No, they obviously were not equal in that moment in that race. But sometimes Boonen was better. That's why it's a rivalry.
Overall I am sure you are right but not every day they raced each other. Everyone has good and bad days. If any rider could do a seated attack like that it was Fabian Cancellara. There are also the race dynamics. Do we know how much work Boonan did that race prior to that moment? Boonan was grimacing before the attack - he seemed on his limit and had nothing left to respond with.
Those motors and the actual technology are not the same we find in the bike shops for custom bikes and even racebikes for the public. Several scientists in electrotechnology confirmed it's not about classic electro motors anymore. The technology has changed. Also given the fact that actual technology can't be detected by classic scans.
UCI x-rays the bikes in the grand tours, at the end of stage. Around 10 bikes (2018 info it might be more now) always the winner and usually the leading athlete's bike.
Im sure other riders in the grupetto of tour of Alberta had a great insight into cancellara's dopping programme
Yeah it takes great skill and strength, which Boonen had on that climb.
"I didn't listen to the entire thing, but I know it's implausible." You really missed some interesting information that isn't sensatioalized at all, and absolutely shows it is not only possible, but the technology already exists in a far more refined manner than you understand. You do you...can't imagine that a pro would deny motors...I mean, Armstrong denied doping, so we know that didn't happen.Apologies for the length of this post. Listened to the first video. It seems a little sensationalized by the young narrator ["training wheels when Armstrong won his first tour"] obviously to increase the impact but the main evidence seems Femke Van den Driessche in 2016. But its good he says this could destroy the sport - he is right.
As far as Visma are concerned, can we look at more recent evidence than WvA's CX bikes in 2016? At the 2023 Tour I found the UCI conducted 837 tests before Tour de France stages and 160 at the end of stages, none of which showed a rider using a bike with a hidden motor.
UCI carried out 997 checks for motor doping at 2023 Tour de France
Then I also found this story posted before the 2024 Tour:
Professional cyclist says motor doping "impossible" at top level, reacts to "crazy story" from French race as cycling film actor denies cheating at amateur event - Cycling News | Bike Reviews | road.cc
A professional cyclist who gives their views on the sport to Belgian news outlet Sporza anonymously as the “spy in the peloton” has suggested it would be “impossible” for a top-level rider to motor dope and not get caught.The return to the spotlight for the very 21st century form of cheating...road.cc
Lots of nice quotes in this story, such as this one from the anonymous pro mentioned ...
Below is Cancellara's attack on the Koppenberg in RVV 2010. Its not a long effort - less than 2 minutes which is anaerobic. We know Cancellara was a monster who could produce huge watts for shortish durations. Boonan can be seen grimacing before the attack so was already at his limits so I am not as convinced as you seem to be:
Fabian Cancellara attack 2010 Ronde van Vlaanderen
So I remain unswayed. I will believe there is substance to motor doping in the peloton when it is a major story to dwarf that when Armstrong was busted. There needs to be a lot more than Cancellara and an obscure Belgian CX woman who was caught and banned in 2016.
I think it was interesting that pro chose to be anonymous - unlike Armstrong of course. In any case, I only provided that quote for you. It hasn't changed my mind. I'll listen to the other videos when I get time but so far remain unswayed.
Wout wasn't even riding for Visma/Jumbo in his 2016 campaign. He joined the team in 2019.
Yeah, I know...but if he was using motors, the motors might have moved with him...you know, because criminals are known to continue being criminals.
They aren't videos...it's a podcast...so you didn't even listen to the first one...quelle surprise. "I didn't listen to what I said I watched, that wasn't something I could watch, because I didn't want to hear anything that would change my already decided opinion."
Actually I did listen to the first one. When I have time to listen to the second long podcast I’ll give you my thoughts.
These methods have been shown to be ineffective, if you dig more. The UCI walks up with an iPad and claim that the technology can detect a motor...I mean, this is from 2017...and we know for sure that the UCI has always been ahead of the cheaters, in terms of detection...
https://road.cc/content/news/228768-uci-tests-cant-detect-some-hidden-motors-claims-report#:~:text=Tests conducted by world cycling's,according to a media investigation. It's an iPad that uses an app that uses the iPad's compass to detect things. Watch this [[deleted content]]. Their technology is bunk.Why don't they pull the cranks? I mean, I can buy an iPad and do the same thing...I wonder if the teams can afford an iPad in order to find ways to thwart this stunningly advanced technology. <I always forget to put a question mark with a rhetorical question.
They do have a habit of not actually doing that, though.
Pretty sure they always do it for the stage winners - or is that only grand tours? Happy to be wrong.
Haven't read or watched anything to support that. Might have missed it
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