answer and give you answers absolutely about a couple of things.
Motorcycle chains come in different widths and lengths. Also bunch of different quality and performance grades. A common design feature is O- ring designs. The ring keeps debris and dirt from generally penetrating between the links\ mechanism. Most of the time it's a micro tiny rubber ring. For the most part you get what you pay for.
Size matters! You can buy a motorcycle chain too long but trying to extend one is normally a disaster, trying to find additional links for same chain brand is impossible. Also too many master links creates weird stuff. You buy longer length than you need ,use a chain break tool, same as bicycle and connect chain together with a removable link.

Triumph makes some good motorcycles. On and off-road. Build quality is good, designs are nice to look at, performance and price ratios are comparable to majority of motorcycles.
The dealer network, parts support, aftermarket is tiny.. Some countries not at all, massive landmass like North America, probably easier to get a dinner date with Bigfoot than find a British bike business and once you find a Triumph dealership, they know can see, sense that you need them way way more than they need you. Idaho for example.. choice isn't a thing.. If you need parts or service for your bike, dealer knows your options. Are you going West? Will you ever get that angry that you will go to a dealership in Washington, Oregon or Canada? Or go south in search of British bike stuff? Service? If you even can.. Almost always it's no. You have to put up with their dealers prices and processes, attitude. When people try to use what is considered "exotic" bike brands like British, Chinese, Italian, Austrian.. Cross your fingers.. even in the US if you need parts or service.. Good luck..
Sounds like the setup to a good motorcycle joke.. Guy breaks down in rural Arkansas or Alabama and starts asking around where the Triumph or Ducati dealership is..
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Unchained nailed the answer to why the T dealer here is poo. They think that we should worship and praise them. I'm still waiting for a call back from May...of 2024. The guy who owns the HD and Indian dealerships owns the T dealership too.
 
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Skills....

In Southern California ,which is a big, if not the biggest motorcycle market in the US, competition gets less and less each year.
Ride Now and Del Amo have a dozen dealerships.. Del Amo has 6 in SoCal. If you read or watch social media thousands of hours of complaining about vehicle and motorcycle dealership disasters. Tons of stuff about sales prices that are difficult to impossible for regular people.
Average car payment is @$745 per month.
The reason that is important to motorcycles is most lenders don't consider motorcycles to be primary transportation. Motorcycle loans typically have higher interest rates. So motorcycle dealers, like it or not have a, blood in the water relationship with customers as a rule. The 2 dealers I mentioned do some things I object to, they advertise a price but will not accept cash, the low price is only if you finance the motorcycle for 48 months or more with their lender. It's misleading in my opinion.
It would not surprise me if @10-20% of all motorcycle dealers in the US to go out of business in next few years.
It looks that bad or worse for bicycle shops.
 
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In Southern California ,which is a big, if not the biggest motorcycle market in the US, competition gets less and less each year.
Ride Now and Del Amo have a dozen dealerships.. Del Amo has 6 in SoCal. If you read or watch social media thousands of hours of complaining about vehicle and motorcycle dealership disasters. Tons of stuff about sales prices that are difficult to impossible for regular people.
Average car payment is @$745 per month.
The reason that is important to motorcycles is most lenders don't consider motorcycles to be primary transportation. Motorcycle loans typically have higher interest rates. So motorcycle dealers, like it or not have a, blood in the water relationship with customers as a rule. The 2 dealers I mentioned do some things I object to, they advertise a price but will not accept cash, the low price is only if you finance the motorcycle for 48 months or more with their lender. It's misleading in my opinion.
It would not surprise me if @10-20% of all motorcycle dealers in the US to go out of business in next few years.
It looks that bad or worse for bicycle shops.
When I was in a hurry auto shopping in July (car got totaled, roadtrip to mom's in 15 days...), most of the car dealers had the same thing: $3 or 4K less if you finance through them/their parent co.
 
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As we have discussed, I have a KLX250 which is in this category. Super fun versatile bike.
It's certainly my opinion, regular bicycle riding, racing, mountain bike riding are excellent cross training, cross connection with small displacement motorcycles.. There are a bunch of @200-300cc motorcycles that are budget friendly and bulletproof as far as maintenance, performance..
If you keep tires in good condition all you need is oil and gas for years of enjoyment.
Neighbor bought a used Sherpa..I think it's a 220 or 230. Super simple, reliable.. Got it used with very, very few miles.. Think the bike is 3,4 years old with @3000 on it.
I found that with bicycles and motorcycles there still is that " owned by a little old lady " story. In California and Arizona you can find motorcycles and bicycles owned by military members, they buy on impulse and don't use them, lose interest, move on to different hobby. Some people have reservations about buying used stuff, I have had great luck.