Motor doping thread

[King Boonen]

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Oh good grief. I'm all for brainstorming but no, there are no exoskeletons.

That’s just what someone who was in on the exoskeleton doping would say...

 

[JosephK]

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Oh good grief. I'm all for brainstorming but no, there are no exoskeletons.

I think Marmot is having a good laugh leveraging the willingness of Clinic denizens to believe in the possibility of the outlandish. I know I enjoyed it.

 

[Ripper]

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Oh good grief. I'm all for brainstorming but no, there are no exoskeletons.

I think Marmot is having a good laugh leveraging the willingness of Clinic denizens to believe in the possibility of the outlandish. I know I enjoyed it.

Let's hope.

 

[Ripper]

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Oh good grief. I'm all for brainstorming but no, there are no exoskeletons.

That’s just what someone who was in on the exoskeleton doping would say...

I'm not saying anything about engines that could be propelling me into breakaways in my imagination.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Alberto testing Froome's bike for TDF

 

[Merckx index]

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Oh good grief. I'm all for brainstorming but no, there are no exoskeletons.

According to Benotti there are. He described Froome as a "stick insect". Insects have exoskeletons.

QED.

 

[Alpe73]

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I think Marmot might be onto something.

But rather than a mechanical exoskeleton, I think we might be talking a subcutaneous system, with a process driven by contraction and relaxation. The power circuitry could then be based elsewhere in the body, in the chest region, for example. And rather than needing recharging electrically, it could be replenished with organic matter. A further advantage is that this could be created from carbon based components, and therefore indetectable by the UCI scanning equipment.

Yep: I reckon they might all be using something like this.

Hmmmm .... interesting.

Any chance that Ice-9 is involved?

 

[jmdirt]

Let's get this thread revved up for the TdF: Someone is going to see a wheel spinning on the roof of a team car and post it as proof that the magic motor exists... :surprised: :lol:

 

[adamfo]

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Lapartient knows that the roof will fall in if a top rider is proven to be using a motor. Circ was 2013 and was quite clear that motors were in use.

The technology is all there if they wanted to catch some riders. Years ago Stade Two had a motorbike with IR camera. A glowing bottom 4” of seat tube – how the hell can anyone explain that – a hot drink stored in a secret extra water bottle location ? How easy would it have been to have a couple of motorbikes following Friday's stage and showing live IR footage from the bikes ? A few static IR cameras at key locations on hiarpins where the lead riders go round in near single file. It is dead easy. The fact that it is so easy and yet we had years of obfuscation with IPads that didn't work and all sorts of BS, as every little pathetic increment of detection technology was telegraphed months in advance so teams could react, tells us very clearly. The authorities know about the problem, they have the means to solve it but cannot solve it.

Why can't they solve it ? That is the critical question. It just has to be because some in authority are so compromised, to do so would bring the whole show to an end and that is not in anyone’s interest.

Nonsense. IR guns on motorbikes, from cars and at the side of the road have all been seen operational on 3 week races before. Nothing was found hence we have moved back to the x-ray tent which was used a few years ago too. Nothing has ever been found on a grand tour by any method including pulling the bottom bracket, looking down the seat tube and checking the rear hub and rim.

 

[StyrbjornSterki]

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... Years ago Stade Two had a motorbike with IR camera. A glowing bottom 4” of seat tube – how the hell can anyone explain that – a hot drink stored in a secret extra water bottle location ? ...

A faulty bb. All the bikes now are sub-6.8kg and they drop tungsten ballast weights down the seat tube to make spec weight. The metal ballast weights rest on top of warm-ish bb and readily transmit heat up the seat tube.

 

[Dragontearz]

https://twitter.com/bjmackay638/status/1018148124643217408

 

[macbindle]

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https://twitter.com/bjmackay638/status/1018148124643217408

He might have just spun the cranks to put bike in lower gear for restart

 

[hazaran]

Thats some wimpy motor given it didn't move at all after he put the back down..

 

[thehog]

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Thats some wimpy motor given it didn't move at all after he put the back down..

Noted the same. If it was a motor the bike would have moved forward when the wheel hit he ground. This one is fake news.

 

[Giusepperides]

Not sure if anyone has seen the Tom Skujins crash today on stage 9 of TDF. He gets up turns his bike around and the wheel is spinning like a bat out of hell...
Looking for a video of this.....suspect?
Hey Marmot!

 

[Giusepperides]

At 21:54 into the LA podcast you can watch this over and over....no way a wheel spins that fast from moving the cranks to get the chain back onhttps://

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhKqP-JuJ_E

 

[lartiste]

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https://twitter.com/bjmackay638/status/1018148124643217408

He might have just spun the cranks to put bike in lower gear for restart

Please watch it carefully:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BlQ1c3hF64w/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1n8d8ntrmmy54

you can clearly see, that the cranks moves just about 1/4 of the circle, not more, it is not explanation, he clearly did not move the cranks to shift ....

 

[clydesdale]

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https://twitter.com/bjmackay638/status/1018148124643217408

He might have just spun the cranks to put bike in lower gear for restart

Please watch it carefully:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BlQ1c3hF64w/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1n8d8ntrmmy54

you can clearly see, that the cranks moves just about 1/4 of the circle, not more, it is not explanation, he clearly did not move the cranks to shift ....

There had to have been force applied to the pedals for the crank to continue to spin like that. He clearly was either putting his chain back on or changing gears before the video starts.

This is a big nothing.

 

[Bolder]

^^how can you deduce anything from that? It's more than likely he lifted the seat. spun the cranks with his foot/hand first to get it into gear. I've done that when I've crashed or had to start again on a steep hill.

 

[wouterkaas]

I saw this on television and the first thing I thought was: "The Clinic must be going crazy by now already" :lol:

 

[samhocking]

Unless you can see what the video misses, pure guess. I would assume he spun up the cassette after wheel change in the usual way and just carried the bike around.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Put his chain back on and spun the crank with his hand

Video from another angle
https://twitter.com/TomEnthoven/status/1018751837766340608

 

[fmk_RoI]

If we're going to believe in conspiracy theories, then let's play with this one: videos like this Toms Skujiņš one seem to be promoted in order to discredit the belief that motors are in use, or have ever been in use. What's LA doing in his spodcast? Is he just throwing shade at Trek, for whom Skujiņš rides? Or is he also throwing shade at those who say he used a motor?

 

[Escarabajo]

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Thats some wimpy motor given it didn't move at all after he put the back down..

Noted the same. If it was a motor the bike would have moved forward when the wheel hit he ground. This one is fake news.

It is still hard to believe it can move that way. What is the explanation?

 

[HelmutRoole]

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Thats some wimpy motor given it didn't move at all after he put the back down..

Noted the same. If it was a motor the bike would have moved forward when the wheel hit he ground. This one is fake news.

It is still hard to believe it can move that way. What is the explanation?

He hand cranked his chain onto the ring, swings the bike to the pavement, wheel still spinning and drops it. Pretty common.